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(NJ.com)   TSA guard who was responsible for the Newark airport security snafu described as a "model employee." Which pretty succinctly defines the problem   ( nj.com) divider line
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2010-01-08 09:46:59 PM  
Granted, this was the exit, but a TSA employee leaving their post in most cases leaves the public no worse off than before.
 
2010-01-08 10:13:19 PM  
This proves the police can't even catch a cold.
 
2010-01-08 10:15:42 PM  
The concept that this event strikes fear into the hearts of Americans is rather disconcerting.
 
2010-01-08 10:16:46 PM  
"Newark airport"


There is your problem.
 
2010-01-08 10:17:00 PM  
Sometimes there's a greeter at the entrance of a store like Walmart.
Sometimes he's not there but you get over it somehow.
 
2010-01-08 10:19:48 PM  
Whoa. Dumbass.

I'd like to see the union get him out of this pickle.

Even if he was "called away" nothing short of an impending plane landing at that exact spot should make you leave an access point open.
 
2010-01-08 10:19:49 PM  
Over in zero.
 
2010-01-08 10:20:31 PM  
Oh great. Another TSA flame-a-palooza.

/yawn
 
2010-01-08 10:21:03 PM  
"Excuse me, there's a problem over there."
[Points to a spot where the guard will be unable to see the exit.]

"OK, I'll come check it out."
[Guard hops off his chair, follows man to the "problem.]

"Quick! Now's our chance!"
[Cohorts quickly pass 17 kilos of Tovax through unwatched exit, vanish into crowd.]

"I guess they left."
[Guard sits back on chair, resumes watching people leave the airport.]

Nah, no problem at all.
 
2010-01-08 10:21:26 PM  
Weird, I was watching the video hoping to pick out who the guy was on the first time through and I spotted him while he was still at the other end of the camera's field of view before he even made his pass into the restricted area.

How hard it to spot someone that suspicious?
 
2010-01-08 10:24:13 PM  

Philip J. Fry: How hard it to spot someone that suspicious?


Yeah but luckily he was caught on the security camera. Ok they have no idea who he was or where he is but still, caught red-handed by the camera.
 
2010-01-08 10:24:22 PM  
TSA must die.

Too expensive.
Too ineffective.
8 years of bullchit for nothing and it gets ramped up when the failboat docks.
Too stupid.

for sweet dreams, what will response be when the next profile posterchild shows up w/ his bomb in his rectum?
 
2010-01-08 10:26:13 PM  

Indolent: Oh great. Another TSA flame-a-palooza.

/yawn


Yeah, I second this. I don't think I feel like playing right now.
 
2010-01-08 10:30:29 PM  

tonguedepressor: Indolent: Oh great. Another TSA flame-a-palooza.

/yawn

Yeah, I second this. I don't think I feel like playing right now.


You just did.
 
2010-01-08 10:32:26 PM  

tonguedepressor: Whoa. Dumbass.

I'd like to see the union get him out of this pickle.

Even if he was "called away" nothing short of an impending plane landing at that exact spot should make you leave an access point open.


They do not have a union, yet.
The old baggage handlers had a union(s) and in some airports prevented TSA from taking over.
TSA does not provide screening at all airports. There are a few independants still, but I am not sure enough of which ones to stick my neck out. They have to comply to TSA rules/procedures.
I believe LAX is still private, not TSA.
 
2010-01-08 10:32:37 PM  

snocone:

for sweet dreams, what will response be when the next profile posterchild shows up w/ his bomb in his rectum?


that would the mother of all "the terrorists have already won" events
 
2010-01-08 10:32:42 PM  
Damn TSA, always letting explosives through and measuring my penis
 
2010-01-08 10:34:25 PM  
riding the OSIS wave. backscatter scanner maker. love the hype.
 
2010-01-08 10:40:34 PM  

dumbgai: snocone:

for sweet dreams, what will response be when the next profile posterchild shows up w/ his bomb in his rectum?

that would the mother of all "the terrorists have already won" events


If we are going to live with bullchit like TSA, they have won
 
2010-01-08 10:41:20 PM  
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Gentlemen, congratulations. You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training.
 
2010-01-08 10:41:50 PM  
So he's being represented by a union he's not even a member of, and somehow they know how good of an employee he is.
 
2010-01-08 10:42:22 PM  
Our National reaction to this whole zomg teh tearwerists thing is like slapping a lock on a door and ignoring the exposed screw heads on the hasp.
/b b but it's a slaymaker lock. it can take a 30 ought 6 at point blank.
//yeah, well who made those hinges?
///bush, the bastard.
 
2010-01-08 10:49:32 PM  

justoneznot: So he's being represented by a union he's not even a member of, and somehow they know how good of an employee he is.


If he's in our union, he's a GOOD EMPLOYEE, damn it!
 
2010-01-08 10:51:11 PM  
Of course the union has got to defend him. That's what unions are all about! Workers versus management. Nothing that our members do could ever be wrong.
 
2010-01-08 10:53:51 PM  
HOLY CRAP! The airport, the TSA and the government need to flip out because that guy blew up the Starbucks in the terminal and burned down the gates!!

Oh, wait, he didn't. In fact he clearly just left arm-in-arm with a lady.

SOUND THE ALARMS!!!!!
 
2010-01-08 10:58:54 PM  

stiletto_the_wise: HOLY CRAP! The airport, the TSA and the government need to flip out because that guy blew up the Starbucks in the terminal and burned down the gates!!

Oh, wait, he didn't. In fact he clearly just left arm-in-arm with a lady.

SOUND THE ALARMS!!!!!


If he'd blown up the Starbucks, there would have been no need to panic. The guy would have been a national hero.
 
2010-01-08 11:00:27 PM  

stiletto_the_wise: HOLY CRAP! The airport, the TSA and the government need to flip out because that guy blew up the Starbucks in the terminal and burned down the gates!!

Oh, wait, he didn't. In fact he clearly just left arm-in-arm with a lady.

SOUND THE ALARMS!!!!!


No chit eh?

I like the Israeli option: talk with passengers; search the nervous ones. Dammit though. I hate agreeing with Israelis.
 
2010-01-08 11:04:13 PM  

snocone: tonguedepressor: Whoa. Dumbass.

I'd like to see the union get him out of this pickle.

Even if he was "called away" nothing short of an impending plane landing at that exact spot should make you leave an access point open.

They do not have a union, yet.
The old baggage handlers had a union(s) and in some airports prevented TSA from taking over.
TSA does not provide screening at all airports. There are a few independants still, but I am not sure enough of which ones to stick my neck out. They have to comply to TSA rules/procedures.
I believe LAX is still private, not TSA.


SFO is private the Private screeners have a better record of catching stuff than the government morons.
 
2010-01-08 11:08:30 PM  
What happened to the couple who snuck through? Hopefully they're roasting slowly over hot coals somewhere, too.
 
2010-01-08 11:12:16 PM  

whatshisname: What happened to the couple who snuck through? Hopefully they're roasting slowly over hot coals somewhere, too.


Meh, the guy did nothing wrong AFAIK. Not his fault the airport farked up. At least it wasn't a terrorist.
 
2010-01-08 11:13:02 PM  
ScottHimself: "The concept that this event strikes fear into the hearts of Americans is rather disconcerting."

Yes, people were terrified. But they were terrified of being stuck in New Jersey, not of turrists.
 
2010-01-08 11:14:07 PM  

tbyte: Meh, the guy did nothing wrong AFAIK. Not his fault the airport farked up.


Anybody with two brain cells knows you aren't supposed to go through a door that is VERY CLEARLY marked "Exit Only", which I'm quite sure this door is.
 
2010-01-08 11:16:02 PM  
A man caught with his pants down while another man enters through the exit= The sum of all American fear.
 
2010-01-08 11:16:59 PM  

AntiNorm: tbyte: Meh, the guy did nothing wrong AFAIK. Not his fault the airport farked up.

Anybody with two brain cells knows you aren't supposed to go through a door that is VERY CLEARLY marked "Exit Only", which I'm quite sure this door is.


Sure he didn't mind the sign, but it doesn't make him worthy of roasting over coals; he didn't hurt anyone. Do you follow every sign you see every day?
 
2010-01-08 11:17:03 PM  

snocone: tonguedepressor: Whoa. Dumbass.

I'd like to see the union get him out of this pickle.

Even if he was "called away" nothing short of an impending plane landing at that exact spot should make you leave an access point open.

They do not have a union, yet.
The old baggage handlers had a union(s) and in some airports prevented TSA from taking over.
TSA does not provide screening at all airports. There are a few independants still, but I am not sure enough of which ones to stick my neck out. They have to comply to TSA rules/procedures.
I believe LAX is still private, not TSA.


The first line of TFA: "A guard whose failure to see a man bypass security at the Newark airport led to major delays and harsh criticism of the Transportation Security Administration was described today by the union representing him as a "model employee."

Emphasis mine.
 
2010-01-08 11:22:13 PM  
The ridiculous thing is, there is really no meaningful security in any airport in the country. Hell, most of them can't prevent simple attacks let alone sophisticated, planned ones.

I could to into an airport tomorrow with a gatorade jug full of fertilizer and diesel fuel in a backpack, set it down in the middle of that long, snaking line of 100-200 people waiting for Delta's kiosks and walk away. The line of vulnerable people packed tightly together is about 10 meters from the front door!

The reason these attacks don't happen is not because the "beefed up" security procedures or "tireless" government bureaucrats. It's simply that most people are basically good, and don't feel the need to become mass murderers.
 
2010-01-08 11:23:18 PM  
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What a model office may look like
 
2010-01-08 11:29:27 PM  

prgrmr: What a model office may look like


Or this even:


img.photobucket.com
 
2010-01-08 11:31:28 PM  
e old baggage handlers had a union(s) and in some airports prevented TSA from taking over.
TSA does not provide screening at all airports. There are a few independants still, but I am not sure enough of which ones to stick my neck out. They have to comply to TSA rules/procedures.
I believe LAX is still private, not TSA.

SFO is private the Private screeners have a better record of catching stuff than the government morons.


Rochester, NY also has private screeners.
 
2010-01-08 11:32:57 PM  

Philip J. Fry: Weird, I was watching the video hoping to pick out who the guy was on the first time through and I spotted him while he was still at the other end of the camera's field of view before he even made his pass into the restricted area.

How hard it to spot someone that suspicious?


You've obviously never dealt with the finest minds Newark has to offer.
 
2010-01-08 11:36:36 PM  

gorgor: Sometimes there's a greeter at the entrance of a store like Walmart.
Sometimes he's not there but you get over it somehow.


and some days that greeter is at his other job protecting you from terrorists.
 
2010-01-08 11:36:43 PM  

tbyte: AntiNorm: tbyte: Meh, the guy did nothing wrong AFAIK. Not his fault the airport farked up.

Anybody with two brain cells knows you aren't supposed to go through a door that is VERY CLEARLY marked "Exit Only", which I'm quite sure this door is.

Sure he didn't mind the sign, but it doesn't make him worthy of roasting over coals; he didn't hurt anyone. Do you follow every sign you see every day?


Given what's going on in airports these days, sneaking through an exit when you've been told not to is about as intelligent as joking that you have a bomb in your suitcase.
 
2010-01-08 11:37:48 PM  

rhiannon: prgrmr: What a model office may look like

Or this even:


Yeah... ...sometimes I don't have enough of an attention span to finish typing a word completely. It's sad reall
 
2010-01-08 11:38:50 PM  

whatshisname: tbyte: AntiNorm: tbyte: Meh, the guy did nothing wrong AFAIK. Not his fault the airport farked up.

Anybody with two brain cells knows you aren't supposed to go through a door that is VERY CLEARLY marked "Exit Only", which I'm quite sure this door is.

Sure he didn't mind the sign, but it doesn't make him worthy of roasting over coals; he didn't hurt anyone. Do you follow every sign you see every day?

Given what's going on in airports these days, sneaking through an exit when you've been told not to is about as intelligent as joking that you have a bomb in your suitcase.


Perhaps, but apparently security has even less intelligence than that.
 
2010-01-08 11:42:54 PM  
sseye: gorgor: Sometimes there's a greeter at the entrance of a store like Walmart.
Sometimes he's not there but you get over it somehow.

and some days that greeter is at his other job protecting you from terrorists.


Old people are crafty.
They might cake frost you with their colostomy bag.
 
2010-01-08 11:49:57 PM  
The TSA is just trying to make air travel unpleasant enough that we whole-heartedly accept that teleportation travel method where they make a copy of the traveler at the destination and kill the original.
 
2010-01-08 11:59:07 PM  
All that's keeping our skies safe is a rope barrier and a roving guard?

Give me a farking BREAK!
 
2010-01-09 12:12:19 AM  
Have bomb sniffing dogs walking the lines in the airports and various other bomb detection devices.

That's. All. You. Need.

Even metal detectors are pointless. Want to know what the best defense against terrorism is on a plane with 250 people? The 249 people who aren't planning on farking hijacking it!!! As long as the idiot planning jihad or whatever doesn't have a bomb, I GUARANTEE he/she doesn't get very far with their plans when 249 people who don't want to die realize what's going down.
 
2010-01-09 12:26:20 AM  

xuanzhiyouxuan: The TSA is just trying to make air travel unpleasant enough that we whole-heartedly accept that teleportation travel method where they make a copy of the traveler at the destination and kill the original.


No. No I don't doubt for a second that you've got a tinypic URL of that. Or five.
 
2010-01-09 12:27:09 AM  

snocone: TSA does not provide screening at all airports. There are a few independants still, but I am not sure enough of which ones to stick my neck out. They have to comply to TSA rules/procedures.
I believe LAX is still private, not TSA.


Not LAX, but SFO.

And Jackson Hole, Kansas City, Rochester NY, Tupelo and Key West.
 
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