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(Wall Street Journal) Spiffy No, you're not the only one who's annoyed when the grocery cashier asks if you want to donate a dollar to charity and you say "no" and feel like a douche even though you aren't   (online.wsj.com) divider line 504
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2010-01-08 09:54:28 AM
It's like the homeless asking for "spare" change.

Nothing "spare" about it.

That's money I EARNED, and that my family needs and is entitled to.

Which is why I give out Tim Hortons gift certificates instead of money. I know where it'll be spent anyway.

/I'd have no problem saying no to this sales pitch.
 
2010-01-08 09:56:31 AM
"an unpleasant sense of having been imposed upon."

Sniff sniff, the mean register jockey asked me a simple question sob sob
 
2010-01-08 09:58:10 AM
Charity drives are done by for-profit corporations and only a fraction of what you give actually goes to the charity itself*

*usually
 
2010-01-08 09:59:53 AM
kronicfeld

Hey dickhead, it's not a simple question, it'a a farking shakedown.
 
2010-01-08 10:00:35 AM
kronicfeld: Sniff sniff, the mean register jockey asked me a simple question sob sob

the question imposes what most people feel is an important human obligation--giving to charity. and saying "no" makes you feel guilty. it's not nice for the store to do that to customers who just spent money there
 
2010-01-08 10:04:11 AM
From another perspective, it's also wrong for the store to require its employees to essentially work for another company and generate profit for it, without pay.
 
2010-01-08 10:05:59 AM
Just say No.
 
2010-01-08 10:09:37 AM
Ask the cashier how much they gave.
 
2010-01-08 10:22:51 AM
ne2d: Charity drives are done by for-profit corporations and only a fraction of what you give actually goes to the charity itself*

*usually


This is why I don't give. It's not so much that I want to hang onto my money - although, in general, I do - as it is that I am *highly* suspicious of a huge for-profit corporation suddenly doing a fund drive for a non-profit out of the goodness of their hearts. If I want to give to St. Jude's or whatever, I'll give directly to them (and I do); I'll pass on the opportunity to give your greedy company a tax break in the process, thanks.
 
2010-01-08 10:24:06 AM
albo: and saying "no" makes you feel guilty.

I say "no" all the time, content in the knowledge that I already contribute a decent amount of money to charity. I don't feel "guilty." And I'm sure that the people at the register don't give a good goddamn one way or the other, and probably feel like assholes for being required to ask that scripted question. This is just another example of someone who wants to feel like history's greatest victim.

Petit_Merdeux: Ask the cashier vice presidents in charge of the charitable tie-in who require the cashiers to ask the question how much they gave.
 
2010-01-08 10:24:12 AM
I've made it a point to never give like that. Fortunately I don't go shopping much (that's what the missus does) so I'm not confronted by it often.

Hmm... I wonder if she gives?
 
2010-01-08 10:29:14 AM
kronicfeld: I say "no" all the time, content in the knowledge that I already contribute a decent amount of money to charity

but you're a gentlemen of confident amiability. most people do not have your refinement
 
2010-01-08 10:30:05 AM
albo: but you're a gentlemen of confident amiability. most people do not have your refinement

Tell me about it!
 
2010-01-08 10:31:49 AM
I actually like it when Petco rounds up my purchase and gives the remainder to charity. It saves me from adding another scoop of change to my coat pockets (which will ultimately empty out on to my seat as I am driving) and it makes me feel like a hero for giving 7 cents to a dog.

I don't even think they have coat pockets, but ok
 
2010-01-08 10:34:11 AM
I recommend giving items instead of money- most animal shelters accept donations of blankets, cat/dog food, etc., so you know you're giving directly to the adorable animals.
 
2010-01-08 10:35:02 AM
If you're reading the WSJ opinion page, you probably are a douche.

Also, here's a helpful picture of what a cashier might look like:

i236.photobucket.com
 
2010-01-08 10:39:52 AM
hmm. odd. I had no trouble saying 'no' to the sales pitch.
 
2010-01-08 10:47:41 AM
Anyone sensitive enough to think that a cashier asking a simple "yes or no" question is somehow imposing probably shouldn't be making big important excursions like buying things for themselves.
 
2010-01-08 10:49:01 AM
It's very easy to pass on one of those. I contribute to combat blindness foundation which I know for every 20 bucks I give, someone will see again.
 
2010-01-08 10:49:51 AM
ne2d
Charity drives are done by for-profit corporations and only a fraction of what you give actually goes to the charity itself*

*usually


Depends. I've heard that's often the case with phone pitches. With those store drives I really don't know. I wouldn't assume they're a bad deal for the charities. They may be something the corporate store arranges with a charity to make themselves look good that has minimal cost being paid out of donations. Some research from a charity watchdog would be useful.

albo
the question imposes what most people feel is an important human obligation--giving to charity. and saying "no" makes you feel guilty.

Maybe it makes you feel guilty. It doesn't bother me. If I'm thinking about giving to a charity, I look into it on my own and if it looks like something I'd like to support and they appear to use their funds wisely, I may support them. I usually ignore store pitches like that.

WTFDYW
Hey dickhead, it's not a simple question, it'a a farking shakedown.

Hey pussy, it's not the store's fault you have a guilty conscience. They asked you a simple question. Say no if you don't want to give. I say no to that stuff on a regular basis and don't feel bad at all.

/name calling is fun!
 
2010-01-08 10:59:40 AM
The only question I ask: "Does (Company Name) match each donation?"

If yes, I donate. If no, I don't.

Then I ask the cashier "If I told you I was old enough to have both a driver's license AND the ability to buy alcohol legally, would that impress you enough to make you want me to pick you up after school tomorrow?"
 
2010-01-08 11:03:22 AM
The best thing to say is "not today."
 
2010-01-08 11:03:23 AM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: Then I ask the cashier "If I told you I was old enough to have both a driver's license AND the ability to buy alcohol legally, would that impress you enough to make you want me to pick you up after school tomorrow?"

Bring candy
 
2010-01-08 11:05:32 AM
jonasborg
It's very easy to pass on one of those. I contribute to combat blindness foundation which I know for every 20 bucks I give, someone will see again.

$20 to cure blindness? How's that work?

ahem... this thread should now be about charities people think are truly worthwhile. I like Remote Area Medical (new window).

Stan Brock, formerly of Wild Kingdom, founded it in 1985 to get medical care to mostly inaccessible parts of the world. Now they do over half of their work at free health clinics in the United States. They do an incredible job making a little money go a long way, treating patients for literally a couple bucks per person. Volunteer doctors and nurses work the clinics providing general practitioner care, cancer screenings, dentistry, optometry, and more.
 
2010-01-08 11:21:13 AM
WTFDYW: kronicfeld

Hey dickhead, it's not a simple question, it'a a farking shakedown.


It's a question. If you feel bad saying no, that's your own deal.
 
2010-01-08 11:22:07 AM
They look down on you when you kick the crap out of the cashier the way you do the bums down town.
 
2010-01-08 11:24:42 AM
I turn the question around by asking them how many boxes of my daughter's girl scout cookies I can put them down for.
 
2010-01-08 11:28:35 AM
I wonder if those who can't say "no" to this solicitation are the same ones who can't say "no" when the cashier asks for their phone number, then wonder why they get so many telemarketing solicitations.
 
2010-01-08 11:40:46 AM
ne2d: Charity drives are done by for-profit corporations and only a fraction of what you give actually goes to the charity itself*

*usually


Eh, for ours we match our charity drive... we raised a little more than 4 million at registers, and donated 8 million total. Kids with cancer already get a raw deal, helping out St. Judes is the least we could do.
 
2010-01-08 11:45:35 AM
For those of you who shop Safeway, Vons or Dominick's here's where your donations go SAFEWAY.

And than you for shopping Safeway
 
2010-01-08 11:48:07 AM
damat01: For those of you who shop Safeway, Vons or Dominick's here's where your donations go SAFEWAY.

And than you for shopping Safeway


wait - how is that even legal? corporation opens up a charity organization, then solicits donations from customers and...we're supposed to believe that the money actually goes to poor people? How do we know the corporation isn't skimming off the top?
 
2010-01-08 11:51:32 AM
I never know what I'm making for dinner in advance, so I shop every night rather than once a week. You get over the "guilt" pretty quickly at that pace.
 
2010-01-08 11:52:21 AM
WTFDYW: kronicfeld

Hey dickhead, it's not a simple question, it'a a farking shakedown.


You consider being asked to donate a dollar by a cashier a "Farking shakedown?" Good lord man, you must have some terrifying acne riddled high school students at your grocery store.
 
2010-01-08 11:53:39 AM
Hello sir, how are you doing?

Fine. Thankyou.

Did you find everything you were looking for?

Yes. That's why I'm in the checkout line.

Great. Are you a member of our shopper's club?

Yes. That's why I'm holding out my card.

Oh, there it is. Great. Is plastic OK?

Yes.

Cold day, huh?

Yes.

Any coupons?

No.

Oh, you know these muffins are on a two for one special, right? You want to go get another one?

No.

Do you want this six pack in a bag?

It. Doesn't. Matter.

Would you like to hold onto these Altoids?

FINE.

Cash or credit?

I'M. HOLDING. OUT. MY. CREDIT. CARD.

Would you like...?

NO I DON'T WANT TO DONATE ANYTHING TO CHARITY AND I'M TIRED OF THIS GODDAMN INQUISITION EVERY TIME I TRY TO CHECK OUT AND I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE STARVING CHILDREN AND I DON'T GIVE A FARK ABOUT THE HOMELESS DOGS OR THE KID WITH WITH CANCER OR THE WINGLESS CHICKENS OR ANY OF THE OTHER CHARITIES YOU WANT TO MAKE ME FEEL GUILTY ABOUT JUST LET ME PAY AND GO GODDAMNIT.

uh...i was going to ask if you wanted someone to help you to you car with those bags...

Oh. Oh, OK. Yeah, that's fine.
 
2010-01-08 12:00:32 PM
JacksBlack: The best thing to say is "not today."

That's what I say. "Not today, thanks." It implies that you have either donated already or you will next time. No guilt (not that you should feel guilty) and no money spent.

Plus, I do donate sometimes if I have a somewhat vested interest in the charity, e.g., "The Help Fat Bald Dudes Get Laid Fund."
 
2010-01-08 12:28:10 PM
Speaking as someone on the other side of the register, "not today" really is the best answer.

/really, it's not like the cashiers get a huge kick out of asking EVERY single customer.
 
2010-01-08 12:30:25 PM
uncle saddam: Speaking as someone on the other side of the register, "not today" really is the best answer.

/really, it's not like the cashiers get a huge kick out of asking EVERY single customer.


As someone also stuck on the crap side of the till, I admit I smirk everytime someone gives me that answer. I honestly don't give a crap whether or not you donate, my manager just makes me do it once in a blue moon to push sales numbers. Why give such a pansy answer?
 
2010-01-08 12:34:14 PM
Saw this conversation take place in the city two weeks ago:

Bum - "Excuse me, I'm starving and haven't eaten all day, could you spare some change so I can buy a hamburger"

Guy - "Sure I'll buy you a hamburger, what do you want on it?"

Bum - "Oh no that's ok, I can go buy it"

Guy - "It's no trouble at all, I'm hungry as well. I'll treat you to lunch, how's that?"

Bum - "Well I don't see anywhere to get a burger and I might have to walk far"

Guy - "Nahh, here look there's a McDonalds right across the street there."

Bum - "*blank stare*"

Guy - "Unless of course...you plan on drinking your meal"

Bum - *Look of surprise at being found out* "mumblegrumble MERRY F*CKING CHRISTMAS"

Had to laugh.
 
2010-01-08 12:34:37 PM
i have no problem laughing at the salesperson, while saying no.
 
2010-01-08 12:38:25 PM
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Bum - *Look of surprise at being found out* "mumblegrumble MERRY F*CKING CHRISTMAS"

Had to laugh.


Why not give the guy some money for a drink?
 
2010-01-08 12:41:00 PM
I usually tell them I can't afford it. I then ask them how I can get added to the charity list since my brie, water creckers, Perrier, truffles, and designer cheese have gone up in price and it is getting tougher to make ends meet. Then I go out to my Mercedes C Class and go fill up my gas tank with premium.
 
2010-01-08 12:41:34 PM
DamnYankees: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Bum - *Look of surprise at being found out* "mumblegrumble MERRY F*CKING CHRISTMAS"

Had to laugh.

Why not give the guy some money for a drink?


Don't ask me. I wasn't the one he was pestering.

Although if he wanted a drink, why not just ask for it. Not like you have any dignity to hold on to if you're begging people in the street for money anyway.
 
2010-01-08 12:42:19 PM
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Although if he wanted a drink, why not just ask for it. Not like you have any dignity to hold on to if you're begging people in the street for money anyway.

But they do have dignity. They are human beings, for crying out loud.
 
2010-01-08 12:43:26 PM
DamnYankees: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Although if he wanted a drink, why not just ask for it. Not like you have any dignity to hold on to if you're begging people in the street for money anyway.

But they do have dignity. They are human beings, for crying out loud.


That kind of thinking is dangerous. Before you know it theCHAAAAAAAAAAAANGE. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHAAAAAAAAAAANGE?
 
2010-01-08 12:44:08 PM
I figure I've eaten at least one dollar's worth of raw pork while walking around shopping anyway, so it's a wash.

I pay the dollar then tell the cashier "I'm just a VERY giving person. By the way, did you notice I'm purchasing the MEDIUM condoms?"
 
2010-01-08 12:58:20 PM
DamnYankees: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Bum - *Look of surprise at being found out* "mumblegrumble MERRY F*CKING CHRISTMAS"

Had to laugh.

Why not give the guy some money for a drink?


I refuse to because my Mother was (still is I suppose) a hardcore alcoholic (dry for 12 years) and I refuse to be an enabler for other alcoholics.

So I give out the Timmies gift certs because I know they'll be able to get warm, and have a coffee or soup.

I have had zero grumbling since I started this two years ago.
 
2010-01-08 01:00:49 PM
DamnYankees: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Although if he wanted a drink, why not just ask for it. Not like you have any dignity to hold on to if you're begging people in the street for money anyway.

But they do have dignity. They are human beings, for crying out loud.


Asking strangers for money for booze when you don't have a room over your head is not dignified. Giving such a person money to consume alcohol does not give him any additional dignity. That's like saying that paying bums to fight so you can film it is "providing gainful employment."
 
2010-01-08 01:02:15 PM
OlafTheBent: DamnYankees: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Bum - *Look of surprise at being found out* "mumblegrumble MERRY F*CKING CHRISTMAS"

Had to laugh.

Why not give the guy some money for a drink?

I refuse to because my Mother was (still is I suppose) a hardcore alcoholic (dry for 12 years) and I refuse to be an enabler for other alcoholics.

So I give out the Timmies gift certs because I know they'll be able to get warm, and have a coffee or soup.

I have had zero grumbling since I started this two years ago.


Gift certificates are a good idea. I'll have to do that. I've bought some sandwiches and coffee on a number of occasions, but that's a good solution. The guy may end up trading it for cash for like 50 cents on the dollar, of course.
 
2010-01-08 01:04:34 PM
Nabb1: Asking strangers for money for booze when you don't have a room over your head is not dignified. Giving such a person money to consume alcohol does not give him any additional dignity. That's like saying that paying bums to fight so you can film it is "providing gainful employment."

Well they aren't asking for booze. That's the point.
 
2010-01-08 01:07:56 PM
wyltoknow: As someone also stuck on the crap side of the till, I admit I smirk everytime someone gives me that answer. I honestly don't give a crap whether or not you donate, my manager just makes me do it once in a blue moon to push sales numbers. Why give such a pansy answer?

I say, "No thanks. I appreciate it, though!"
 
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