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2010-01-07 02:04:53 PM  
Subby sounds fat. I give you a C.
 
2010-01-07 02:15:52 PM  
THAT's why I'm 200 lbs overweight!


From a random website
As we explain in the sections on how the values are determined, there is a considerable amount of variability in food products. In a compromise between the difficulty of producing precisely-controlled foods and protecting consumers, nutrients are divided into two groups. "Good" nutrients consisted of: "vitamin, mineral, protein, total carbohydrate, dietary fiber, other carbohydrate, polyunsaturated or monounsaturated fat, or potassium" and must be present in at least 80% of the label value in every unit tested. However, the amounts may exceed the label value by a "reasonable" amount. Conversely, "bad" nutrients: calories, sugars, total fat, saturated fat, cholesterol, or sodium must be present in no more than 120% of the label value but may be less than the label value by a "reasonable" amount.
 
2010-01-07 02:28:29 PM  
OMG. THEY MADE MY ASS FAT. THAT IS UNREALSONABLE!!!!
 
2010-01-07 02:28:56 PM  
Chubby cuisine?
 
2010-01-07 02:29:17 PM  
Roberts says the study "raises a big issue" and that posting calories for consumers is only useful if the numbers are right.

no shiat? really?
 
2010-01-07 02:29:55 PM  
You said calorie twice
 
2010-01-07 02:30:10 PM  

Roberts says the study "raises a big issue" and that posting calories for consumers is only useful if the numbers are right.


..which only matters if people are using the numbers....
 
2010-01-07 02:30:52 PM  
Chit.
 
2010-01-07 02:32:45 PM  

utsagrad123: You said calorie twice


I like calories.
 
2010-01-07 02:32:59 PM  
Common cheap cheesy choices containing corrupt calorie counts chafe calorie conscious
 
2010-01-07 02:33:04 PM  
For many years, I have questioned how food manufacturers can possibly arrive at the nutrition related numbers on the packaging. I have long assumed they guess to the 'best' of their ability.
 
2010-01-07 02:33:59 PM  
It was a nice try at a tongue-twister subby, but mixing the hard and soft "c" sound makes it easy to say.
 
2010-01-07 02:34:14 PM  
Chat che cuck cind cf ceadline cs chat?
 
2010-01-07 02:35:03 PM  
Hey look this 3/4 pounder with cheese and bacon is only 700 calories!

Seriously...people know what they should and shouldn't eat. If you are at the stage where you're counting calories, you should not be in a fast food joint.
 
2010-01-07 02:36:22 PM  
Ya know, more than one type of analysis is possible. Avocados, from one standpoint are nearly green butter. But, they make a pretty good 5ht substitute after a long night of making an ass of myself with my raver pals.
 
2010-01-07 02:37:45 PM  

TheCableGuy: For many years, I have questioned how food manufacturers can possibly arrive at the nutrition related numbers on the packaging. I have long assumed they guess to the 'best' of their ability.


Absolute calorie counts used to be determined by combustion. I don't know if they upgraded the methodology since then.
 
2010-01-07 02:40:42 PM  
i.zdnet.com
 
2010-01-07 02:42:03 PM  
Sticky Hands: "..which only matters if people are using the numbers...."

This, as a fella says.
 
2010-01-07 02:42:07 PM  
There's differences in the calculations between countries too. I know in the US you can subtract any calories from insoluble fiber in the total calorie count, which you can't in Canada.
 
2010-01-07 02:44:32 PM  
This is why you don't count calories. Just eat healthy, morons, it's not exactly a secret. But everybody wants to have their cake (and the fries, and the ranch dip, and a coke) and eat it too.
 
2010-01-07 02:46:00 PM  
YCMV
 
2010-01-07 02:46:28 PM  

Atlas Blogged: This is why you don't count calories. Just eat healthy, morons, it's not exactly a secret. But everybody wants to have their cake (and the fries, and the ranch dip, and a coke) and eat it too.


no your a idiot
 
2010-01-07 02:46:48 PM  

signaljammer: Ya know, more than one type of analysis is possible. Avocados, from one standpoint are nearly green butter. But, they make a pretty good 5ht substitute after a long night of making an ass of myself with my raver pals.


Dude, no.

230g pureed Avocado = 368 calories (http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-avocados-i9037?size=2)

230g butter = 1656 calories
(http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-butter-i1145?size=3)
 
2010-01-07 02:54:56 PM  

Atlas Blogged: This is why you don't count calories. Just eat healthy, morons, it's not exactly a secret. But everybody wants to have their cake (and the fries, and the ranch dip, and a coke) and eat it too.


I lost 120lbs by counting calories. "Healthy" is subjective and can mean multiple things. Eating heart healthy isn't the same as eating to lose or maintain weight. You don't know what you're talking about.
 
2010-01-07 02:57:22 PM  
I can't imagine someone eating at Ruby Tuesday or Wendy's being overly concerned about calories - unless they're an idiot...
Okay, this is a huge issue.

/huge
 
2010-01-07 02:58:45 PM  
Easy way to calculate calories...

1 gram of Fat = 9 calories
1 gram of Carb = 4 calories
1 gram of Protein = 4 calories


One point to mention, and I may be possibly wrong about this, when companies calculate total calories they can round off the .5s to make it sound healthier...
And if it still looks bad? Minimize the "serving size" to change the numbers ...
 
2010-01-07 02:59:59 PM  

Tavillion: Atlas Blogged: This is why you don't count calories. Just eat healthy, morons, it's not exactly a secret. But everybody wants to have their cake (and the fries, and the ranch dip, and a coke) and eat it too.

no your a idiot


Whatever dude. I lost seventy million pounds eating only bacon milkshakes from Wendy's. You can do it too! No, I won't tell you how long I have kept the weight off or how long it took or what other health issues I have. Just trust me on this.
 
2010-01-07 03:00:53 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Subby sounds fat. I give you a C.


5'10" 180lb, athletic

/educated guess
 
2010-01-07 03:01:29 PM  
The "if you're eating fast food you're obviously not worried about calories" thing is a really dumb argument. I'm on a diet and counting calories. But fast food is tasty. I like to get it once a week. When I do, I like to look up what the low-calorie options are so I can get out with as little damage as possible while still indulging.

/same reason the "diet coke with your combo LOL" is dumb - that's 500 calories you're saving, and you'll end up a lot less fat just from that one switch
 
2010-01-07 03:01:43 PM  
Why was subby's headline almost as long as the article? Meanwhile the website still had to load 100s of KB worth of ads along the edges...

Why didn't the someone try confronting Wendy's or the other offending chains with these claims? Sure, maybe all they'd say is "we take such comments seriously" but at least it'd be SOMETHING. Just saying there's something wrong but not pushing the company's nose(s) in it isn't going to change anything.

Damn lazy journalists.
 
2010-01-07 03:01:50 PM  

Poorboytech2000: Easy way to calculate calories...

1 gram of Fat = 9 calories
1 gram of Carb = 4 calories
1 gram of Protein = 4 calories



1 gram of alcohol = 7 calories
 
2010-01-07 03:01:53 PM  

Poorboytech2000: Easy way to calculate calories...

1 gram of Fat = 9 calories
1 gram of Carb = 4 calories
1 gram of Protein = 4 calories


One point to mention, and I may be possibly wrong about this, when companies calculate total calories they can round off the .5s to make it sound healthier...
And if it still looks bad? Minimize the "serving size" to change the numbers ...


There was some restaurant that caught hell over that - they listed calories on the menu where each dinner was more than one serving and assumed to be eaten by multiple people.

/not that you couldn't do that with most restaurants, but still...
 
2010-01-07 03:08:18 PM  
awww poor babies did the fatties get swindled by 0 trans fats. take the damn KFC out your mouth. wish people had a little more reponsibiblty and claim i'm fat cause i made myself fat. when the box say 1 cup per serving it mean 1 cup. use some self control. your not going to die if you eat enough for one serving and still feel hungry. it just your body telling you hey you used to stuff alot more down here what's the deal. geez personal resposibility went out the window when mc donalds caved in that lawsuit. they should have stayed in it to win it since they would have. then all these fatties would look to somthing else to blame. cause seems nothing's changed even tho my supersized meal i used to get once a week is now gone. i still see fatties everywehere. then they tried to blame the school lunches. guess what dumbtards i still see your fat little crotchfruit running around the schools. so who else you going to blame? go choke on a ho ho and save us the trouble.
 
2010-01-07 03:09:14 PM  
Nevermind the calories, those diet meals are a ripoff. The main reason they help you lose weight is the portions are smaller and the price is higher. And the chain restaurants? Ugh. Who doesnt know that fried chicken fingers with gravy and melted cheese is unhealthy?

p.s. I often eat unhealthy food and drink beer, but am not a fatty.
 
2010-01-07 03:11:01 PM  
Has anyone seen the "I lost tons of weight on the Taco Bell Diet!" commercial?????

TALK ABOUT BULLSHIAT!!!!!


Hmm...Maybe I'll wait for a White Castle Diet?????
 
2010-01-07 03:11:32 PM  

rigamrts: geez personal resposibility went out the window when mc donalds caved in that lawsuit.


The one where they knowingly kept their coffee at dangerously hot temperatures that could instantly burn someone despite numerous warnings of the safety hazard? Or is there another one I'm not aware of?
 
2010-01-07 03:12:35 PM  

Racht: rigamrts: geez personal resposibility went out the window when mc donalds caved in that lawsuit.

The one where they knowingly kept their coffee at dangerously hot temperatures that could instantly burn someone despite numerous warnings of the safety hazard? Or is there another one I'm not aware of?



Or the one where the little fatboy's family tried to sue McDonalds for making their kids fat?
 
2010-01-07 03:14:30 PM  

Poorboytech2000: Has anyone seen the "I lost tons of weight on the Taco Bell Diet!" commercial?????

TALK ABOUT BULLSHIAT!!!!!


It's not bullshiat - read the disclaimer. She was on a 1250 calorie diet, 500 below her metabolic rate, for a year. That's a pound a week, or 54 pounds in about a year. The normal tacos have 170 calories each, and the fresco ones 150 each. So if you had three tacos as your meal, that would be well within the diet range.

The problem, of course, is that the vast majority of orders at Taco Bell are over 1000 calories. It's not to say you can't eat there while on a diet.
 
2010-01-07 03:14:52 PM  
Am i the only one who thinks that this IS a big deal?

These fast food companies that primarily sell to the less-educated are lying to them about the calorie content of their food.

/ you can't be certain about the exact calorie content of each individual dish, but if you constantly err on the side of undercounting the calories then Mr. Normal Distribution starts to be distrustful.
 
Ant
2010-01-07 03:15:58 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: There was some restaurant that caught hell over that - they listed calories on the menu where each dinner was more than one serving and assumed to be eaten by multiple people.


I farking hate that! Wanna say your product is low in calories? Easy! Halve the size of your serving! Never mind the fact that halving some things is stupid and impractical.
 
2010-01-07 03:17:12 PM  

Poorboytech2000: Has anyone seen the "I lost tons of weight on the Taco Bell Diet!" commercial?????

TALK ABOUT BULLSHIAT!!!!!


What's bullshiat about it? The Fresco steak soft taco is the healthiest menu item at Taco Bell. Two and a Diet Pepsi isn't a bad lunch.

Next you'll tell me that the junk food aisle in a grocery negates the health food aisle because they're both in the same building.
 
2010-01-07 03:18:52 PM  

Poorboytech2000:

Hmm...Maybe I'll wait for a White Castle Diet?????



The key to that one is the diarrhea.
 
2010-01-07 03:21:02 PM  

tricycleracer: Poorboytech2000: Has anyone seen the "I lost tons of weight on the Taco Bell Diet!" commercial?????

TALK ABOUT BULLSHIAT!!!!!

What's bullshiat about it? The Fresco steak soft taco is the healthiest menu item at Taco Bell. Two and a Diet Pepsi isn't a bad lunch.

Next you'll tell me that the junk food aisle in a grocery negates the health food aisle because they're both in the same building.


I was in vegas awhile back and they had deep fried twinkies...they were the healthiest thing on the menu!!
Great! I'll eat these...i'll lessen my caloric intake, double my efforts in the gym and lose weight! Somebody give me a commerical cuz the Twinkie Diet works for me!!!!
 
2010-01-07 03:21:47 PM  

Roundtower Darcy: Am i the only one who thinks that this IS a big deal?

These fast food companies that primarily sell to the less-educated are lying to them about the calorie content of their food.

/ you can't be certain about the exact calorie content of each individual dish, but if you constantly err on the side of undercounting the calories then Mr. Normal Distribution starts to be distrustful.


who cares how many calories are in it thier shiat it's all bad for you anyways. why don't we camp outside all the fastfood resturants and when a fattie walks in we chant fatties go home cause your only going to get bigger. go eat some greens insted.
 
2010-01-07 03:22:29 PM  
Subby alliteration fail!

/consonant sound, not letter
 
2010-01-07 03:23:40 PM  

Poorboytech2000:
I was in vegas awhile back and they had deep fried twinkies...they were the healthiest thing on the menu!!


The meal he was referring to (two fresco steak soft tacos and a diet pepsi) is 320 calories. You seem to be arguing that everything at Taco Bell is unhealthy and you couldn't possibly eat there while on a diet. To put it frankly, that's ridiculous. And it's the whole point of having the commercial in the first place, because there are a lot of shallow-minded people out there like you that make such reflexive judgments.
 
2010-01-07 03:23:50 PM  
This thread sounds fat.
 
2010-01-07 03:24:08 PM  

Poorboytech2000: tricycleracer: Poorboytech2000: Has anyone seen the "I lost tons of weight on the Taco Bell Diet!" commercial?????

TALK ABOUT BULLSHIAT!!!!!

What's bullshiat about it? The Fresco steak soft taco is the healthiest menu item at Taco Bell. Two and a Diet Pepsi isn't a bad lunch.

Next you'll tell me that the junk food aisle in a grocery negates the health food aisle because they're both in the same building.

I was in vegas awhile back and they had deep fried twinkies...they were the healthiest thing on the menu!!
Great! I'll eat these...i'll lessen my caloric intake, double my efforts in the gym and lose weight! Somebody give me a commerical cuz the Twinkie Diet works for me!!!!


It's not my fault that you can't do basic math.

If you ate 2 deep friend Twinkies a day and nothing else, you'd drop weight fast.

1 Twinkie = 150 calories

Batter and oil = 275 calories

Total Damage = 425 calories, about the same as a slice of apple pie a la mode
 
Ant
2010-01-07 03:24:15 PM  

rigamrts: awww poor babies did the fatties get swindled by 0 trans fats.....

.... go choke on a ho ho and save us the trouble.


Your rant makes no sense in the context of the article. People who claim no responsibility for their fatness don't give a shiat about calorie counts.

infinitecoolness.com
What in God's holy name are you blathering about?
 
2010-01-07 03:25:36 PM  

Poorboytech2000:
One point to mention, and I may be possibly wrong about this, when companies calculate total calories they can round off the .5s to make it sound healthier...
And if it still looks bad? Minimize the "serving size" to change the numbers ...


A lot of the sugar free products use the sneaky serving size trick, because if a "serving" has less than, I think it's 5 calories, you can say that it has 0 calories. So you buy some sugar free mints or whatever and it says 0 calories per mint, so you eat 100 mints. Well, congratulation, you just consumed a few hundred calories of sugar alcohols. Enjoy the stomach pains and diarrhea.
 
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