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(WCBStv.com)   2010 census form includes "negro" as race option. Census Bureau apologizes for error, promises to change option to "attractive and successful African American"   (wcbstv.com) divider line 374
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2010-01-06 09:10:00 PM
Snert!
 
2010-01-06 09:14:47 PM
well, in fairness, "negroid" is a semi-scientific term. But they might as well have just put african am/black instead.

Then again, think about the age group a census bureaucrat is likely to be in...
 
2010-01-06 09:24:04 PM
Relax, it's just the aforementioned question in Spanish.



not!
 
2010-01-06 09:54:14 PM
well considering i choose "other" if African/Am is the only choice supposedly representing my skin color, i view this as a win.
my birth certificate says Negro so i guess i can choose that now.
or maybe other again.
cant really remember the choices on the last census.
 
2010-01-06 09:59:03 PM
Somaticasual: But they might as well have just put african am/black instead.

If I'm a white South African that migrates to the US, am I African-American?
 
2010-01-06 10:05:13 PM
Every other farking form in the United States is written in Spanish I don't see why the census should be any different.
 
2010-01-06 10:14:28 PM
Easy solution...

Which of the following appears most closely related to you? (circle one):
science.nationalgeographic.com
/And you could throw in a few more to complete the set.
 
2010-01-06 10:34:46 PM
dj_bigbird: Somaticasual: But they might as well have just put african am/black instead.

If I'm a white South African that migrates to the US, am I African-American?


Technically, i'd imagine. Intriguing catch, though.
 
2010-01-06 10:44:45 PM
Negro?

Please.
 
2010-01-07 12:08:00 AM
House of Tards: Negro?

Please.


So, um, what do Black Spaniards call themselves?
 
2010-01-07 12:20:16 AM
Maybe it is time to eliminate all of that stuff...

I'm on the last of my legal name change (married name PLUS first/middle name change by choice) and good GOD the paperwork is ridiculous. The race stuff always ruffles me a bit, and I am about 85% Irish and the rest Welsh... what difference does it make? My parents were both born in New York. They need to start calling people "American."


I can not wait to see Ireland and Wales, but... I'm American by birth and don't see what color my skin (ghost-like) should matter any more than the darkest of my friends with the same liniage from different countries.


Doing away with "white"/"black" would be a huge leap in race relations... who cares??

/fails in Italian areas, thrives in Hispanic/black areas, is virtually transparent, she's so pale. By and large the former are assholes, and the latter compliment my (orange/red/pink/purple) hair and ask how I do it. (Stereotype: black people are afraid of bleach).... I'll take the nice people.
 
2010-01-07 12:20:49 AM
35 years ago my mom worked in the personnel (HR) department at Sears. They used what was called the "COINS" code on job applications. A letter was indiscreetly placed at the top of the filled-out application: C=Caucasian, O=oriental, I=Indian, N=negro and S=Spanish.
 
2010-01-07 12:45:30 AM
sponkster: Every other farking form in the United States is written in Spanish I don't see why the census should be any different.

Waaaaaaaah! I have to notice the Spanish writing in EVERY form EVER that I have to fill out. Waaaaaaaah!

Oh look, I found your picture:
i285.photobucket.com
 
2010-01-07 12:50:03 AM
ElQue: sponkster: Every other farking form in the United States is written in Spanish I don't see why the census should be any different.

Waaaaaaaah! I have to notice the Spanish writing in EVERY form EVER that I have to fill out. Waaaaaaaah!

Oh look, I found your picture:


Uhhhh... my post was either in the wrong thread or mr. sponkster has had his comments deleted.
 
2010-01-07 12:52:50 AM
not sure if this is the same article I read earlier, but I've read at least one network report claiming that a bunch of people wrote in 'negro' in 2000. If that's the case, why wouldn't they put it on this time around?
 
2010-01-07 01:02:34 AM
ElQue: Uhhhh... my post was either in the wrong thread or mr. sponkster has had his comments deleted.

Neither. It's still there for me.
 
2010-01-07 01:19:10 AM
oldebayer: So, um, what do Black Spaniards call themselves?

magnifico
 
2010-01-07 01:25:01 AM
know what I hate? I hate when someone is trying to describe another person to you and they leave out important bits like skin color.

them: he's clean shaven, brown eyes, about 180, 5'10....no? well he doesn't have glasses. mid 30's...still drawing a blank? hmmm...dresses nice. always wears a tie...

me: that black dude by the water cooler?

them: yes!

me: *facepalm*
 
2010-01-07 01:25:30 AM
dj_bigbird: Somaticasual: But they might as well have just put african am/black instead.

If I'm a white South African that migrates to the US, am I African-American?


Not to mention someone from Morocco, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia or Egypt. Those are all African countries too as much as Kenya or Botswana.
 
2010-01-07 01:42:13 AM
It's a legitimate race descriptor. Why is "Negro" offensive but "Caucasian" is not?

The best explanation I've heard was from Robin Quivers, a black woman and co-host of the Howard Stern Show. She once said white people don't mind being called Caucasian, or cracker, or whitebread because they love the fact that they're white. White people almost take such names as a compliment. Black people, on the other hand, hate any and all racial epithets because they're pissed off at being black.
 
2010-01-07 02:02:37 AM
Epsilon: he once said white people don't mind being called Caucasian, or cracker, or whitebread because they love the fact that they're white.

I don't know about that. I just think cracker, or whitebread etc.. are more silly than offensive.
 
2010-01-07 02:10:52 AM
Epsilon: It's a legitimate race descriptor. Why is "Negro" offensive but "Caucasian" is not?

And Negro is a lot more technically accurate Caucasian is (based on modern definitions of what a "black" person is vs a "white person".
 
2010-01-07 02:17:14 AM
why is this even an issue?
 
2010-01-07 02:39:40 AM
Snarfangel: Which of the following appears most closely related to you? (circle one):

yes
no
maybe if drunk
no
yes
definitely if drunk
yes
yes
maybe if I were a priest
yes
yes but she has to pay for dinner
DSL? Hell yes.
 
2010-01-07 02:41:54 AM
I'm still trying to figure out why they make the "Latino" selection a separate category altogether.

Weird

/has seen that on other government forms as well
 
2010-01-07 02:57:24 AM
it's a shame it doesn't say how many people voted

megain.smugmug.com
 
2010-01-07 03:08:48 AM
NeedleGuy: I'm still trying to figure out why they make the "Latino" selection a separate category altogether.

Because they want to feel special.
 
2010-01-07 03:09:15 AM
I don't see what the big deal is. TFA says that they included the term because a significant number of people identified themselves as negro in the write-in part on previous census forms. If a significant amount of people identified themselves as Honky, they'd include that too.
 
2010-01-07 03:10:57 AM
As an Eastern-European American, I'm still trying to decide if I'm offended at this ...
 
2010-01-07 03:13:26 AM
CraicBaby: I don't see what the big deal is. TFA says that they included the term because a significant number of people identified themselves as negro in the write-in part on previous census forms. If a significant amount of people identified themselves as Honky, they'd include that too.

I've been writing in "Lizard people" for years and they haven't done squat.
 
2010-01-07 03:14:43 AM
I'm really looking forward to filling out the census. It'll be one more queer agnostic the conservatives will have to acknowledge.
 
2010-01-07 03:16:25 AM
Britney Spear's Speculum: Relax, it's just the aforementioned question in Spanish.



not!


nymag.com
 
2010-01-07 03:16:50 AM
As a vanilla-gorilla, I'm still trying to decide if I'm offended at this ...
 
2010-01-07 03:18:39 AM
but..but..what about the United Negro College Fund?
 
2010-01-07 03:19:59 AM
The problem is that there are a handful of older African-American communities who still self-identify as "negro." When that generation dies out they can change the form, but until then it's not the US Census' job to tell them how to self-identify, but rather account for that preference in the forms.
 
2010-01-07 03:20:11 AM
Megain: it's a shame it doesn't say how many people voted

Oh 4chan, you silly kids.
 
2010-01-07 03:20:31 AM
danged nigglers and their niggling.



/look up the word
 
2010-01-07 03:21:50 AM
img710.imageshack.us
 
2010-01-07 03:22:39 AM
Do people frown upon this?
 
2010-01-07 03:22:47 AM
NeedleGuy: I'm still trying to figure out why they make the "Latino" selection a separate category altogether.

Weird

/has seen that on other government forms as well


That's always bugged me as well. Its are you:

a) white
b) African American
c) Asian
d) Native American
e) Polynesian
f) Other

2. Are you Hispanic?
 
2010-01-07 03:24:51 AM
log_jammin: know what I hate? I hate when someone is trying to describe another person to you and they leave out important bits like skin color.

them: he's clean shaven, brown eyes, about 180, 5'10....no? well he doesn't have glasses. mid 30's...still drawing a blank? hmmm...dresses nice. always wears a tie...

me: that black dude by the water cooler?

them: yes!

me: *facepalm*



Hilarious. I once played a party/drinking game with some friends -- the name of a person is stuck to each player's forehead, and players take turns asking the group yes/no questions until (s)he discovers who (s)he "is" (yeah, fine, we're farkin' lame...). A friend's midwestern, whitebread fiancee (now wife) had "Martin Luther King, Jr." stuck to her forehead. She finished DEAD LAST. NOT ONCE during the entire game did she inquire about the person's race or ethnicity. Afterwards, she claimed she "didn't think about people that way".

Right.
 
2010-01-07 03:25:02 AM
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/Oblig.
 
2010-01-07 03:25:29 AM
Somaticasual: well, in fairness, "negroid" is a semi-scientific term. But they might as well have just put african am/black instead.

Then again, think about the age group a census bureaucrat is likely to be in...


Wonder how I know you DNRTFA?
 
2010-01-07 03:26:14 AM
eehh Your Jedi Mind tricks don't work on me. I'm Negroian.
 
2010-01-07 03:27:03 AM
I'm just curious why race matters in the first place... or, for that matter, why they even call it race. Shouldn't it technically be called species or breed?

They should be concerned with total number of people and the language they read/ speak. Anything else should be irrelevant- since we are 'all created equal.'
 
2010-01-07 03:29:36 AM
Well, the could have seperate check-boxes for each, and just tabulate them all to mean the same thing.

/I agree everyone should just stop asking what race a person is
 
2010-01-07 03:29:42 AM
CraicBaby: I don't see what the big deal is. TFA says that they included the term because a significant number of people identified themselves as negro in the write-in part on previous census forms. If a significant amount of people identified themselves as Honky, they'd include that too.

Fair enough, but the people writing it in did so because they weren't African. Putting a separate entry in for them would have allowed them not to feel marginalized without calling African-Americans "negros".
 
2010-01-07 03:31:59 AM
NeedleGuy: I'm still trying to figure out why they make the "Latino" selection a separate category altogether.

Weird

/has seen that on other government forms as well


Latino/Latina is an "ethnicity" & not a "race"... maybe because there are "Black" Latinos/Latinas, lighter skinned "White" Latinos/Latinas, etc.

Now, why a Latino/Latina has to select White or Black (or other race) in addition to Latino/Latina or non-Latino/Latina status, I don't know why. Why does an ethnicity get segregated because of skin color (err, ah, race), I don't make those rules.

I mean, what about Wapanese? Someone think about the Wapanese-Americans!

meatofmystery: danged nigglers and their niggling.



/look up the word


No.

You are automagically racist. The definition or etymology of a word makes no difference if someone might be offended.

/liek I M ETOTLLY SRSs!
 
2010-01-07 03:32:21 AM
CraicBaby: If a significant amount of people identified themselves as Honky, they'd include that too.

Please farkers, can we do this? I don't care what race you are, it would be awesome to get "honky" (or any other appropriate silly word) on the next census form.
 
2010-01-07 03:32:55 AM
JWideman:
Fair enough, but the people writing it in did so because they weren't African. Putting a separate entry in for them would have allowed them not to feel marginalized without calling African-Americans "negros".


Funny thing- the vast majority of people claiming they're 'African-American' aren't African either.

Hell, most have been in the US for more generations then any other demographic.
 
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