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(UPI)   Canadian govt : We'll arrest and fine anyone who collect lobsters that washed up on the beach because they weren't caught under license. Mayor of St John: STFU and pass the melted butter   (upi.com) divider line 110
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2010-01-06 01:26:41 PM  
However, John St.-Coeur, a spokesman for the federal Fisheries and Oceans ministry issued a statement warning beachcomber they were breaking the law that says lobster can only be taken in traps by licensed fishermen during open season. Anyone else collecting lobsters could be fined $100,000, he said.

By Tuesday afternoon, the shore was mostly clear of lobsters and Mayor Pierre Godin said as many as 1,000 people -- including him -- had enjoyed many lobster meals since the weekend.


I'll bet right now some impotent bureaucrat is sitting in his office shaking his tiny fists at the world and planning his vengeance.
 
2010-01-06 01:29:47 PM  
An apple fell down from the tree.
And I'm gonna eat it, you see.
No, I didn't PICK it.
And you can go stick it,
If you think that matters to me.
 
2010-01-06 01:42:37 PM  
+1 for Mayor Kick-ass
 
2010-01-06 01:49:57 PM  
i.cdn.turner.com

/hot like melted butter
//and what was supposed to happen anyway? they're not terrestrial and would've died right there
 
2010-01-06 02:05:43 PM  
Weaver95: However, John St.-Coeur, a spokesman for the federal Fisheries and Oceans ministry issued a statement warning beachcomber they were breaking the law that says lobster can only be taken in traps by licensed fishermen during open season. Anyone else collecting lobsters could be fined $100,000, he said.

By Tuesday afternoon, the shore was mostly clear of lobsters and Mayor Pierre Godin said as many as 1,000 people -- including him -- had enjoyed many lobster meals since the weekend.

I'll bet right now some impotent bureaucrat is sitting in his office shaking his tiny fists at the world and planning his vengeance using public tax money to call phone sex lines.


FTFY
 
2010-01-06 02:08:34 PM  
Maritimers, of all people, should have been aware of this law and taken steps to avoid being pinched by the lobster clause.
 
2010-01-06 02:11:21 PM  
DslainteC: Maritimers, of all people, should have been aware of this law and taken steps to avoid being pinched by the lobster clause.

Well-played.

+1
 
2010-01-06 02:18:00 PM  
Weaver95: I'll bet right now some impotent bureaucrat is sitting in his office shaking his tiny fists at the world and planning his vengeance.

Actually, this incident underscores one of the great unspoken rules about Canadian society. We all instinctually know that we have legislated far more rules than we have any hope of reasonably enforcing. We're also pragmatic enough to understand that the cost of such enforcement (both literally and socially) is a price that none of us want. Therefore, if most of us follow most of the rules most of the time without being forced to, then none of us have a problem when people flat-out refuse to comply when issues like this come up.

That bureaucrat at Fisheries Canada might be shaking his tiny fists for a short while, but I seriously doubt that there will be much time discussing, let alone enforcing, this particular law.

And nobody will have a problem with that. But nor should they.
 
2010-01-06 02:25:05 PM  
sadly if this was the United States of Murica the DEA, CIA, NSA, FBI and the good sherif would have been patrolling the area insuring that these lobsters died of a natural cause and that no one would get to enjoy them...


was going to troll. this guy is awesome though .. so instead +1 to mayor.
 
2010-01-06 03:14:05 PM  
UP YOURS, BUDDAY!
 
2010-01-06 03:17:40 PM  
Why the hell would someone eat some dead shellfish that washes up on the shore? I'm allergic to shellfish, so somebody tell me: are they that tasty, even shen they've been sea-bobbing dead for who knows how long?
 
2010-01-06 03:20:47 PM  
Once again the only reason the government wants this type of this enforced is because people get to do something without pay the government for it. Same crap as the people with the personal gas well that had to be capped, safety is an illusion, your tax dollars is all they care about.
 
2010-01-06 03:21:17 PM  
domenad: Why the hell would someone eat some dead shellfish that washes up on the shore? I'm allergic to shellfish, so somebody tell me: are they that tasty, even shen they've been sea-bobbing dead for who knows how long?

Yes, although I personally prefer king crab to lobster.
 
2010-01-06 03:23:24 PM  
domenad: Why the hell would someone eat some dead shellfish that washes up on the shore? I'm allergic to shellfish, so somebody tell me: are they that tasty, even shen they've been sea-bobbing dead for who knows how long?

I guessing they were washed up alive, and collected before they died as they probably had no hope of getting back to the water in a timely fashion.
 
2010-01-06 03:24:16 PM  
i am lobster man from Pubnico, NS and am getting kick out of this.

we ALL (in the maritimes) have had meals from what the ocean was kind enough to wash up for us.

i have had many, many mussels, clams, oysters, periwinkles, crabs, lobsters and fish that i have gone to the shore to pick up.

the local DFO turns a blind eye.
 
2010-01-06 03:25:57 PM  
Thisbymaster: Once again the only reason the government wants this type of this enforced is because people get to do something without pay the government for it. Same crap as the people with the personal gas well that had to be capped, safety is an illusion, your tax dollars is all they care about.

Fisheries has to say things like this because, well, it's their job and their law. A member of the community probably pointed it out in the first place as a complaint. Does Fisheries really care about this incident? Not a bit.
 
2010-01-06 03:26:31 PM  
domenad: Why the hell would someone eat some dead shellfish that washes up on the shore? I'm allergic to shellfish, so somebody tell me: are they that tasty, even shen they've been sea-bobbing dead for who knows how long?

Because they're not dead...They just lost their way.
 
2010-01-06 03:26:52 PM  
This makes me wonder, could the Japanese just do this with dawfins and wherres instead of getting harrased by the ady gil? oh wait...
 
2010-01-06 03:28:02 PM  
NittLion78: UP YOURS, BUDDAY!

I'm not your budday, guy!
 
2010-01-06 03:28:48 PM  
Mr Guy: Yes, although I personally prefer king crab to lobster.

oh man that got me hungry. i might have to hit chickie and pete's now.
 
2010-01-06 03:29:53 PM  
Money really clouds common sense.
 
2010-01-06 03:30:24 PM  
rhiannon: Thisbymaster: Once again the only reason the government wants this type of this enforced is because people get to do something without pay the government for it. Same crap as the people with the personal gas well that had to be capped, safety is an illusion, your tax dollars is all they care about.

Fisheries has to say things like this because, well, it's their job and their law. A member of the community probably pointed it out in the first place as a complaint. Does Fisheries really care about this incident? Not a bit.


I bet it was this kid.
img41.imageshack.us
 
2010-01-06 03:31:08 PM  
Were they collected using magnets?
 
2010-01-06 03:31:29 PM  
MaxxLarge: An apple fell down from the tree.
And I'm gonna eat it, you see.
No, I didn't PICK it.
And you can go stick it,
If you think that matters to me.


I don't know why it took this long for me to put you in my favorites list, but it's done now.
 
2010-01-06 03:32:04 PM  
hey did you guys know South Park did this one episode with Canadians in it one time and there was this hilarious exchange that actually went on way way longer than it needed to?
 
2010-01-06 03:32:26 PM  
DFO regulations permitted the rape,
Of our beautiful ocean from headland to cape;
They brought in big trollers, they tore up our twine,
Politicians don't care for what's yours or what's mine!


/had a friend who used to work for DFO
//they arent as bad now as they used to be
 
2010-01-06 03:34:33 PM  
Next they'll be telling you that you can't keep your road kill.
 
2010-01-06 03:38:57 PM  
must've been son vegan

www.thinkprogresswatch.com
 
2010-01-06 03:42:50 PM  
One wonders how a law like that was passed to begin with.
 
2010-01-06 03:44:10 PM  
"...anyone who collects..."

subject-verb agreement

/someone had to
 
2010-01-06 03:45:51 PM  
If it washes up on my beach, it's mine.

/MINE! My Precious!
 
2010-01-06 03:51:22 PM  
It's the mayor of Petit-Rocher and not Saint-John subby. The Telegraph Journal is based in Saint-John.

If the little community I live in is going to be on Fark for doing something "Illegal", I want us to get the full credit for it lol.

/Them illegal lobsters were good. Mmmmmmmmm lobsters and beer. Wooohoo we're on Fark!
 
2010-01-06 03:54:35 PM  
I just hope they didn't pull them from Saint John harbour. The air in that city is bad enough, can't imagine what Irving dumps in the harbour...

/Daddy, why are the lobsters black?
 
2010-01-06 03:57:25 PM  
Doonboggle: I just hope they didn't pull them from Saint John harbour. The air in that city is bad enough, can't imagine what Irving dumps in the harbour...

/Daddy, why are the lobsters black?


Queue the "that's racist" image.
 
2010-01-06 04:04:00 PM  
unyon: Weaver95: I'll bet right now some impotent bureaucrat is sitting in his office shaking his tiny fists at the world and planning his vengeance.

Actually, this incident underscores one of the great unspoken rules about Canadian society. We all instinctually know that we have legislated far more rules than we have any hope of reasonably enforcing. We're also pragmatic enough to understand that the cost of such enforcement (both literally and socially) is a price that none of us want. Therefore, if most of us follow most of the rules most of the time without being forced to, then none of us have a problem when people flat-out refuse to comply when issues like this come up.

That bureaucrat at Fisheries Canada might be shaking his tiny fists for a short while, but I seriously doubt that there will be much time discussing, let alone enforcing, this particular law.

And nobody will have a problem with that. But nor should they.


That attitude is the reason why cops won't really bust you for small amounts of pot in this country. The cops know their resources are better used elsewhere, and as long you aren't obviously a dealer or have a large amount (more than an eighth or quarter ounce) then they will just grind it up on the ground. What you have described I think is totally true, and is probably one of the better parts of the Canadian Culture.
 
2010-01-06 04:07:05 PM  
how did civilization ever make it without politicians telling us what we can and can't do?
 
2010-01-06 04:08:40 PM  
Leeds: One wonders how a law like that was passed to begin with.


oh I dont know, perhaps to stop a little thing called over fishing?
 
2010-01-06 04:16:27 PM  
Leeds: One wonders how a law like that was passed to begin with.

Not really. Lobby for lobster industry got tired of locals tossing their own traps in the water. Donated to the government man's campaign to have it stopped.
 
2010-01-06 04:16:33 PM  
tgregory: how did civilization ever make it without politicians telling us what we can and can't do?

I'd trade everything this world has to offer for one lobster dinner.

Then, ANARCHY!!

I'd have a machine gun guitar and ride on a dunebuggy!
 
2010-01-06 04:18:21 PM  
www.lobsterhelp.com

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
 
2010-01-06 04:20:01 PM  
Throw back the females, or at least the ones with eggs.

Otherwise it's not all that big a deal for a one time happening. Unless there were thousands of them or something.
 
zz9
2010-01-06 04:20:54 PM  
trouzourt: sadly if this was the United States of Murica the DEA, CIA, NSA, FBI and the good sherif would have been patrolling the area insuring that these lobsters died of a natural cause and that no one would get to enjoy them...


was going to troll. this guy is awesome though .. so instead +1 to mayor.


US law makes this actually a crime, even though it took place in Canada. See Never Talk To The Police (Youtube) (new window)

/Talks about a US law that makes it a Federal crime to be in possession of a lobster where there is a law of a foreign country against possession.
//A must watch video.
 
2010-01-06 04:22:13 PM  
EWreckedSean: Leeds: One wonders how a law like that was passed to begin with.

Not really. Lobby for lobster industry got tired of locals tossing their own traps in the water. Donated to the government man's campaign to have it stopped.


There are so many people in this world that even something as small as lobster fishing needs to be regulated.

We are kinda f'ing up the oceans with our over-fishing as is. Imagine if there were zero regulations.
 
2010-01-06 04:23:53 PM  
shivk23: It's the mayor of Petit-Rocher and not Saint-John subby. The Telegraph Journal is based in Saint-John.

Not to mention that it's Saint John, not St. John. Though UPI made the same mistake.

(Yes, it does make a difference.)
 
2010-01-06 04:26:29 PM  
g026r: shivk23: It's the mayor of Petit-Rocher and not Saint-John subby. The Telegraph Journal is based in Saint-John.

Not to mention that it's Saint John, not St. John. Though UPI made the same mistake.

(Yes, it does make a difference.)

I hated my teacher for always trying to catch us on that one. It was on five freakin tests the same year!
 
2010-01-06 04:27:51 PM  
shivk23: It's the mayor of Petit-Rocher and not Saint-John subby. The Telegraph Journal is based in Saint-John.

Not to mention that it's Saint John, not St. John. Though UPI made the same mistake.

(Yes, it does make a difference.)

Sorry about the hyphen, French people tend to hyphenate everything.

/Is French and sorry about the hyphenation.
 
2010-01-06 04:29:24 PM  
I would imagine the ruling came partly as over zealous lobster fishermen were catching more than they were allowed and claiming that a good portion of them were washed up on the beach. Thus a law was passed to make sure that they didn't have a legal loophole to their quotas.
 
2010-01-06 04:37:59 PM  
Yeah, I'm looking at the Saint John Harbour right now and there sure as fark weren't any lobsters washing up here. Petit Rocher is like 250 miles from here.

Saint John also has a huge problem with shiatloads (literally) of raw sewage being dumped into the harbour, so I wouldn't eat what washed up here.

Also, unlike the mayor of Petit Rocher, the mayor of Saint John is an idiot.
 
2010-01-06 04:38:25 PM  
RockIsDead: rhiannon: Thisbymaster: Once again the only reason the government wants this type of this enforced is because people get to do something without pay the government for it. Same crap as the people with the personal gas well that had to be capped, safety is an illusion, your tax dollars is all they care about.

Fisheries has to say things like this because, well, it's their job and their law. A member of the community probably pointed it out in the first place as a complaint. Does Fisheries really care about this incident? Not a bit.

I bet it was this kid.


that is the funniest pic evar.
 
GCD
2010-01-06 04:42:02 PM  
It's SAINT John, not St. John.

SAINT John is in New Brunswick, St. John's is in Newfoundland.

/From neither and still knows this.
 
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