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2003-04-05 11:27:07 PM  
Rants about MAC vs. PC in 3...2....1. Oh Wait what the hell?
 
2003-04-05 11:50:37 PM  
Tourney3p0

Someone (the teacher) who switches from final cut pro to premiere does not serve as a good example. This individual obviously has very low post production needs. Hands down, FCP is a better app. The one thing premiere might have is faster rendering of effects. That's it. Maybe if your teacher had been switching to Avid on a PC I could give the story a little credit.
 
2003-04-05 11:57:11 PM  
Macs are more expensive, but you only buy them once.

My G4 is over two years old. It still smokes. I've never had a single crash in OSX. It runs for months at a time, even when I fire up Virtual PC.

My optical mouse has a wheel and 8 buttons. If you want to hack me, you have to be able to touch it.

I don't use the Mac for games. For the cost of a high-end video card I bought an XBox and a PS2.

Zealot? Perhaps. I've had nothing but positive experiences in 10+ years of using Apples for work and pleasure. I've used PCs longer, though. I don't want to deal with them on my own time. Parts are parts, though- and building a killer box doesn't take much know-how or money. But Windows sucks. Either way, regardless of your OS you WILL have to work harder and do more to get anything to run on a PC than you will with a Mac.

In my experience, most sneering anti-Mac folks are either geeks that think a machine needs conbstant hands-on tinkering to be viable or that there needs to be a healthy warez scene to make it worthwhile (not that Mac software is hard to "come by.") Or they are gamers.

I'd never buy a Mac for gaming. But I use it for everything else.
 
2003-04-06 12:40:40 AM  
Fark all y'all!

PC= Piece of Crap!
 
2003-04-06 12:42:27 AM  
"Macs are more expensive, but you only buy them once."

Kind of like peeing on an electric fence. The smart ones never do it again.
 
2003-04-06 12:42:44 AM  
The only reason I reboot my macs at all is because of the software updates that Apple provides (free, most of the time) that increase speed or generally offer things that make my life better. Other than that, I wouldn't have restarted any of them in the past 9 months... and one is running multiple websites with relatively high traffic volumes. X rocks. Easily the best OS for a present-day computer.

Since installing XP on three different machines at our office, I've done nothing but troubleshoot problems with drivers, seemingly daily update "patches" from Microsoft, and virus removal for the stuff the "patch" didn't fix. All while my macs sit there and smile at them.

Good for you Windows guys (and girls) for having so many pieces of software to pick from. Too bad that 99.44% of it's crap that won't do what you want no matter what. Sure I have less mac software to choose from. But what I buy works. Pretty much every time. Right out of the box.

Wanna play a game? Get a PS2 or GameCube. Or an XBox for that matter, if you feel you must give ol' Bill a buck or two. That's fine. That's what they're for. They're also around $200 or less. And the TV you already own is the monitor. Why would you want to build a computer with parts costing $1000+ to do the same thing, then add a monitor? Lemme know. I'm curious.

And for the rest of the folks that want to join this arguement (or any of the other billion or so PC/Mac arguements on the web, turn down your iPod when you type. It'll help you concentrate.
 
2003-04-06 12:47:09 AM  
Because I farking like my goddamn Battlefield 1942 mods?
 
2003-04-06 12:52:07 AM  
Wanna play a game? Get a PS2 or GameCube. Or an XBox for that matter, if you feel you must give ol' Bill a buck or two. That's fine. That's what they're for. They're also around $200 or less. And the TV you already own is the monitor. Why would you want to build a computer with parts costing $1000+ to do the same thing, then add a monitor? Lemme know. I'm curious.

Because the vast majority of people don't build a computer just for gaming. That's what's so stupid about Mac users. Their response to all of Apple's shortcomings is "Yeah, but all I have to do is go buy ". With a PC, you don't HAVE to go out and buy . It's already there. And just because your Apple costs "$1000+" doesn't mean a PC does. You can build a very capable PC for well under a grand. Or if you're not technically inclined, you can buy a great machine for a shade under a grand.

We don't HAVE to go out and buy floppy drives, or USB memory cards, or consoles. It's all there, ready for use. If we want a USB reader or a PS2, well then more power to us. We can certainly afford them with the money saved in not buying a Mac.

How much is Virtual PC going for these days? I'm certainly glad acquiring a copy of Virtual Mac will NEVER be on my list of things to do. How the hell do people get so brainwashed that they think that paying much more money and going through much more effort just to achieve the same result is such a great idea? I guess that's "Thinking differently".
 
2003-04-06 12:52:56 AM  
For Tourney3p0

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Please let go of my joystick!
 
2003-04-06 12:53:28 AM  
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ISDN It Still Does NothingÂ

APPLE Arrogance Produces Profit-Losing EntityÂ

SCSI System Can't See ItÂ

DOS Defective Operating SystemÂ

BASIC Bill's Attempt to Seize Industry ControlÂ

IBM I Blame MicrosoftÂ

DEC Do Expect CutsÂ

CD-ROM Consumer Device, Rendered Obsolete in MonthsÂ

OS/2 Obsolete Soon, Too.Â

WWW World Wide WaitÂ

MACINTOSH Most Applications Crash; If Not, The Operating System HangsÂ

PENTIUM Produces Erroneous Numbers Through Incorrect Understanding of MathematicsÂ

COBOL Completely Obsolete Business Oriented LanguageÂ

AMIGA A Merely Insignificant Game AddictionÂ

LISP Lots of Infuriating & Silly Parenthesis MIPS Meaningless Indication of Processor SpeedÂ

WINDOWS Will Install Needless Data On Whole SystemÂ

GIRO Garbage In Rubbish OutÂ

MICROSOFT Most Intelligent Customers Realize Our Software Only Fools Teenagers
 
2003-04-06 12:54:11 AM  
But if it doesn't really work in the first place, how is it ready to use?
 
2003-04-06 12:55:09 AM  
Chesty:

Please prove that it doesn't work in the first place. Not just a "But back in 1994 it took me 8 hours to install Win3x ROFLLOLLOL~!!" Seriously. Can you not use Windows? Millions of people do it just fine daily with no problem at all.
 
2003-04-06 12:55:53 AM  
let me try that again:

 
2003-04-06 12:56:18 AM  
"Let me try that again". Perhaps the most often spoken phrase among Mac users?
 
2003-04-06 01:03:19 AM  
Or the famous demo of windows 98 plug and play ;-) At least we try and refrain from doing it in public!
 
2003-04-06 01:03:34 AM  
I'm not the one with the problems. I'm the guy they call to fix the problems.

Funny thing is, most of the time the errors are between the keyboard and the chair. Which is the reason that I'd rather have all macs in an office than PC's. If 95% of users are novices regardless of how long they've been using computers, then why not keep the confusion level low? I'm not against Windows or Microsoft or Linux or any other system, just I've found that Macs can do the same quantity of work with the same (or usually in my case) better quality, at half the work for me. To me that's worth an extra few bucks.

Gotta run - got a kid with a nosebleed...
 
2003-04-06 01:09:22 AM  
Ok - he's plugged...

One more question, then I'll read your responses and go to bed.
Why do PC users knock macs? If we only have 5% of the computer market, and as many authors, historians, and others have said for years, is a "dying regime" for publishers, then why bother? Why is this such an issue? Why not just go about your business "knowing" that you're computer is superior, and leave us to our macs to be ignorant by ourselves?

I mean no disrespect to anyone, so please don't flame me, just answer. I'd really like some legitimate responses on this...
 
2003-04-06 01:11:11 AM  
Oh I'm sorry! Did I just windows all over your screen?

 
2003-04-06 01:11:28 AM  
"Funny thing is, most of the time the errors are between the keyboard and the chair. Which is the reason that I'd rather have all macs in an office than PC's. If 95% of users are novices regardless of how long they've been using computers, then why not keep the confusion level low?"

If the problem is with the operator, then it's a non-issue. A computer is a tool for most people. Just like a circular saw, a bench grinder, a back hoe, etc. Would you let an employee work on any of these with little to no knowledge of them? I'd certainly hope not.

If an employee whose job requires them to use computers doesn't know how to use a computer, he or she probably shouldn't get the job.
 
2003-04-06 01:13:13 AM  
Billy:

No, you didn't. You IE3'd all over the screen, which can be run in Wine and a host of other emulator products without Windows.
 
2003-04-06 01:16:33 AM  
If an employee whose job requires them to use computers doesn't know how to use a computer, he or she probably shouldn't get the job.

I didn't hire them, I just get the "pleasure" of dealing with them. And this isn't an isolated thing. Every company I've worked for in the last 8 years has been literally brimming with computer-ignorant people. They use them every day to do a repetitive task, but stray one eyota from the norm, and all hell breaks loose. Most people want things to happen magically, which doesn't work on PCs or Macs. So the platform has nothing to do with it.

In my perfect world, everyone I hired would have better than just a working knowledge of a PC OR a Mac. I don't care which. Just work. Dammit.
 
2003-04-06 01:16:35 AM  
Billy:

Because there's something highly ironic about all of it. Mac users talk about how inefficient PC's are in regard to performance (though there's no evidence in years to suggest this), but at the same time pay more money for less features to get the same thing done.
 
2003-04-06 01:17:10 AM  
That was to you Chesty, not Billy. Sorry.
 
2003-04-06 01:22:02 AM  
I think this sums up where this thread is heading...
 
2003-04-06 01:23:01 AM  
Let me guess.. "Let me try that again".
 
2003-04-06 01:23:31 AM  
Gotcha tourney -
But that's my point exactly. Why does it matter to you? Is my using a mac bothersome, or in some way hindering the PC using world? You don't accidentally pick up Mac versioned software for your PC at Best Buy. My ADB cables aren't usually mistaken for PC serial cables. My point is, if I'm only "hindering" my own user experience (which I don't think I am, BTW), why does it seem to hork off so many other people?

And one comment to Micah476, the round mouse WAS a stupid idea. God help you if you're in a dark room.
 
2003-04-06 01:25:04 AM  
exactly! though i think it is more due to the time of the hour and the individual typing than the computer...
 
2003-04-06 01:27:04 AM  
 
2003-04-06 01:28:41 AM  
Chesty:

Because it's annoying as hell. People like efficiency. People hate Macs for the same reason people hate SUV's. For much less (time, money, effort, whatever) you could accomplish the same thing.
 
2003-04-06 01:29:30 AM  
You mean Apple is still in business?
 
2003-04-06 01:29:58 AM  
Billy:

Nice Windows 98 screen there. What OS was Mac using back in 98? OS 8? Ah yes.. the pride of Apple. OS 8.
 
2003-04-06 01:33:33 AM  
Mac = <3
Windows = teh cry. ;_;
 
2003-04-06 01:34:03 AM  
Tourney:

Smile, Steve Jobs loves you too!



WWSJD?
 
2003-04-06 03:03:42 AM  
I kind of find this link usless. let's face it. anybody who fights over which computer operating system is better, will only see the girls on his screen and never in real life.

I use a pc becuase it is there. I use a PC becuase I built it and every one before it (really apple needs to let clones come in if they want to win) I use a PC because it is the most compatible with everything. you say "I own a computer" people assume you own a PC. you have to tell people you own a Mac and most of the time you will get funny looks.

honestly though. a PC running OS X or anthing more stable then win98 se ( I have win xp pro but can never get it to run as smoothly a win98 does now.. Guess the clean install is not just a recommendation) plus I really do think 512 megs of ram should be enough for any damn system. "give me a break, bill gates. trim the fat on that biatch, she eats too much"

I host of other things. like I have to fix a problem that was not there the night before. what the hell is that all about. suddenly a .dll makes a break for it and disappears. this isn't SingSing

I like my PC but I want a OS that wont give troubles

let the flames rise
 
2003-04-06 03:08:02 AM  
the picture was in reference to tourney's comment about mac os 8. oh well. win some, lose some.
 
2003-04-06 03:08:43 AM  
I said it once and I will say it again.
 
2003-04-06 03:11:08 AM  
I'd give a fark...FOR A DOLLAR!!!!
 
2003-04-06 03:20:48 AM  
AARG!! Who F$@KING CARES! PORN! Its about PORN! Where are the PORN LINKS!!! DAMNIT! France sucks.
 
2003-04-06 03:22:13 AM  
"Kind of like peeing on an electric fence. The smart ones never do it again."

IMG I love that one, I almost choked on some pop from that one
 
2003-04-06 03:40:10 AM  
I don't know about you guys, but if a boobies link gets farked, I come to the thread for help.

I am having a hard time masturbating to the thread.
 
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2003-04-06 05:16:14 AM  
This is way late in the thread to mention it, and unrelated to most of this discussion (other than that iMac ports picture) but it is always worth pointing out every time it comes up:

Anybody who uses the made-up written word "ghey" is so very gay.

That is all.
 
2003-04-06 05:21:16 AM  
Amiga rules the planet forever.
 
2003-04-06 09:26:19 AM  
I'll bet this thread has the highest virgin quotient of the day.
 
2003-04-06 09:38:35 AM  
I'm with Compton.
however, it's sad that the AMIGA USERS were the ones that basicially killed the Amiga. it was anything i could have wanted.
 
2003-04-06 10:28:11 AM  
You people are far to obsessed and defensive about your products, it's a machine idiots.
 
2003-04-06 11:05:58 AM  
The ignorance displayed in this thread surpasses even the worst religious and political discussions on Fark. I'm impressed!
 
2003-04-06 11:56:38 AM  
Never had 'too' much problems with Macs. They look pretty and "AI'ish". They probabaly cry for their mommies too. Macs also have a tendency to not have programs and games that I am use to, like any of them.

Um.. oh and another thing. What is with that Mac mouse? Looks like a cow hoof. Everytime I move it around with its one click, I extect it to moo. It's like one of those go-kart gas petals at an amusment part. Two speeds: Go fast or stop fast. Ironic that the software is something I never had problems - with it's Fisher-Price ease of use. I think it is the hardware that I have a few issues with. Macs seem to be generally paranoid about having straight edges on any of their hardware, from their speakers to their many many accessaries. Perhaps if Macs had a straight edge, they fear they might be sued for a Mac user cutting themselves. :)

It's all in jest. I just grew up with PC's and like knowing that I can go inside one of them and them not being sealed up like it's a leftover from Rosewell. :)
 
2003-04-06 12:07:27 PM  
How does my stylish ProMouse look like a hoof?
 
2003-04-06 12:31:26 PM  
I like having a choice.

Both platforms are good and both platforms have their problems, but nobody's being forced to use one typical machine.

Unix, linux, blahblahblah, I don't understand that stuff, but I respect it for allowing people to have even more choices.
 
2003-04-06 01:43:03 PM  
Dual 1.42GHz PowerPC is only $2699.00, you can substitute the other components for more affordable ones.

My P4 2.4 Windows XP machine cost me a little over 600 USD, of course I built it, and I used parts from my previous machine to run it.
 
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