The only people I see complaining about this are those who run red lights (which there are many).

I've been driving in Vegas for 20 years. We have traffic cameras, sensors, and human observers via video cams. I've never had a red light ticket. You know why? Because I don't run red lights.

Is it that farking hard to figure out? If you don't want a ticket, don't run the light.

Not only does it turn red as you get there, it holds the green on the other lanes for a good half-minute, even though there's no traffic at all... until some poor schlob drives up along the intersecting road, and the light changes to nail him.

I'm sorry, but I suspect traffic engineers are screwing with us.

The light was yellow, sir.

Balanchine precision

Am I supposed to know what the fark this means? I don't remember this being on the SAT. Is Balanchine a character from CSI or some shiat?

General Vayo: I'm sorry, but I suspect traffic engineers are screwing with us.

I think I see the error in your thinking...

Wanted for questioning....

Replace all intersections with roundabouts!!1

Three weeks ago I received 5 tickets that I apparently earned while sitting at a stop light for 60 seconds while it was red. My 'crime' failing to stop at a red light.

The funny thing is that the angle of the shot visible shows that my vehicle didn't move an inch during the 60 seconds and to make it even better it shows I was at least 4 feet away from the 'stop' line painted on the road.

I thought about being nice and taking it to the courthouse and showing them the 'duh!' Instead I called a friend of mine who's a lawyer, he's bored so we're going to have some fun in traffic court. We're not asking for money from anyone, we just want the charges dropped, but we're not above wasting tax payers money for some idle entertainment (GM did it.)

Red light cameras FAIL! The one two blocks from my house has issued over 1500 tickets in 3 days since it was turned on. I was tagged sitting at a stop light in another county, but unsurprisingly the company that provides the equipment to both counties is the same.

This should be entertaining.

-D

drayno76: Three weeks ago I received 5 tickets that I apparently earned while sitting at a stop light for 60 seconds while it was red. My 'crime' failing to stop at a red light.

The funny thing is that the angle of the shot visible shows that my vehicle didn't move an inch during the 60 seconds and to make it even better it shows I was at least 4 feet away from the 'stop' line painted on the road.

I thought about being nice and taking it to the courthouse and showing them the 'duh!' Instead I called a friend of mine who's a lawyer, he's bored so we're going to have some fun in traffic court. We're not asking for money from anyone, we just want the charges dropped, but we're not above wasting tax payers money for some idle entertainment (GM did it.)

Red light cameras FAIL! The one two blocks from my house has issued over 1500 tickets in 3 days since it was turned on. I was tagged sitting at a stop light in another county, but unsurprisingly the company that provides the equipment to both counties is the same.

This should be entertaining.

-D

The only flaw I can see in your plan: you do nothing to dissuade the company from shangheing other people with their scheme. Make it costly for them to do this, and they'll stop.

Other then that, I hope you keep us posted... Get a local paper reporter to come with you to the hearing, and get your story told. Then link it here.

Solid State Vittles: The light was yellow, sir.

I bet these cops got SCMODS.

Epsilon: The only people I see complaining about this are those who run red lights (which there are many).

I've been driving in Vegas for 20 years. We have traffic cameras, sensors, and human observers via video cams. I've never had a red light ticket. You know why? Because I don't run red lights.

Is it that farking hard to figure out? If you don't want a ticket, don't run the light.

That's the very type of thinking that has ushered in and will continue to sustain this police state we're living in-- the old "If you're not doing anything wrong" mentality. These traffic laws don't keep you any safer. People will still run red lights, people will still speed, and people will still die in car accidents. All these cameras do is make it easier for the stinking government to suck more money away from otherwise honest folks. Is it so hard to deal with red light accidents on an individual basis? Oh wait, that would benefit regular Joes and the government wouldn't get their cut. I mean, why does the government or anyone else deserve money from someone if that someone hasn't hurt anyone or damaged property? Revenue-based law enforcement is just another form of tyranny and thievery on the part of government, and here folks who have nothing to gain from it are clamoring for it. Unbelievable.

moothemagiccow: Balanchine precision

Am I supposed to know what the fark this means? I don't remember this being on the SAT. Is Balanchine a character from CSI or some shiat?

Balanchine is a name. To the author...that word; I do not think it means what you think it means.

Cool story but how is the traffic lights going to know that I'm an important person with important places to be. How is it gonna know that my time is more valuable then everyone elses.

DigitalCoffee: Solid State Vittles: The light was yellow, sir.

I bet these cops got SCMODS.

SCMODS?

Rohasman: drayno76: Three weeks ago I received 5 tickets that I apparently earned while sitting at a stop light for 60 seconds while it was red. My 'crime' failing to stop at a red light.

The funny thing is that the angle of the shot visible shows that my vehicle didn't move an inch during the 60 seconds and to make it even better it shows I was at least 4 feet away from the 'stop' line painted on the road.

I thought about being nice and taking it to the courthouse and showing them the 'duh!' Instead I called a friend of mine who's a lawyer, he's bored so we're going to have some fun in traffic court. We're not asking for money from anyone, we just want the charges dropped, but we're not above wasting tax payers money for some idle entertainment (GM did it.)

Red light cameras FAIL! The one two blocks from my house has issued over 1500 tickets in 3 days since it was turned on. I was tagged sitting at a stop light in another county, but unsurprisingly the company that provides the equipment to both counties is the same.

This should be entertaining.

-D

The only flaw I can see in your plan: you do nothing to dissuade the company from shangheing other people with their scheme. Make it costly for them to do this, and they'll stop.

Other then that, I hope you keep us posted... Get a local paper reporter to come with you to the hearing, and get your story told. Then link it here.

If it looks like this guy does okay, my lawyer and I might go with a full court press.

New Window

Or we'll just contact his lawyer and see about creating a class action, either way the cameras here are both against state law and falsely tagging many people. Either way it's just part of the fun of living in Florida.

After a while you become numb to the sheer idiocy of this state.

-D

Blinxs: Cool story but how is the traffic lights going to know that I'm an important person with important places to be. How is it gonna know that my time is more valuable then everyone elses.

Just print off a mask of this guy's face and wear it while driving. These newfangled hightech traffic cameras will recognize your "face" and get you to the gym in under 26 minutes.

douchey xkcd comic

The fact that there's an xkcd for every douchey position possible just makes me hate xkcd all the more.

moothemagiccow: douchey xkcd comic

The fact that there's an xkcd for every douchey position possible just makes me hate xkcd all the more.

Hey, XKCD is far superior to those retarded dinosaur clipart "comics" that many Farkers seem to love so much.

UsikFark: DigitalCoffee: Solid State Vittles: The light was yellow, sir.

I bet these cops got SCMODS.

SCMODS?

State County Municipal Offender Data System.

moothemagiccow: The fact that there's an xkcd for every douchey position possible just makes me hate xkcd all the more.

I bet there's an XKCD for that!

untaken_name: UsikFark: DigitalCoffee: Solid State Vittles: The light was yellow, sir.

I bet these cops got SCMODS.

SCMODS?

State County Municipal Offender Data System.

It's okay. Last time I registered I gave them the address for Wrigley Field.

drayno76: Rohasman: drayno76: Three weeks ago I received 5 tickets that I apparently earned while sitting at a stop light for 60 seconds while it was red. My 'crime' failing to stop at a red light.

The funny thing is that the angle of the shot visible shows that my vehicle didn't move an inch during the 60 seconds and to make it even better it shows I was at least 4 feet away from the 'stop' line painted on the road.

I thought about being nice and taking it to the courthouse and showing them the 'duh!' Instead I called a friend of mine who's a lawyer, he's bored so we're going to have some fun in traffic court. We're not asking for money from anyone, we just want the charges dropped, but we're not above wasting tax payers money for some idle entertainment (GM did it.)

Red light cameras FAIL! The one two blocks from my house has issued over 1500 tickets in 3 days since it was turned on. I was tagged sitting at a stop light in another county, but unsurprisingly the company that provides the equipment to both counties is the same.

This should be entertaining.

-D

The only flaw I can see in your plan: you do nothing to dissuade the company from shangheing other people with their scheme. Make it costly for them to do this, and they'll stop.

Other then that, I hope you keep us posted... Get a local paper reporter to come with you to the hearing, and get your story told. Then link it here.

If it looks like this guy does okay, my lawyer and I might go with a full court press.

New Window

Or we'll just contact his lawyer and see about creating a class action, either way the cameras here are both against state law and falsely tagging many people. Either way it's just part of the fun of living in Florida.

After a while you become numb to the sheer idiocy of this state.

-D

Wow! I just read the full article on Rossenbergs case, I didn't know that he was dropping out of it. I guess we'll have to contact this Jason Weisser and find out exactly what he's doing. I'm not one to be a huge test case, but I'll piggy back off this guy. :D I'm too apathetic to actively sue people.

-D

mason4300: moothemagiccow: douchey xkcd comic

The fact that there's an xkcd for every douchey position possible just makes me hate xkcd all the more.

Hey, XKCD is far superior to those retarded dinosaur clipart "comics" that many Farkers seem to love so much.

And brown turds are better than green turds. What's your point?

moothemagiccow: mason4300: moothemagiccow: douchey xkcd comic

The fact that there's an xkcd for every douchey position possible just makes me hate xkcd all the more.

Hey, XKCD is far superior to those retarded dinosaur clipart "comics" that many Farkers seem to love so much.

And brown turds are better than green turds. What's your point?

Green turds smell worse?

UsikFark: untaken_name: UsikFark: DigitalCoffee: Solid State Vittles: The light was yellow, sir.

I bet these cops got SCMODS.

SCMODS?

State County Municipal Offender Data System.

It's okay. Last time I registered I gave them the address for Wrigley Field.

1060 West Addison? That's Wrigley Field.

/I know it doesn't fit but you broke character.

lol @ whoever posted the JFP, I carried on a 3-4 e-mail exchange with that idiot that culminated in him telling me that he had no beef whatsoever with people in southern California.

Started with him telling me that he needed "a dump truck for his jock strap" and ended with "Calm down, I'll never end up in Los Angeles for long anyway."

May have something to do with when I explained what happened to arrogant wealthy little pricks who ending up in wayward parts of Los Angeles... If they lived. He never responded to that one for some reason.

moothemagiccow: And brown turds are better than green turds. What's your point?


I dunno about that... green turds mean you've been eating your spinach.

Pink turds mean you've been drinking too much pink lemonade... I learned that the hard way.

KOOLmike: Epsilon: The only people I see complaining about this are those who run red lights (which there are many).

I've been driving in Vegas for 20 years. We have traffic cameras, sensors, and human observers via video cams. I've never had a red light ticket. You know why? Because I don't run red lights.

Is it that farking hard to figure out? If you don't want a ticket, don't run the light.

That's the very type of thinking that has ushered in and will continue to sustain this police state we're living in-- the old "If you're not doing anything wrong" mentality. These traffic laws don't keep you any safer. People will still run red lights, people will still speed, and people will still die in car accidents. All these cameras do is make it easier for the stinking government to suck more money away from otherwise honest folks. Is it so hard to deal with red light accidents on an individual basis? Oh wait, that would benefit regular Joes and the government wouldn't get their cut. I mean, why does the government or anyone else deserve money from someone if that someone hasn't hurt anyone or damaged property? Revenue-based law enforcement is just another form of tyranny and thievery on the part of government, and here folks who have nothing to gain from it are clamoring for it. Unbelievable.


I would like to say THIS, and raise one more thing. Notice how our rights are slowly turning into privileges? Soon, our privileges will be turned into citizen status.

mason4300




Separated at birth?

...there are four lights!!!!

dr_iacovone: KOOLmike: Epsilon: The only people I see complaining about this are those who run red lights (which there are many).

I've been driving in Vegas for 20 years. We have traffic cameras, sensors, and human observers via video cams. I've never had a red light ticket. You know why? Because I don't run red lights.

Is it that farking hard to figure out? If you don't want a ticket, don't run the light.

That's the very type of thinking that has ushered in and will continue to sustain this police state we're living in-- the old "If you're not doing anything wrong" mentality. These traffic laws don't keep you any safer. People will still run red lights, people will still speed, and people will still die in car accidents. All these cameras do is make it easier for the stinking government to suck more money away from otherwise honest folks. Is it so hard to deal with red light accidents on an individual basis? Oh wait, that would benefit regular Joes and the government wouldn't get their cut. I mean, why does the government or anyone else deserve money from someone if that someone hasn't hurt anyone or damaged property? Revenue-based law enforcement is just another form of tyranny and thievery on the part of government, and here folks who have nothing to gain from it are clamoring for it. Unbelievable.


I would like to say THIS, and raise one more thing. Notice how our rights are slowly turning into privileges? Soon, our privileges will be turned into citizen status.

Well, yeah. Gotta have a license to carry a gun, gotta get a permit to gather or demonstrate, there are more reasons why they can search you than can't, etc...

All of these things are allowed to persist because the populace is too divided to do anything about it. They've been duped into supporting this two-party system, which keeps half the people mad at the other half all the time instead of focusing their ire and scutiny on government as a whole.

SJKebab: There's quite a bit of organisation involved in getting old people to get in your way too.

Damn I miss that show

"Send out the Toyota Crowns!"

mason4300: moothemagiccow: Balanchine precision

Am I supposed to know what the fark this means? I don't remember this being on the SAT. Is Balanchine a character from CSI or some shiat?

Balanchine is a name. To the author...that word; I do not think it means what you think it means.

I thought he was using it to mean that traffic was choreographed to a high degree of carefulness and technique to ensure a smooth flow of movements and lack of jarring interruptions. Like the choreographer, probably most famous for the "Nutcracker" TV special in the '90s (I'm a boor, I know nothing else of ballet.)

drayno76: drayno76: Rohasman: drayno76: Three weeks ago I received 5 tickets that I apparently earned while sitting at a stop light for 60 seconds while it was red. My 'crime' failing to stop at a red light.

The funny thing is that the angle of the shot visible shows that my vehicle didn't move an inch during the 60 seconds and to make it even better it shows I was at least 4 feet away from the 'stop' line painted on the road.

I thought about being nice and taking it to the courthouse and showing them the 'duh!' Instead I called a friend of mine who's a lawyer, he's bored so we're going to have some fun in traffic court. We're not asking for money from anyone, we just want the charges dropped, but we're not above wasting tax payers money for some idle entertainment (GM did it.)

Red light cameras FAIL! The one two blocks from my house has issued over 1500 tickets in 3 days since it was turned on. I was tagged sitting at a stop light in another county, but unsurprisingly the company that provides the equipment to both counties is the same.

This should be entertaining.

-D

The only flaw I can see in your plan: you do nothing to dissuade the company from shangheing other people with their scheme. Make it costly for them to do this, and they'll stop.

Other then that, I hope you keep us posted... Get a local paper reporter to come with you to the hearing, and get your story told. Then link it here.

If it looks like this guy does okay, my lawyer and I might go with a full court press.

New Window

Or we'll just contact his lawyer and see about creating a class action, either way the cameras here are both against state law and falsely tagging many people. Either way it's just part of the fun of living in Florida.

After a while you become numb to the sheer idiocy of this state.

-D

Wow! I just read the full article on Rossenbergs case, I didn't know that he was dropping out of it. I guess we'll have to contact this Jason Weisser and find out exactly what he's doing. I'm not one to be a huge test case, but I'll piggy back off this guy. :D I'm too apathetic to actively sue people.

-D

What the fark is with all the hyphen initials?

-D

Do you think we can't already see the first letter in everyone's username so you need to remind us?

-D

Or are you just special.

-D

Rohasman: Get a local paper reporter to come with you to the hearing, and get your story told. Then link it here.

I agree, if that gets put in the news then other people can see they're not the only ones getting hit with the problem.

nytmare: drayno76: drayno76: Rohasman: drayno76: Three weeks ago I received 5 tickets that I apparently earned while sitting at a stop light for 60 seconds while it was red. My 'crime' failing to stop at a red light.

The funny thing is that the angle of the shot visible shows that my vehicle didn't move an inch during the 60 seconds and to make it even better it shows I was at least 4 feet away from the 'stop' line painted on the road.

I thought about being nice and taking it to the courthouse and showing them the 'duh!' Instead I called a friend of mine who's a lawyer, he's bored so we're going to have some fun in traffic court. We're not asking for money from anyone, we just want the charges dropped, but we're not above wasting tax payers money for some idle entertainment (GM did it.)

Red light cameras FAIL! The one two blocks from my house has issued over 1500 tickets in 3 days since it was turned on. I was tagged sitting at a stop light in another county, but unsurprisingly the company that provides the equipment to both counties is the same.

This should be entertaining.

-D

The only flaw I can see in your plan: you do nothing to dissuade the company from shangheing other people with their scheme. Make it costly for them to do this, and they'll stop.

Other then that, I hope you keep us posted... Get a local paper reporter to come with you to the hearing, and get your story told. Then link it here.

If it looks like this guy does okay, my lawyer and I might go with a full court press.

New Window

Or we'll just contact his lawyer and see about creating a class action, either way the cameras here are both against state law and falsely tagging many people. Either way it's just part of the fun of living in Florida.

After a while you become numb to the sheer idiocy of this state.

-D

Wow! I just read the full article on Rossenbergs case, I didn't know that he was dropping out of it. I guess we'll have to contact this Jason Weisser and find out exactly what he's doing. I'm not one to be a huge test case, but I'll piggy back off this guy. :D I'm too apathetic to actively sue people.

-D

What the fark is with all the hyphen initials?

-D

Do you think we can't already see the first letter in everyone's username so you need to remind us?

-D

Or are you just special.

-D


(insert Ric Romero pic)

"Some people sign off on their posts as a show of sincerity."

You may not know that loops of wire under the pavement at many intersections already note the passing of every car.

...and there used to be a time when the signals took into account that you were the ONLY FRIGGING CAR IN A 10 MILE RADIUS so you didn't sit in the left turn lane for a half an hour waiting for a green. But no, let's just have every intersection go through a 5 minute cycle and add a light at every single housing development entrance.

/Florida
//can take up to 45 minutes to drive 5 miles
///not f*cking kidding

Gaboo: You may not know that loops of wire under the pavement at many intersections already note the passing of every car.

...and there used to be a time when the signals took into account that you were the ONLY FRIGGING CAR IN A 10 MILE RADIUS so you didn't sit in the left turn lane for a half an hour waiting for a green. But no, let's just have every intersection go through a 5 minute cycle and add a light at every single housing development entrance.

/Florida
//can take up to 45 minutes to drive 5 miles
///not f*cking kidding

Sounds like it's time to go full d-bag and get a bike.

Blinking and flashing and beeping...

You've got three types of traffic signals. Timed, actuated and computer system controlled.

Timed signals are just that; they keep the green light on for a certain length of time for your road, then the other road gets the green for a length of time, then it repeats. Traffic doesn't matter, nothing does, it's on a timer.

Actuated means the signal has a minimum amount of time set for each approach leg; if a vehicle triggers the actuator (metal loop in the pavement), the signal checks if the minimum amount of time has run on the other road, and if it has, it switches the green to your road.

Computer controlled are the systems designed so that if you travel the speed limit down a road, in theory you should reach each signal as it turns green. Since you almost never can reach the speed limit in urban areas, though, that's why I said "in theory", and you get caught by a light changing to red. Actuators are at these intersections too but they send their data to the computer, which is monitoring traffic volumes and constantly revises how much "green time" each side gets depending on traffic levels. If traffic is heavy the computer gives more "green time" to that route at the expense of the other road, down to a minimum amount the other road may get.

Bendal: You've got three types of traffic signals. Timed, actuated and computer system controlled.

Timed signals are just that; they keep the green light on for a certain length of time for your road, then the other road gets the green for a length of time, then it repeats. Traffic doesn't matter, nothing does, it's on a timer.

Actuated means the signal has a minimum amount of time set for each approach leg; if a vehicle triggers the actuator (metal loop in the pavement), the signal checks if the minimum amount of time has run on the other road, and if it has, it switches the green to your road.

Computer controlled are the systems designed so that if you travel the speed limit down a road, in theory you should reach each signal as it turns green. Since you almost never can reach the speed limit in urban areas, though, that's why I said "in theory", and you get caught by a light changing to red. Actuators are at these intersections too but they send their data to the computer, which is monitoring traffic volumes and constantly revises how much "green time" each side gets depending on traffic levels. If traffic is heavy the computer gives more "green time" to that route at the expense of the other road, down to a minimum amount the other road may get.

Pretty much. I program the software that derives the fixed time plans in Britain. Most of the devil is in how you input the data to the program in the first place.

windsor114: Blinking and flashing and beeping...

"Sir! Those lights are blinking out of sequence!"