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2010-01-05 07:46:03 PM  
If there are no stereotypes in Australia about black people and fried chicken, then I don't think it is as bad as it looks.

Imagine the same commercial, but for Budweiser beer. Feeling out of place? Offer the people sitting around you some free beer. Then everything will be cool.

Granted, there's still some racist tones to it because the "awkwardness" is him sitting around a bunch of black people.
 
2010-01-05 07:48:43 PM  
PS, the Australian dollar is reasonably close to the USA dollar, so the price point makes me think it's not a 'shop.
 
2010-01-05 08:35:03 PM  
The odd thing is that it doesn't seem "awkward" to me at all. The black people around him are jammin' out, smiling, and don't seem to be in the least bit threatening.

Now, if they were all wearing Malcolm X shirts, holding a gun sideways and staring at him, THAT'd be awkward, and giving them fried chicken would only defuse the situation if it was accompanied with collard greens and purple drink.
 
2010-01-05 08:38:06 PM  

dahmers love zombie: The odd thing is that it doesn't seem "awkward" to me at all. The black people around him are jammin' out, smiling, and don't seem to be in the least bit threatening.

Now, if they were all wearing Malcolm X shirts, holding a gun sideways and staring at him, THAT'd be awkward, and giving them fried chicken would only defuse the situation if it was accompanied with collard greens and purple drink.


"What is juice, baby?"
 
2010-01-05 08:38:57 PM  

dahmers love zombie: holding a gun sideways and staring at him, THAT'd be awkward


I think that would make most black people feel awkward too.
 
2010-01-05 08:51:12 PM  
No, Australia is a land-of-plenty and certainly there is no racism to speak of. It's not even deserving of a wikipedia entry (new window)

We're just stupid, racist, american assholes. Nowhere else in the world has anyone EVER heard of the stereotype of black persons and fried chicken. How dare we be so presumptuous as to assume that our media and customs have disseminated throughout the entire western world?
 
2010-01-05 09:05:47 PM  

HotLonelyTeenageGirl: How dare we be so presumptuous as to assume that our media and customs have disseminated throughout the entire western world?


My initial post did not make this assumption. Still, I think if it were a Budweiser commercial with a white guy at an NFL game, it would still never get aired in the USA.
 
2010-01-05 09:07:46 PM  
What a bunch of out-of-context, fake outrage crapola.

There's nothing overtly racial about that ad. And the Australian audience it's aimed at would recognize it for what it is: A sports-themed commercial. It's even explained in one comment: The Cricket World Cup recently took place in the West Indies. This is no different than a NFL commercial featuring a fan sitting in a crowd of opposing fans. The CWC took place in the West Indies. There's your context. It's strictly meant for Australian consumption.

But hey, don't let that stop the American Culture of Outrage from gasping, pointing fingers, and painting this ad in the completely wrong, self-centered light.

It's not always about you, America.
 
2010-01-05 09:17:17 PM  

ambassador_ahab: HotLonelyTeenageGirl: How dare we be so presumptuous as to assume that our media and customs have disseminated throughout the entire western world?

My initial post did not make this assumption. Still, I think if it were a Budweiser commercial with a white guy at an NFL game, it would still never get aired in the USA.


I was referring to the article and its comments in the link. I mean, I thought it was somewhat funny. But the fact remains, why did they all have to be black? It couldn't have been a variety of races rooting for the opposing team when he breaks out the chicken? And lord knows how well the Aborigines have been treated in Australia.

Norad
There's nothing overtly racial about that ad. And the Australian audience it's aimed at would recognize it for what it is: A sports-themed commercial. It's even explained in one comment: The Cricket World Cup recently took place in the West Indies. This is no different than a NFL commercial featuring a fan sitting in a crowd of opposing fans. The CWC took place in the West Indies. There's your context. It's strictly meant for Australian consumption.

Have you spent a lot of time in the West Indies? I assure you that most West Indians do not find white tourists funny or amusing, and if you walked up to a group of them at a sporting event and whipped out a bucket of chicken, saying "HAY GUYZ" you are likely to be stabbed.
 
2010-01-05 09:25:45 PM  

HotLonelyTeenageGirl: Nowhere else in the world has anyone EVER heard of the stereotype of black persons and fried chicken.


Let me wipe the sarcasm that's dripping off your statement there. Huh, you know what? The fried chicken stereotype IS an American phenomenon.

Comment FTA: "I don't think the stereotype of black people loving fried chicken is popular anywhere but the USA, this ad would be pretty harmless in another country.

Wikipedia: "While acknowledged positively as soul food in the modern age by many, the affinity that African American culture has for fried chicken has been considered a delicate, often pejorative issue; While still present, this perception has been fading for several decades with the ubiquitous nature of fried chicken dishes in the US and a gradual aging and dull acceptation of this stereotype. Citation (^)

I suppose once another country or culture hears about an American stereotype they always, instantly adopt it as their own. But I really, really doubt it. This ad is by Australians, for Australians. You think KFC would have signed off on this otherwise? Get farking lucid.

But like I said, don't let facts stop the faux outrage from flowing.
 
2010-01-05 09:32:39 PM  

Norad: Let me wipe the sarcasm that's dripping off your statement there.


I don't think that was sarcasm. I think that person was being serious.

Still, I think it would play better in the USA if it were just people around him rooting for the other team (doesn't matter what sport/team, we'd get the point.) Not by race; he's just the only guy in the crowd rooting for the opposition.
 
2010-01-05 09:38:01 PM  

Norad: words words words.


Like most people of all races, I find fried chicken delicious. But you are being purposefully obtuse.
 
2010-01-05 09:44:18 PM  

HotLonelyTeenageGirl: But you are being purposefully obtuse.


Obtuse? Why? Because I don't view everything I see through a narrow, strictly American racial prism as you apparently are?

Read the article. I've read a few other articles about this ad. The only outrage about this ad is coming from....SURPRISE! Outraged Americans.

And that's not obtuse. That's knee-jerk ignorance.
 
2010-01-05 09:45:16 PM  
BTW: I am not rounded at the free ends.
 
2010-01-05 09:50:32 PM  

Norad: HotLonelyTeenageGirl: But you are being purposefully obtuse.

Obtuse? Why? Because I don't view everything I see through a narrow, strictly American racial prism as you apparently are?

Read the article. I've read a few other articles about this ad. The only outrage about this ad is coming from....SURPRISE! Outraged Americans.

And that's not obtuse. That's knee-jerk ignorance.


Oh god, I'm having such a hard time hearing you over the sound of your bleeding vagina.
 
2010-01-05 09:51:19 PM  

Norad: HotLonelyTeenageGirl: But you are being purposefully obtuse.

Obtuse? Why? Because I don't view everything I see through a narrow, strictly American racial prism as you apparently are?

Read the article. I've read a few other articles about this ad. The only outrage about this ad is coming from....SURPRISE! Outraged Americans.

And that's not obtuse. That's knee-jerk ignorance.


You raise some good points, but don't you think an American company should be a little more careful in what advertising they sign off on, regardless of where it airs? The ad may not be viewed as racist in Australia, but KFC customers in the United States clearly will view this differently.

KFC may have been able to get away this ad a few years ago, but in the YouTube/viral video age, this is going to be nothing but a PR nightmare.
 
2010-01-05 09:59:15 PM  

mjoven1975: KFC may have been able to get away this ad a few years ago, but in the YouTube/viral video age, this is going to be nothing but a PR nightmare.


Yeah, I suppose that's true. What a biatch for KFC.
 
2010-01-05 10:01:29 PM  

mjoven1975: in the YouTube/viral video age, this is going to be nothing but a PR nightmare.


This is my prediction. I'm not saying its wrong or right. Just that it seems like some people in America, not understanding the context, will be very pissed off.
 
2010-01-05 10:29:20 PM  
Blacks EVERYWHERE love fried chicken?

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2010-01-05 10:31:58 PM  

Hollywood Cole: Blacks EVERYWHERE love fried chicken?


I'm white and I love fried chicken. I didn't even know it was considered a "black people thing" until I was 15 or so.
 
2010-01-05 10:32:23 PM  

ambassador_ahab: mjoven1975: in the YouTube/viral video age, this is going to be nothing but a PR nightmare.

This is my prediction. I'm not saying its wrong or right. Just that it seems like some people in America, not understanding the context, will be very pissed off.


I wouldn't pretend to know what would be deemed offensive in Australia, but I do know that plenty of Americans will freak out over this. I just don't understand how an American company (Yum! Brands I believe) signs off on this ad when it was bound to eventually wind up on YouTube. Oh well, it's their problem.
 
2010-01-05 10:35:28 PM  

ambassador_ahab: Hollywood Cole: Blacks EVERYWHERE love fried chicken?

I'm white and I love fried chicken. I didn't even know it was considered a "black people thing" until I was 15 or so.


I know. I love it too. Popeye's especially. I didn't know about it until a Chris Rock Special.
 
2010-01-05 10:39:22 PM  
Awkward black people? Like Steve Urkel?
 
2010-01-05 10:40:06 PM  
I was lonelier than Kunta Kintay at a Merle Haggard concert that night...
 
2010-01-05 10:41:03 PM  
rofl....hahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

you guys.
 
2010-01-05 10:41:10 PM  
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2010-01-05 10:41:23 PM  

mjoven1975: Yum! Brands I believe


Yep. I think they also own Taco Bell and Pizza Hut (maybe others too, but those 3 are the ones I'm fairly certain about.)
 
2010-01-05 10:41:38 PM  
Did you also know that all black people drink water. What strange tendencies they have.

/Chicken is good. Everyone likes it.
//Except the vegetarians
 
2010-01-05 10:41:51 PM  
Since he's surrounded by Jamaicans, he would have been better off sharing some Red Stripe and jerk chicken....and a doobie.
 
2010-01-05 10:41:52 PM  
BTW when did fark become self-aware and racist.

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WTF? Are they awkward black people?
 
2010-01-05 10:42:53 PM  
The black fellas in Oz prefer Witchetty grubs and roast goana
 
2010-01-05 10:43:46 PM  
ALL southern people love fried chicken. Black folks (having lived in the south), took their love of fried chicken wherever they moved.

But honestly, who DOESN'T love fried chicken? I should weigh 200 instead of 105 from it...nom nom nom....
 
2010-01-05 10:44:07 PM  

titwrench: I was lonelier than Kunta Kintay at a Merle Haggard concert that night...


I had picked up this hitchhiker that was sweatin' gallons
through a pair of Daisy Duke cut-offs and one of those Fruit Of The Loom tank-tops.
Well, that night I lost myself to ruby red lips,
milky white skin and baby blue eyes.
Name was Russell.
 
2010-01-05 10:44:23 PM  

ambassador_ahab: mjoven1975: in the YouTube/viral video age, this is going to be nothing but a PR nightmare.

This is my prediction. I'm not saying its wrong or right. Just that it seems like some people in America, not understanding the context, will be very pissed off.


So you are predicting that black people will stop eating KFC?
 
2010-01-05 10:45:56 PM  

cauth002: ALL southern people love fried chicken. Black folks (having lived in the south), took their love of fried chicken wherever they moved.

But honestly, who DOESN'T love fried chicken? I should weigh 200 instead of 105 from it...nom nom nom....



"If you don't fried chicken and watermelon, there's something wrong with you." - Chris Rock

/That's the farking truth.
 
2010-01-05 10:46:09 PM  

Norad: It's not always about you, America.


Ummmm, you do realize you're American, right?

So yeah, pretending you're somehow above it all and separate from American culture just make you look like a douche.

Hope that helps.
 
2010-01-05 10:46:15 PM  
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Boy, that is awkward.
 
2010-01-05 10:46:23 PM  

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: So you are predicting that black people will stop eating KFC?


I don't have a clue. I love fried chicken but I'm not a huge KFC fan. So I don't really have a good racial baseline of my local KFC for a good comparison. I'll have to get back to you on that one.
 
2010-01-05 10:46:25 PM  
I find the "awkward" thing more awkward than offering fried chicken. I think everyone who has had it agrees that good fried chicken is farking delicious and to be hoarded and not shared to anyone because fark them this is my fried chicken.

/Not that KFC is really good
//I think this was just a badly done commercial
///yes, yes, I sound fat
 
2010-01-05 10:46:35 PM  
Ahh....the Big Chicken in Marietta. Makes me wanna move back to Cobb County. Not.

Hey, no images of the "That's racist!" kid?
 
2010-01-05 10:46:40 PM  
I know that black people like me because they call me MISTER Charlie. I love chicken and watermelon.
 
2010-01-05 10:46:53 PM  

The_Sponge: titwrench: I was lonelier than Kunta Kintay at a Merle Haggard concert that night...

I had picked up this hitchhiker that was sweatin' gallons
through a pair of Daisy Duke cut-offs and one of those Fruit Of The Loom tank-tops.
Well, that night I lost myself to ruby red lips,
milky white skin and baby blue eyes.
Name was Russell.


Oh a lap damce is soooo much betterrr when the stripper is cryin.....
 
2010-01-05 10:47:12 PM  
oh man, kidsized coffin, you made me choke on my popcorn!
 
2010-01-05 10:47:21 PM  
As an Australian, I can confirm that Aussies are not familiar with US black stereotypes beyond the rapper/gangster motiff.

There was an interesting occurence back in 1978 when Muhammed Ali appeared at an Australian awards show and one of the Aussie presenters said "I like the boy"

Hilarity ensued.
 
2010-01-05 10:47:39 PM  

Norad: What a bunch of out-of-context, fake outrage crapola.

There's nothing overtly racial about that ad. And the Australian audience it's aimed at would recognize it for what it is: A sports-themed commercial. It's even explained in one comment: The Cricket World Cup recently took place in the West Indies. This is no different than a NFL commercial featuring a fan sitting in a crowd of opposing fans. The CWC took place in the West Indies. There's your context. It's strictly meant for Australian consumption.

But hey, don't let that stop the American Culture of Outrage from gasping, pointing fingers, and painting this ad in the completely wrong, self-centered light.

It's not always about you, America.


Americans aren't really familiar with the concept of 'Home' and 'Away' sections, which are the norm in most of them 'Furren games.

I was prepared to be outraged, but here's how I took it:

The fact that the guys white only highlights the fact that he's in the middle of the West Indies version of The Dogpound:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T-89mT_Eyo
 
2010-01-05 10:47:49 PM  
Maybe KFC shouldn't sponsor the West Indies cricket team either, because they're just perpetuating stereotypes? Or would purposely not sponsoring them also be racist?
 
2010-01-05 10:47:50 PM  

cauth002: ut honestly, who DOESN'T love fried chicken? I should weigh 200 instead of 105 from it...nom nom nom....


I can't stand it anymore. I'm gonna go eat some fried chicken right now.
 
2010-01-05 10:48:43 PM  
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2010-01-05 10:49:01 PM  
I can't even eat "chain" fried chicken anymore. I ate at Stroud's in KC once - it was incredible - and now KFC, Popeye's and Church's all make me sick. I have to cook my own now.
 
2010-01-05 10:49:20 PM  
Comming from austrlia, I can explain the reference.

this isnt a white guy scared of black people, it is an austraian supporter being out of place amongst oposition supporters (who happen to be black). Who0 to fit in shares his food. Its not rasist its actually quite the opposite. Someone shares food with those supporting their opponents in a sporting competition.

As stated above. It relates to the cricket world cup (Were world cup actually means competing against other countries). the australian and west indian fans are both pationate (sp?)

The fried chicken thing, most of Australia wouldn't have heard of ITS AN AMERICAN STEREOTYPE.
 
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