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Heffaloo

2010-01-04 09:12:36 PM

Personally, I don't consider myself butthurt. I would,however, like to have stories and characterizations worth a damn in best picture nominees. Just being pretty shouldn't be enough.

RannyGazoo

2010-01-04 09:54:50 PM

It's no Titanic (new window). That film had depth. And boobies.

/human boobies

Nemo's Brother

2010-01-04 10:33:59 PM

I seldom like the actual winner of Best Picture. Can't get excited enough to see Avatar, but I bet at least a few Best Picture winners this decade are worse.

The English Major

2010-01-04 10:35:20 PM

oh no it went green

Total Morselization

2010-01-04 10:36:23 PM

Because the Oscars alter reality, lessening your enjoyment of films that do not win Best Picture.

gunga galunga

2010-01-04 10:36:29 PM

Why the hell do people get butthurt about any movie being nominatied/not being nominated for that annual Hollywood circle jerk?

nmrsnr

2010-01-04 10:39:39 PM

Possibly because they feel that "best picture" should encompass the feature as a whole, and not one particular aspect of it. That's what the individual awards are for.

/But I think subby knows this.

Galactic_Empanada

2010-01-04 10:39:46 PM

I have a cat named Oscar.

Commander Salamander

2010-01-04 10:40:24 PM

I don't think anyone will argue that Avatar has anything other than a cliche plot, but for me the visual beauty of the film was an experience unlike any I've ever had in a movie theater. For that alone I would give this movie best picture.

dogette

2010-01-04 10:40:26 PM

Let's get this out of the way: Yes I saw the movie and enjoyed it but not for the story because I am very well read and intelligent and so the story line and characters were predictable and I am not impressed or saying I enjoyed that at all but the visuals were a great buffet yes eye candy and I like pretty.

/don't forget -- storyline, me, not impressed

Zombie Hitler

2010-01-04 10:40:30 PM

Who is butthurt? Seems as if people on Fark either enjoyed it, were disappointed in the story or didn't want to see it at all.

Wasilla Hillbilly

2010-01-04 10:41:22 PM

My neighbor threatened to rape me in the ass if Avatar is nominated for best picture.

limboslam

2010-01-04 10:41:41 PM

Butt hurts.

SauceIT

2010-01-04 10:41:42 PM

Because it alreay one 7 academy awards in 1990 when it was called Dances With Wolves. Cameron did a great job with the CGI and 3D but thats it. The story was a thin rip off. It will be like Jurassic Park winning all sorts of technical awards.

Sam Worthington's character is roughly the same as in Terminator Salvation. I guy who spends the whole movie slowly waking up. Lame.

FuzzyLynx

2010-01-04 10:42:30 PM

RannyGazoo: It's no Titanic (new window). That film had depth. And boobies.

/human boobies

Titanic had depth, yes - the depth of a freaking ocean. Seriously, it was a love story on a sinking ship. You KNEW how it was going to end simply by the title of it.

dajoro

2010-01-04 10:42:53 PM

Avatar doesn't deserve a nomination, let alone the win. Little things like story, dialogue, acting - they should mean something.

If that's you're idea of the best movie of the year, you must be 11.

GoHomeAndGetYourShinebox

2010-01-04 10:44:06 PM

Avatar fanboys cling to their victimhood as annoyingly as modern Republicans. Look, most sensible people agree that Avatar is an entertaining moviegoing experience for its groundbreaking visuals, yet is lacking in depth and characterization. Some think the technical achievement is worthy of Best Picture honors, while others disagree. But stop acting like persecuted farking pansies because not everybody loves your little flick as much as you do.

TheSignPost

2010-01-04 10:44:51 PM

omg dances with smurfs my bffjill

Who cares? It's becaus people care this much about stupid sh*t that people continue to make cr@p movies. If everyone would just chill out a bit and become a little more discerning as an audience, movies would have to get better, in order to meet the demand.

Right now we demand nothing more than big budget, and boobies.

/ don't get me wrong, i love money and boobies
// but money isn't everything
/// boobies, obviously, are

WFern

2010-01-04 10:44:52 PM

Nemo's Brother: I seldom like the actual winner of Best Picture. Can't get excited enough to see Avatar, but I bet at least a few Best Picture winners this decade are worse.

Same, although I was giddy with excitement when No Country for Old Men won that award a couple years ago. It was well deserved for a change.

JerseyTim

2010-01-04 10:45:05 PM

They picked the wrong year to expand to 10 nominees. What a weak crop this year.

zabadu

2010-01-04 10:45:05 PM

Heffaloo: Personally, I don't consider myself butthurt. I would,however, like to have stories and characterizations worth a damn in best picture nominees. Just being pretty shouldn't be enough.

Because the Oscars are about ACTING, not CGI.

Wombatzu

2010-01-04 10:45:19 PM

Zombie Hitler: Who is butthurt? Seems as if people on Fark either enjoyed it, were disappointed in the story or didn't want to see it at all.

there seems to be a small group that got left on the Avatar-hate bandwagon, and they try as hard as they can to get everyone back on, when most people who have actually seen the movie ended up having a good time despite the fact that the script was not written by Charlie Kaufman or something.

SauceIT

2010-01-04 10:45:25 PM

grrr I'm so tired...

Because it already won...

A guy... damnit

/Typing FAIL
//please, no ass raping. thanks

walrusonion

2010-01-04 10:45:57 PM

Hugo frowns on these shenanigans

AiryAnne

2010-01-04 10:46:06 PM

Is it worth watching at home on a 40" flat screen? If not, no point in seeing it in theater, even if it is a marvel of technology or whatever.

I need story.

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener

2010-01-04 10:46:06 PM

Don't blame me.

I voted for Crank: High Voltage.

Dinobot

2010-01-04 10:47:02 PM

Gyrfalcon

2010-01-04 10:50:07 PM

My apathy is just beyond palpable at this point.

Kyro

2010-01-04 10:52:08 PM

TFA: Here are three others that deserve that prize more than Cameron's Folly.

DISTRICT 9

Haha. No.

Techhell

2010-01-04 10:55:24 PM

nmrsnr: Possibly because they feel that "best picture" should encompass the feature as a whole, and not one particular aspect of it. That's what the individual awards are for.

/But I think subby knows this.

The individual awards are for metaphorical masturbation. Nothing more. It's an exercise in who's most popular, who's paid their dues, who would be cutest pre-teen to give a Best Supporting Actress award to, to the actor/director who makes the kinds of movies that can only afford to put two extra words in their advertising, and so want those two words to be "Oscar winning" ("From the Oscar winner director who brought you (insert new "It's only playing in New York and Los Angeles? But Ebert had an orgasm over it!")), or actors who are the equivalent of the last kid chosen in Dodgeball; eventually, they'll get their award simply for having lived long enough to make people feel guilty.

But the idea that the individual awards (or ANY of the awards) are for the best anything? Yeah, no. Not unless that "Best" is best metaphorical cack sucking. Then, I'd have to agree that it's the "Best" something.

/Liked Avatar. Good movie.
//Meh plot. No worse than 95% of the crap that passes as entertainment from Hollywood each year.
///Hope it wins Best Picture just so movie snobs can fill up thousands of gig's of server memories with their emo whining.

Wasilla Hillbilly

2010-01-04 10:55:25 PM

Kyro: TFA: Here are three others that deserve that prize more than Cameron's Folly.

DISTRICT 9

Haha. No.

District 9 is certainly one of, if not the best, movie of 09. I also liked Hangover.

Procedural Texture

2010-01-04 10:55:59 PM

It's not like an Academy Award for "Best Picture" actually means a movie is any good.

Like a vote-whoring cliche photoshopper, sometimes Best Pictures are just pandering to the trends and sentiments of the day. "Best Picture" therefore often means quite the opposite.

MissyLissy

2010-01-04 10:59:37 PM

Because both Memento and The Dark Knight were better films, and neither film was nominated for best picture.

Total Morselization

2010-01-04 10:59:53 PM

Gyrfalcon: My apathy is just beyond palpable at this point.

I have that tattooed around my neck.

Bathia_Mapes

2010-01-04 11:00:03 PM

thalassatx

2010-01-04 11:00:31 PM

I'm good with them giving WETA every special effect award ever invented, and maybe inventing some new ones for them. That movie was incredibly beautiful.

But the storyline was complete crap, ripped off from half a dozen other movies, and I also found it to be incredibly offensive on a couple of fronts.

It doesn't deserve to be nominated for Best Picture.

Bad Dad Why

2010-01-04 11:00:44 PM

Ferngully deserves one also.

gunga galunga

2010-01-04 11:00:55 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: Kyro: TFA: Here are three others that deserve that prize more than Cameron's Folly.

DISTRICT 9

Haha. No.

District 9 is certainly one of, if not the best, movie of 09. I also liked Hangover.

District 9 was a total ripoff of the John Landis segment of the Twilight Zone movie. It's sad to see the lemming kneejerk fanboys so predictably duped into thinking that's a good movie. It's a travesty that they're still allowed to watch movies.

/by reacting negatively to this post, you responding poster fully admits that he or she is indeed "butthurt"
//hahahahaha...
///why so butthurt?

bighasbeen

2010-01-04 11:02:34 PM

I shouldn't be tired of the Best Picture when it is less than 40% finished.

But put me in the "Oscars don't really mean anything" category.

bighasbeen

2010-01-04 11:04:27 PM

gunga galunga: District 9 was a total ripoff of the John Landis segment of the Twilight Zone movie.

Everything in Sci-Fi was done by 1959, and everything after that is a rip-off. Everyone knows this.

Wasilla Hillbilly

2010-01-04 11:06:57 PM

gunga galunga: Wasilla Hillbilly: Kyro: TFA: Here are three others that deserve that prize more than Cameron's Folly.

DISTRICT 9

Haha. No.

District 9 is certainly one of, if not the best, movie of 09. I also liked Hangover.

District 9 was a total ripoff of the John Landis segment of the Twilight Zone movie. It's sad to see the lemming kneejerk fanboys so predictably duped into thinking that's a good movie. It's a travesty that they're still allowed to watch movies.

/by reacting negatively to this post, you responding poster fully admits that he or she is indeed "butthurt"
//hahahahaha...
///why so butthurt?

I just liked the movie was all I was getting at.

Robo Beat

2010-01-04 11:09:34 PM

RannyGazoo: It's no Titanic (new window). That film had depth. And boobies.

/human boobies

Kate Winslet's most excellent human boobies, no less.

austerity101

2010-01-04 11:10:12 PM

I dunno about butthurt, but as it has been expressed here already, it would seem to me that Best Picture nominees should be of high quality in all aspects of film-making. From what I've read, the move is a technical tour-de-force, but seems to be little else. Isn't it rather cheap to say a movie is one of the best made of the year when it only excels in one area?

WFern

2010-01-04 11:11:28 PM

MissyLissy: Because both Memento and The Dark Knight were better films, and neither film was nominated for best picture.

Hell, Pan's Labyrinth should've won Best Picture in 2006, but only acquired three lesser awards for visuals. It wasn't even nominated for the big one.

Any Pie Left

2010-01-04 11:11:58 PM

As if the Oscars were a reliable judge of movie quality. Who gives a fark. Like it, don't like it, see it, don't see it. The Academy Awards are an elaborate political game that only occasionally aligns it's judgments with reality.

Avatar was better than the Trek movie. Zoe Saldana is in both. I hope she wins an Oscar for her job in Avatar, really, her portrayal was astounding. If she doesn't win, it doesn't reduce my enjoyment of the film, though.

Steve Zodiac

2010-01-04 11:13:22 PM

Bad Dad Why: Ferngully deserves one also.

You sure you don't mean Dances with Wolves? Or Pocahontas? Or The Last Samurai? Or any other film that Avatar's story has been compared to-slash-accused of ripping off?

Go back and look at the winners of the Best Film Oscar since, oh, lets say 1970. Lots of good films, and lots of 'WTF were they smoking' winners. Most of the WTF's were 'artsy' films, or politically correct ones. If this one wins, at least you will know it wasn't for it's average story but instead for it's ground-breaking visuals. Yes, I know there are already awards for cinematography and special effects, but there probably has not been something so game changing put out in the last 20 years. If this film wins at least it's a film that you will remember 10 years from now, unlike a lot of previous 'winners'.

gunga galunga

2010-01-04 11:13:51 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: gunga galunga: Wasilla Hillbilly: Kyro: TFA: Here are three others that deserve that prize more than Cameron's Folly.

DISTRICT 9

Haha. No.

District 9 is certainly one of, if not the best, movie of 09. I also liked Hangover.

District 9 was a total ripoff of the John Landis segment of the Twilight Zone movie. It's sad to see the lemming kneejerk fanboys so predictably duped into thinking that's a good movie. It's a travesty that they're still allowed to watch movies.

/by reacting negatively to this post, you responding poster fully admits that he or she is indeed "butthurt"
//hahahahaha...
///why so butthurt?

I just liked the movie was all I was getting at.

Oh, don't let my snark fool you. I enjoyed it, too. I just find it funny that many of the same criticisms that the D9 fans lob at Avatar can also apply to their beloved movie as well.

"It's soooo stupid. All James Cameron did was take Dances With Wolves and replace the indians with aliens. What a hack! Unlike the genius of Neil Blomkamp, who took the apartheid situation in Johannasburg and replace with oppressed black people with aliens. What a visionary!"

Harry_Seldon

2010-01-04 11:14:47 PM

I am still stewing on Jack Nicholson not getting a nomination for his portrayal of the Joker.

Procedural Texture

2010-01-04 11:18:31 PM

Steve Zodiac: Yes, I know there are already awards for cinematography and special effects, but there probably has not been something so game changing put out in the last 20 years.

Sure, and that's why The Phantom Menace should've won Best Picture.
I'm joking, of course.

www.the-reel-mccoy.com

_{/enjoyed the prequels
//will go see JaJarvatar soon enough}

shower_in_my_socks

2010-01-04 11:18:38 PM

The film has changed the industry forever. The Oscars are judged by history. Sometimes they get it wrong and sometimes they get it right. In this case, to not give Avatar an Best Picture nod would ensure that future movie watchers looked back and shook they're heads in disbelief over how blind industry insiders were to the direction their own industry was moving. To me, it's like Star Wars not winning Best Picture. Annie Hall was good, but the category should be dominated by industry-changing films whenever they come around.

To ignore Avatar would be even worse than them ignoring The Dark Knight for Best Picture.

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