Can't we just watch the Saldana footage without the CGI overlay?

Aint a single bristle of fur on Pandora.

Asa Phelps: Aint a single bristle of fur on Pandora.

I noticed that also. I wonder if that was done with some sort of scientific explanation in mind, or if it was a choice to make the CGI easier.

I actually was surprised that the Na'vi didn't sync up during that scene, I thought it was a shortcoming because I expected that. I didn't realize it actually had something to do with getting a PG-13 rating.

After Saldana explained the USB cable in their tails, I immediately figured the eventual PG-13 sex scene between Jake and her would feature the two of them linking their tails together, surprised when it didn't happen. Knew it'd be in the deleted scenes, lol. Guess you can't put anything past the MPAA, whether it's "motions" or "suggestive usage of magical tails" or whatever.

I'm annoyed by this movie and I haven't even seen it yet.

IrateShadow: DamnYankees: I noticed that also. I wonder if that was done with some sort of scientific explanation in mind, or if it was a choice to make the CGI easier.

It was probably to show off. Really authentic looking skin is much harder to render than really authentic looking fur.

Actually, I'd say it's the other way around. That's why so many CG characters are bald or have very short hair. Animating hair or fur takes up loads of processing power, since it has to render each individual hair.

So they would be link their tails or whatever and feel each other having sex?

DamnYankees: Can't we just watch the Saldana footage without the CGI overlay?

I want this.

Jake: "Aw, come on, Neytiri... I'm gettin' blue balls here."
Neytiri: "...how can you tell?"

Dark Mortainius: IrateShadow: DamnYankees: I noticed that also. I wonder if that was done with some sort of scientific explanation in mind, or if it was a choice to make the CGI easier.

It was probably to show off. Really authentic looking skin is much harder to render than really authentic looking fur.

Actually, I'd say it's the other way around. That's why so many CG characters are bald or have very short hair. Animating hair or fur takes up loads of processing power, since it has to render each individual hair.

Disagree with the disagreement. Sure, fur is harder to render, but it's much easier to make it look real. Slapping fur on a character obscures the muscle movements, skin puckering, etc. that happens with movement. It can convincingly hide rigging errors and plastic skin texture.

Skin on its own is much harder. First is the texture: companies have a hard time getting the spec map right, so it's very easy to make it look too shiny or too dull. Then there's the fact that you can see tendon and muscle movements through it. A lot of games, movies, etc. look cartoony because people just inflate the muscles all the time (like in a comic book), but muscles actually work in opposing pairs. The skin stretches over these volumes. Fat jiggles. etc. We're hard-wired to know how these things work even if we don't actively notice them.

The Hulk was a movie that tried to push the muscle movement to a new level. LotR tried to do the same. Avatar pushed it even further.

If they'd covered the creatures with hair, those subtle movements would have been lost.

GreenAdder: Jake: "Aw, come on, Neytiri... I'm gettin' blue balls here."
Neytiri: "...how can you tell?"

So... if Avatar Jake experiences orgasm, does his body back on base need new underwear?

Man, the one included in the movie was already awkward enough. It was like they recreated the 300 sex scene in a PG-13 context through a blue filter and didn't even do the obvious "plug tails together like Demolition Man" thing.

Uncle Pooky: Plus, the skin was blue and had glowing dots - so they weren't exactly shooting for "realism".

There's nothing unrealistic about that, actually. Both make scientific sense if you read the backstory (not that the average person would).

Quasar: Man, the one included in the movie was already awkward enough. It was like they recreated the 300 sex scene in a PG-13 context through a blue filter and didn't even do the obvious "plug tails together like Demolition Man" thing.

Heh. I instantly compared the coughing, chair-squeaking and giggling going on in the theater between those two right after I walked out of Avatar.

theorellior: GreenAdder: Jake: "Aw, come on, Neytiri... I'm gettin' blue balls here."
Neytiri: "...how can you tell?"

So... if Avatar Jake experiences orgasm, does his body back on base need new underwear?

No, he's paralyzed.

Anyone notice what a Mary Sue he was? "Nobody has ever [X] before," or "nobody has [X] in a long time."

"Oh, yeah? Well, I'm Jake Sully, captain of the SS Awesome. Watch me do just that!" No wonder he winds up schtooping her. It's what James Cameron wanted to do, so Jake does it.

GreenAdder: It's what James Cameron wanted to do, so Jake does it.

James Cameron loves creating strong, independent, fierce, capable female characters... and then having them break all to pieces and submit to some guy.

No wonder he's been married and divorced like 4 times.

mjohnson71: I'm just waiting for the look on his face when ex-wife number 3 (director Kathryn Bigelow) wins the Academy Award for "The Hurt Locker".

I really want to see that movie.

Also, I liked Strange Days more than anything James Cameron has put out.

Na'vi?

"Hey! Listen! Hey! Listen!"

Fano: GreenAdder: Na'vi?

"Hey! Listen! Hey! Listen!"

NSFW NAVI (new window)

must... not... click...

humor... is... no... excuse...

Oh! I had the hardest time understanding why this movie was so damn popular, but it makes perfect sense now.

It's mainstream furry porn. No wonder it has a huge FARK following.