Just imaging what repeated roundhouse kicks to the face may yield...

Water is wet...

/dodges

DONT YOU DARE TOUCH MY PRECIOUS SNOWFLAKE!

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I'm living proof!

I definitely would have turned out better if I were beaten more as a kid.

signed,
my dad

So if I waterboard my kids, will they become super-workers?

"I've DONE everything a mother can do: I've locked her in her room, I've beat her with the car aerial. Nothing changes her. It's HARD being a loving mother!" - Dawn Davenport

Let me go get my belt.

Except for the flashbacks and impotent rage thing, sure.

Kids are like dogs. Hitting them will achieve obedience, but you can get better results by subcontracting the discipline out to some ponce from the educational channels.

Beating your kids may produce some results, but it's nowhere near as effective as the more difficult alternative, setting a good example.

unlikely tag? how about obvious

Picture of child cowering in corner goes here___________________

As someone who was hit up until I was 15 I farking hate the old man even till today but I did pretty well in school.

So I guess the moral of the story is find a happy medium.

Kumana Wanalaia: Beating your kids may produce some results, but it's nowhere near as effective as the more difficult alternative, setting a good example.

Bwahahahahhahaha!!!!!!

Oh for f*ck's sake, you can't reason with a child. Smack them in the ass and be done with it.

I don't think it's so . In fact, I think it's . Obviously there are limits - smacking a baby that doesn't know why it's being smacked isn't going to help, smacking a kid two or three days after the incident occurred isn't going to help - but if they associated "being bad" with "getting hurt" then they're going to stop being bad a lot sooner than if the only reaction they ever get from their parents is "Adam, stop that. Stop that, Adam" ad nauseum. And no, there will be no flashbacks. (There may be impotent rage, but that's part of the point.)

The difference between fear and respect is not a subtle one, but it is very important in parenting.

If to you parenting simply means manufacturing consent through force, then please get castrated/have a cork installed in your vag. Same goes for parents with no boundaries. Moderation, people, moderation.

Got a thumpin
Einstein, JFK
Got a timeout in the corner
Harris, Klebold
Weak I know but just saying

Wasn't there just a thread in the past couple of days about how damaging it was to discipline your kids physically?

Unlikely?

So, having, you know, discipline makes you more successful, and this is unlikely?

Nice one, subby.

xenovalent: I don't think it's so . In fact, I think it's . Obviously there are limits - smacking a baby that doesn't know why it's being smacked isn't going to help, smacking a kid two or three days after the incident occurred isn't going to help - but if they associated "being bad" with "getting hurt" then they're going to stop being bad a lot sooner than if the only reaction they ever get from their parents is "Adam, stop that. Stop that, Adam" ad nauseum. And no, there will be no flashbacks. (There may be impotent rage, but that's part of the point.)

Why resort to physical violence when harsh tones work just as well? At that rate you're just taking out your adult frustrations on a child, and are acting childlike yourself.

1. request
2. reason
3. non phys discipline/threat
4. ass beating


in that order

I got beat when I was a kid, only when I deserved it, never thought I did when I happened, but looking back at what I did now, they showed a lot of restraint.

Kumana Wanalaia: Beating your kids may produce some results, but it's nowhere near as effective as the more difficult alternative, setting a good example.

Well, if you are gonna talk that crazy shiat, GTFO.

It was interesting to note that 1) the one thing "smacked up" kids were NOT good at was refraining from fighting. No shiat. They learned the violence is how people settle stuff. and 2) kids that were still getting smacked around were doing worse.

I got the snot smacked out of me as a kid, and it didn't make me a better person. I was a mild little kid, and my parents were just frustrated people. It made me paranoid.

ad hoc: 1. request
2. reason
3. non phys discipline/threat
4. ass beating


in that order

This.

I think that its very important to teach children early that violence is the most appropriate way to react if you want someone to behave the way you want them to.

I'm fine.

FINE.

So what if I haven't seen my dad in 15 years?

My kid has been spanked twice in his 10 years...I couldn't ask for better kidlet. I was rotten and lived an after school special. I'll go with what works, thanks.

HERO tag ?

/get off my lawn

Parents who use corporal punishment regularly on their children are lazy, and are doing society a disservice by raising violent, irrational little monsters.

TFA: Parents should be trusted to distinguish this [a smack on the rear] from a punch in the face.

ciocia: Kumana Wanalaia: Beating your kids may produce some results, but it's nowhere near as effective as the more difficult alternative, setting a good example.

Well, if you are gonna talk that crazy shiat, GTFO.

It was interesting to note that 1) the one thing "smacked up" kids were NOT good at was refraining from fighting. No shiat. They learned the violence is how people settle stuff. and 2) kids that were still getting smacked around were doing worse.

I got the snot smacked out of me as a kid, and it didn't make me a better person. I was a mild little kid, and my parents were just frustrated people. It made me paranoid.


Clearly not everyone can distinguish between a smack on the rear and a punch in the face. Those people should not have kids.

/I think I just said you should not have been born. Oops.

Satanicpuppy: Unlikely?

So, having, you know, discipline makes you more successful, and this is unlikely?

Nice one, subby.

Why is corporal punishment necessary for instilling discipline?

ciocia: Kumana Wanalaia: Beating your kids may produce some results, but it's nowhere near as effective as the more difficult alternative, setting a good example.
Have 4 kids. Each is different and some needed a smack once in a while

Well, if you are gonna talk that crazy shiat, GTFO.

It was interesting to note that 1) the one thing "smacked up" kids were NOT good at was refraining from fighting. No shiat. They learned the violence is how people settle stuff.
They also learned not to do that again
and 2) kids that were still getting smacked around were doing worse.
Beating is different than corrective smack

I got the snot smacked out of me as a kid, and it didn't make me a better person. I was a mild little kid, and my parents were just frustrated people. It made me paranoid.

Your parents were farked up and you should listen to the voices in your head and kill them while they sleep. Or you can just grow up and get over them and make your peace like the rest of us did

I don't have kids, but I sometimes want to smack other peoples children who behave badly in public, will this also be acceptable? Also I would like to smack their parents.

Mietsko: I don't have kids, but I sometimes want to smack other peoples children who behave badly in public, will this also be acceptable? Also I would like to smack their parents.

Seek counseling.

Mietsko: I don't have kids, but I sometimes want to smack other peoples children who behave badly in public, will this also be acceptable? Also I would like to smack their parents.

I would like to smack people who smack other people''s children, let us hope this is also acceptable.

i just smack random strangers. i don't care how old they are.

it keeps society on it's toes.

Plexo: ciocia: Kumana Wanalaia: Beating your kids may produce some results, but it's nowhere near as effective as the more difficult alternative, setting a good example.
Have 4 kids. Each is different and some needed a smack once in a while

Well, if you are gonna talk that crazy shiat, GTFO.

It was interesting to note that 1) the one thing "smacked up" kids were NOT good at was refraining from fighting. No shiat. They learned the violence is how people settle stuff.
They also learned not to do that again
and 2) kids that were still getting smacked around were doing worse.
Beating is different than corrective smack

I got the snot smacked out of me as a kid, and it didn't make me a better person. I was a mild little kid, and my parents were just frustrated people. It made me paranoid.

Your parents were farked up and you should listen to the voices in your head and kill them while they sleep. Or you can just grow up and get over them and make your peace like the rest of us did

Thanks for the amateur headshrinking, but I already have made my peace with them. Is it o.k. if I still voice an opinion?

Trollarific headline. They're talking about giving kids too young to reason with a light smack, not heavy physical discipline, and not past a fairly young age when you can actually explain "no" to them.

culebra: xenovalent: I don't think it's so . In fact, I think it's . Obviously there are limits - smacking a baby that doesn't know why it's being smacked isn't going to help, smacking a kid two or three days after the incident occurred isn't going to help - but if they associated "being bad" with "getting hurt" then they're going to stop being bad a lot sooner than if the only reaction they ever get from their parents is "Adam, stop that. Stop that, Adam" ad nauseum. And no, there will be no flashbacks. (There may be impotent rage, but that's part of the point.)

Why resort to physical violence when harsh tones work just as well? At that rate you're just taking out your adult frustrations on a child, and are acting childlike yourself.

Maybe harsh tones don't work on some.

xenovalent: if they associated "being bad" with "getting hurt" then they're going to stop being bad a lot sooner than if the only reaction they ever get from their parents is "Adam, stop that. Stop that, Adam" ad nauseum

Research doesn't agree with you. The research referenced in the source concluded that an occasional slap to children under the age of six has some positive effect. Not beatings, and not after they're old enough to talk to. And it's not about forming associations with punishment because learning doesn't work that way.

BokerBill:

Clearly not everyone can distinguish between a smack on the rear and a punch in the face. Those people should not have kids.

/I think I just said you should not have been born. Oops.

That's O.K. I get that a lot.

ad hoc: 1. request
2. reason
3. non phys discipline/threat
4. ass beating


in that order

This sounds fair enough to me.

As a parent who physically disciplines my kids, I applaud the common sense this study returns to discipline... except that it doesn't. There is a huge distinction between calmly explaining to your child that they disobeyed and will be punished, then punishing them, and just passing out random swats whenever your anger threshold is breached. (That, in my opinion, can fairly be called child abuse.)

This reminds me of the old 70's studies that determined children who are praised wind up being more successful ... then 30 years later when a generation of over-praised self-entitled losers has already been brought up by that philosophy, somebody double checks and finds, lo and behold, that maybe those kids were praised more because they were already more successful as kids -- that is, not that praised kids succeed, but that successful kids get praised, and turn into successful adults. I propose that the kids in this study who are still being smacked and score worse on the negatives, may in fact be getting smacked because they're doing all that stuff, and not the other way around.

I'm spanking my kids right now, so I'm getting a kick....

/hate myself for writing that....