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(CBC) Dumbass Bono thinks we need Chinese-style controls on the Internet to protect impoverished rock stars from the ravages of file-sharing   (cbc.ca) divider line 168
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2010-01-03 11:16:35 AM
Oh am I hurting poor Bono's income. Shame on me. Sorry Bono.
 
2010-01-03 11:27:18 AM
Here's Courtney Love's take on music piracy. It's a pretty good read.

Link (new window)
 
2010-01-03 11:31:07 AM
Says the guy who spent over $50 million dollars on concert expenses, and then pulled in $125 million from concert ticket sales (not including the merchandising).
 
2010-01-03 11:38:39 AM
Has nothing to do with the disposable bands that have been pushed in the majority of music genres the past decade that all sound just like one another. If a band has staying power and is original, people will buy their shiat. NIN & Radiohead are two examples.

No one is buying a CD from a "flavor of the month" band just so they can stop listening to it after a month once the next "must have" hit single from a band you never heard of is pushed down everyones throat.

/rinse, repeat.
 
2010-01-03 11:39:05 AM
It's clear that Bono's policies are failing. I suggest he tries a few reforms.
 
2010-01-03 11:41:34 AM
In case you think Subby is being unfair or inflammatory in his headline, from TFA:

The musician claims the technology is available to track and prevent illegal downloading, noting efforts in China which limit its populace from freely accessing the internet.

And, meanwhile, his own band proves the truth of the music business now: the record is dead as a real source of income for a band, and probably should now be treated as a promotional item to be given away to stir up interest in the tour, which is where you actually make money.

But except for a few mega-selling bands like U2, that's always been true. Recording contracts are legalized assrape. Even U2's, though until now they've sold enough records to not notice it.
 
2010-01-03 11:42:25 AM
It's cute when people who don't know how the Internet works try to tell people how the Internet works.
 
2010-01-03 11:48:16 AM
Last One Left: It's clear that Bono's policies are failing. I suggest he tries a few reforms.

Hehe
 
2010-01-03 11:49:28 AM
Alacritous: Here's Courtney Love's take on music piracy. It's a pretty good read.

Link (new window)


No farking way Courtney Love wrote that. She sounds erudite and, more importantly, sane.
 
2010-01-03 11:53:12 AM
Alacritous: Here's Courtney Love's take on music piracy. It's a pretty good read.

Link (new window)


There is no way Courtney Love really wrote that. It's a good read, but I can't believe she put enough thought together to write that herself.
 
2010-01-03 12:03:17 PM
styckx: Alacritous: Here's Courtney Love's take on music piracy. It's a pretty good read.

Link (new window)

There is no way Courtney Love really wrote that. It's a good read, but I can't believe she put enough thought together to write that herself.


I don't know, growing up in Humboldt County, I knew stoners who could recite Shakespeare off the top of their heads or do other acts that would just blow your mind.
 
2010-01-03 12:10:01 PM
i can honestly say that my file sharing is not affecting U2's bottom line one bit.
 
2010-01-03 01:02:58 PM
U2? They're still around?
 
2010-01-03 01:42:42 PM
What happened to you, Bono? YOU USED TO BE COOL
 
2010-01-03 02:04:55 PM
This just in...

Bono thinks.
 
2010-01-03 02:14:36 PM
The musician claims the technology is available to track and prevent illegal downloading, noting efforts in China which limit its populace from freely accessing the internet.



i'll bet that by the time I get home tonight, i'll find a metric assload of U2 songs on bittorrent just because this story broke on fark.

Sorry bono - but you cannot stop file trading. NOTHING can stop file trading. well...a nuclear war might, but that's a bit extreme even for RIAA.
 
2010-01-03 02:36:15 PM
Yes, I'd like to hear more from all the poor innocent people taking something for free that they don't own and how they are under assault from mr. bono- do! Tell me how horrible the Bono is and how the internet works and how since you can steal, it's of course OK for you steal, it's brilliant logic! How dare anyone unhip have an issue with it. I'd like to hear more about how since Bono is rich it's OK to steal from every performer out there. Please, tell me again how you're entitled to the music you take for free. I'm fascinated.

It's the file sharers that can't keep their grubby fingers off the unguarded goods they could, perish the thought, NOT steal. You stupid farks, you can't justify file sharing, you just want to do it so you rationalize it. If the draconian bullshiat Bono is suggesting comes into play the blame will fall squarely on the shoulders of file sharers. So don't kid yourselves.

I accept that file sharing is something nearly everyone does, from time to time or all the time, but at least have the balls to admit that you're stealing.

If you strive to pay for music you like, somehow support the artists you like with some sort of monetary award, that's a start. Your money is your vote. If you pay for music, recording artists can make a living, have jobs, and make art.

I dunno. Maybe file sharers just don't like where the cash register is, I think that's a line of BS (that they just want the free), but I can respect the argument that the cash register is on a fatcat's desk and not sitting with the artist anyway. So yes, you might be lining the pockets of a rich fark when you buy music through a label, but you're also taking the pennies from the artist- and that's often all they've got coming in.

So it's up to you to open your damn wallets up and figure out how to pay recording artists. But nope, you've got 10,000 songs that are all critical that you get for free and fill your computer with and you can't afford to pay for all the music you gorge yourself on. So please don't go crying when artists get a little pissed that you've got their music (or some less rich artist's music) and it didn't get paid for. Love makes an OK point about exposure, but that doesn't mean you're innocent. It doesn't mean you're helping. Not until you shell over at least the 5 cents a song she mentions. The revolution may have served a purpose but the free ride has to end. The party's over. Time to pay up, hopscotch, I'm not your monkey.

/endrant
//support local music
///This rant is in no way to be an indicator that you should go to the shows of artists you like and throw nickels at them. Please hand over your nickels in an orderly fashion.
 
2010-01-03 02:37:16 PM
Weaver95: NOTHING can stop file trading

Only you can prevent forest fires file trading
 
2010-01-03 02:46:52 PM
I've been keeping money out of Bono's pocket for years by not buying his shiatty music. Or downloading it.
 
2010-01-03 02:47:25 PM
Dr. Picklebacon: Weaver95: NOTHING can stop file trading

Only you can prevent forest fires file trading wild fires.


You obviously have not been watching enough TV lately.

/Why did they change it?
 
2010-01-03 02:47:48 PM
Dr. Picklebacon: I'd like to hear more from all the poor innocent people taking something for free that they don't own

The laws of supply and demand say that demand being equal, something that is rare has more value than something that is common. Once something is in digital form, it can be reproduced an infinite number of times making the supply infinite. therefore it has zero value. What cannot be replicated is a live concert performance. or, in the case of movies, the big screen experience. Avatar for example. Just wouldn't be the same in a home theater, I don't care how much you spent on it.
 
2010-01-03 02:51:06 PM
There's only one Bono who anyone should ever have listened to regarding anything political.

www.s9.com
 
2010-01-03 02:51:12 PM
STFU BONO!!

go make another crappy record and save some non americans
 
2010-01-03 02:52:00 PM
If only there was a way for artists to control their own work...
 
2010-01-03 02:52:37 PM
I love the one recently with either Sully or Aaron Lewis biatching that piracy killed the sales of their last album...until it was discovered that not only was it the lowest selling album of the year but also the least downloaded.

Also...who the fark do the record companies think is putting out the pre-release albums six months before they hit shelves? It's time for the record companies and RIAA to clean their own farking houses?
 
2010-01-03 02:56:11 PM
Ever since Bono went on Oprah to sell iPods and Gap t-shirts in the name of charity (10$ will go to help Africa for every 400$ iPod you buy! America! fark yeah!) I find him hard to take seriously.
 
2010-01-03 02:59:25 PM
You would have to make your living off of royalties to really understand.
 
2010-01-03 03:00:20 PM
I have bought tickets for two of U2's concerts.

I have bought six of their albums, and downloaded the rest.

Ask Long-Duck Bono what source he got the most money from.
 
2010-01-03 03:04:27 PM
Of course Bono would think this. He is the largest piece of crap ever crapped.
 
2010-01-03 03:06:05 PM
Let me get in here and summarize the Pro-Filesharing/illegal downloading/Copyright Infringement arguments/justifications:

1. It's not convenient enough for me to purchase them legit, so it's OK.
2. It's not pirating, so it's ok.
3. Nothing is actually "stolen", since it's just 1's and 0's on my hard drive, so it's OK.
4. It's not going away, so it's OK.
5. Everyone does it, so it's OK.
6. "B..b...but teh artists make teh moneyz from teh tourZzz and ConCertz!!!11!!?, so it's OK.
7. Everything on the internet should be free.
8. Teh RIAA sucks, so it's OK.
9. Teh artists a rich, so it's OK.
10. The record labels crank out a lot of junk, so it's OK to download what stuff I do like.
11. I pay for artists I like, so it's OK to download everything...
12. It's free promotion!

I'm sure there's some I missed.
 
2010-01-03 03:07:37 PM
Really?
southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
 
2010-01-03 03:12:45 PM
Dr. Picklebacon: but at least have the balls to admit that you're stealing.

I'm not stealing, I'm previewing. I haven't bought an album in 10 years that I haven't checked out on youtube first. And I do buy CDs fairly frequently. If it's good, I buy the album. If it sucks balls, I don't.

How is that doing anything but helping good artists?
 
2010-01-03 03:14:09 PM
show me: Dr. Picklebacon: Weaver95: NOTHING can stop file trading

Only you can prevent forest fires file trading wild fires.

You obviously have not been watching enough TV lately.

/Why did they change it?


Holy shiat. What am I, like 80yo or something. It's been Wild Fires for years. I'd bet they changed it because it sounds cooler when the Smokey voice says Wild Fires. Wild Fires. Sort of rolls off the tongue. Wild Fires.

Might be a song with that phrase in there somewhere, which I could write, record, and then transfer to a digital format (the standard format) where should I market the tune some idiot will think that means I don't deserve to get paid because they can't hold it in their hand (a real thinker that one) so I'd be doing it for the sake of making art alone. Thankfully that's enough to keep many artists going, for a time. The part about someone who actually wants to hear the song and have it in their library not respecting artists but wanting their work for free through some convoluted logic... that part is a bit of a downer- I mean hell, I was talking about nickels making a difference and get told by the genius that artists can forget it because the work has no value. Well then don't take it. Artists better than I are often also people with better things to do than work for free. That's the thing about truly gifted people they'll find other avenues and you'll never hear their music as they can't survive making it. It'd sure be nice if being an artist in this country was considered important enough to be a paying job.

I'm going to go make some soup and flavor it with my bitter tears.
 
2010-01-03 03:15:49 PM
benlonghair: If it's good, I buy the album.

Awesome.
 
2010-01-03 03:16:05 PM
I'll take Bono seriously when he takes on a surname.
 
2010-01-03 03:20:37 PM
Who cares what Boner thinks?
 
2010-01-03 03:21:36 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!
 
2010-01-03 03:21:49 PM
Walt_Jizzney: I'm sure there's some I missed.

You forgot "there's only one song out of the 12 on the album that I like, and I'm not going to pay 15 bucks for one freaking song and the rest are crap. so it's okay"
 
2010-01-03 03:22:49 PM
Walt_Jizzney: Let me get in here and summarize the Pro-Filesharing/illegal downloading/Copyright Infringement arguments/justifications:

1. It's not convenient enough for me to purchase them legit, so it's OK.
2. It's not pirating, so it's ok.
3. Nothing is actually "stolen", since it's just 1's and 0's on my hard drive, so it's OK.
4. It's not going away, so it's OK.
5. Everyone does it, so it's OK.
6. "B..b...but teh artists make teh moneyz from teh tourZzz and ConCertz!!!11!!?, so it's OK.
7. Everything on the internet should be free.
8. Teh RIAA sucks, so it's OK.
9. Teh artists a rich, so it's OK.
10. The record labels crank out a lot of junk, so it's OK to download what stuff I do like.
11. I pay for artists I like, so it's OK to download everything...
12. It's free promotion!

I'm sure there's some I missed.


How about we only have two choices, over priced crap music albums (mostly), or free crap we can barely listen to and delete once we realize it's shiat. The free will always win. The good albums that are solid from start to end will always sell albums.

Weezer Ratitude Deluxe Edition: 47m:83s in length
Amazon price: $16.99
Price per crappy song: $1.21

No idea why I allegedly downloaded that for free, listened, and deleted it a week later since it was pure crap.
 
2010-01-03 03:25:32 PM
Alacritous: Walt_Jizzney: I'm sure there's some I missed.

You forgot "there's only one song out of the 12 on the album that I like, and I'm not going to pay 15 bucks for one freaking song and the rest are crap. so it's okay"


Yes, because there's nowhere out there to buy a single song. You're reaching now (again). Troll? That or, sorry, no nice way to put it, incredible idiot.
 
2010-01-03 03:25:48 PM
Dear Bono,

No one wants your awful music and your heavy handed message that just makes you look like a hypocrite.

Your friend,
S1uggo

PS your glasses are silly
 
2010-01-03 03:26:12 PM
Damn. They put an album out after The Unforgettable Fire?
 
2010-01-03 03:26:59 PM
styckx: No idea why I allegedly downloaded that for free, listened, and deleted it a week later since it was pure crap.

Because you're a crook. It's that simple. You consumed it. By your logic I should stop paying for food.
 
2010-01-03 03:29:00 PM
Dr. Picklebacon: styckx: No idea why I allegedly downloaded that for free, listened, and deleted it a week later since it was pure crap.

Because you're a crook. It's that simple. You consumed it. By your logic I should stop paying for food.


OK that was a little heavy. I'm all for the preview. That's what the radio used to do exclusively. I don't care how people preview music. If you didn't like it, sure, why buy it. But if you listened for a week, multiple times (?), that sounded for a second like you got something out of it.
 
2010-01-03 03:31:26 PM
Dr. Picklebacon: That or, sorry, no nice way to put it, incredible idiot.

Sorry pal, Not everyone is beholden to Itunes. And even then, some artists refuse to let their albums be broken up into individual songs.
 
2010-01-03 03:31:28 PM
Saborlas: I'll take Bono seriously when he takes on a surname.

Vox.
 
2010-01-03 03:32:43 PM
Alacritous: Walt_Jizzney: I'm sure there's some I missed.

You forgot "there's only one song out of the 12 on the album that I like, and I'm not going to pay 15 bucks for one freaking song and the rest are crap. so it's okay"


I think I will add this one. it kinda goes to my number 1, though...

I think the justifications I missed a generally combinations of the master list. :0
 
2010-01-03 03:33:12 PM
Dr. Picklebacon: Dr. Picklebacon: styckx: No idea why I allegedly downloaded that for free, listened, and deleted it a week later since it was pure crap.

Because you're a crook. It's that simple. You consumed it. By your logic I should stop paying for food.

OK that was a little heavy. I'm all for the preview. That's what the radio used to do exclusively. I don't care how people preview music. If you didn't like it, sure, why buy it. But if you listened for a week, multiple times (?), that sounded for a second like you got something out of it.


Exactly. Purchase CD, rip it to a FLAC, sell CD back to a used CD shop for a few bucks, money well spent.
 
2010-01-03 03:34:18 PM
I don't buy many albums. The music I listen to that my coworkers play while we work got me to buy even less. Majority of the time, the music just sounds the same (I think he plays punk or emo or punk emo, I dunno anymore.) I enjoy rock and metal mostly, but I don't listen to much anymore because of the problem stated earlier. Even the bands I once enjoyed have become nothing but rehashed crap trying to become some cliche pop spiel.
 
2010-01-03 03:34:22 PM
Alacritous: Dr. Picklebacon: That or, sorry, no nice way to put it, incredible idiot.

Sorry pal, Not everyone is beholden to Itunes. And even then, some artists refuse to let their albums be broken up into individual songs.


So - because YOU don't want to use iTunes, it's ok to download it for free?
 
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