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(The New York Times)   "I'll be in my tiny, doorless plastic bunk"   (nytimes.com) divider line 161
    More: Sad, Yukio Hatoyama, Japan, For Atsushi Nakanishi, capsules, Capsule Hotel Shinjuku 510, University of Tokyo, public high schools, night shifts  
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2010-01-02 04:49:21 PM  
PacManDreaming: Bathia_Mapes: Not our local jail. No cable TV and at times it's so overcrowded that inmates sleep on plastic mates on the floor.

Been in the local pokey, huh?


Yes, I have, but as an employee. I used to work there as a clerk.
 
2010-01-02 05:01:35 PM  
bmihura: $640 month is about what the United States government charges me to keep my normal-sized house. And I can stand up in it!

I just did some googling (and currency conversion) and found that a "Western" style apartment in Tokyo ranges from $10,752.69 (USD) to $483,870.97 per month.

For about $377 (USD) a month, you can rent a 12 square-meters room. Such a room would have a sink inside and perhaps a stove for cooking. It would not have a toilet nor a bathroom. The community Japanese-style toilet (often being referred to as a "hole in the ground") is shared among six or seven people. To take a bath, you must visit the local public bath, at a cost of about $7.50 per use.
 
2010-01-02 05:51:23 PM  
Mr_Master2: cretinbob: Seth'n'Spectrum: Disapproves.

I see what you did there

and I just want to point out:

SOCIALISM!!!!!


\\if I were homeless in the United States I'd move to Japan.

And where exactly would you come up with the required $640 a month, not to mention airfare?


pfft details. I'm sure they have tight immigration policies too.
 
2010-01-02 06:47:37 PM  
Bathia_Mapes: bmihura: $640 month is about what the United States government charges me to keep my normal-sized house. And I can stand up in it!

I just did some googling (and currency conversion) and found that a "Western" style apartment in Tokyo ranges from $10,752.69 (USD) to $483,870.97 per month.

For about $377 (USD) a month, you can rent a 12 square-meters room. Such a room would have a sink inside and perhaps a stove for cooking. It would not have a toilet nor a bathroom. The community Japanese-style toilet (often being referred to as a "hole in the ground") is shared among six or seven people. To take a bath, you must visit the local public bath, at a cost of about $7.50 per use.


bingo, like that article about the micro apartments in manhattan, housing in Tokyo isn't cheap. I haven't looked at cost of living indexes for tokyo compared to NYC or san fran but it woudln't be far off. You would be paying a lot of money for a hole in the wall. $640 a month in tokyo seems like a steal.
 
2010-01-02 06:50:44 PM  
Unimpressed.
farm4.static.flickr.com
/5 1/2 years is a long time
 
2010-01-02 07:42:22 PM  
Bathia_Mapes: bmihura: $640 month is about what the United States government charges me to keep my normal-sized house. And I can stand up in it!

I just did some googling (and currency conversion) and found that a "Western" style apartment in Tokyo ranges from $10,752.69 (USD) to $483,870.97 per month.


The reason that is so expensive is because you searched in English. Only rich people working for rich foreign companies will be looking for "Western" style housing, and they usually don't speak Japanese.

For about $377 (USD) a month, you can rent a 12 square-meters room. Such a room would have a sink inside and perhaps a stove for cooking. It would not have a toilet nor a bathroom.

You copy-pasted this from Price-check Tokyo. This website is designed for expats. It is very out-of-date, and usually wrong. The vast majority of 1R apartments have toilets.

The community Japanese-style toilet (often being referred to as a "hole in the ground"-by foreigners) is shared among six or seven people. To take a bath, you must visit the local public bath, at a cost of about $7.50 per use.

They cost between $2 and $4 to use. Spas would cost $7 and up.
 
2010-01-02 10:38:37 PM  
bakarocket: Bathia_Mapes: bmihura: $640 ......

They cost between $2 and $4 to use. Spas would cost $7 and up.


How much for the happy ending?
 
2010-01-02 11:04:58 PM  
orbitalfreak: FrancoFile: The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel.

What's really crazy about that sentence is that when it was written, it meant fuzzy and grey; nowadays, with digital signals, it's a perfect clear blue in most cases.


It was nighttime. Case was in a bar called "The Chat".

Ever stepped outside, at night, in a moderate-sized city (to say nothing of a place like LA), and looked up?

Grey, sometimes with a tinge of yellow, sometimes with a tinge of green; at times, while it may not look like static, it definitely evokes the feeling.

/is it still a dystopia when you are living in it?
 
2010-01-02 11:45:11 PM  
karst: /Not available for comment

Came for the Stanley Tweedle reference. Was not disappointed.
 
2010-01-03 01:06:39 AM  
FrancoFile: The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel.

/c'mon, do I have to do all the work around here?


I've already referenced William Gibson.
 
2010-01-03 08:32:10 AM  
cedarpark: I don't know why but somehow I can't picture homeless people in Japan.

/lots around here


farm4.static.flickr.com

Maybe a 5 minute walk from the story's capsule hotel.

cretinbob: bakarocket: Bathia_Mapes: bmihura: $640 ......

They cost between $2 and $4 to use. Spas would cost $7 and up.

How much for the happy ending?


If you don't mind nasty street whore, 50 bucks.

MetaRinka: Bathia_Mapes: bmihura: $640 month is about what the United States government charges me to keep my normal-sized house. And I can stand up in it!

I just did some googling (and currency conversion) and found that a "Western" style apartment in Tokyo ranges from $10,752.69 (USD) to $483,870.97 per month.

For about $377 (USD) a month, you can rent a 12 square-meters room. Such a room would have a sink inside and perhaps a stove for cooking. It would not have a toilet nor a bathroom. The community Japanese-style toilet (often being referred to as a "hole in the ground") is shared among six or seven people. To take a bath, you must visit the local public bath, at a cost of about $7.50 per use.

bingo, like that article about the micro apartments in manhattan, housing in Tokyo isn't cheap. I haven't looked at cost of living indexes for tokyo compared to NYC or san fran but it woudln't be far off. You would be paying a lot of money for a hole in the wall. $640 a month in tokyo seems like a steal.


My place was a find. It was probably the only apartment in Shinjuku that was a 15 minute walk from a train station. I got really lucky, but it was tiny, and no pets, so we moved on.
 
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