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(Sporting News)   Evander Holyfield to fight for heavyweight title, presumably with his walker   (sportingnews.com ) divider line
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2010-01-01 08:03:56 PM  
It figures this news would come out as soon as I have submitted all my death pool lists.
 
2010-01-02 12:57:53 AM  
Well, "ears" to him!
 
2010-01-02 01:25:51 AM  
Former heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield will challenge Francois Botha for the lightly regarded WBF title in Uganda on Jan. 16.

"Lightly regarded" is a euphemism for "completely irrelevant bullshiat." Boxing wants to know why it's dying? Look at the sanctioning of crap like this, you farks.
 
2010-01-02 02:14:55 AM  
This was news like 3 days ago when it was announced, way to stay relevant fark.
 
2010-01-02 02:26:48 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Former heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield will challenge Francois Botha for the lightly regarded WBF title in Uganda on Jan. 16.

"Lightly regarded" is a euphemism for "completely irrelevant bullshiat." Boxing wants to know why it's dying? Look at the sanctioning of crap like this, you farks.


I'd be more willing to subscribe to your newsletter if this was, in fact, the only bout set up. Every sport has tons of useless matches for the few that are big.
 
2010-01-02 02:49:36 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Former heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield will challenge Francois Botha for the lightly regarded WBF title in Uganda on Jan. 16.

"Lightly regarded" is a euphemism for "completely irrelevant bullshiat." Boxing wants to know why it's dying? Look at the sanctioning of crap like this, you farks.


Boxing at least appears more manly than UFC, which is all that mounting and sweating on the mat.
 
2010-01-02 03:05:43 AM  
Boxing isn't even close to dying.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather will shatter every boxing PPV record in history. It is also the best fight we have seen in 20+ years. Boxing might have lost some luster in the states, but that is only because there isn't a top notch American heavyweight. Klitchko's simply own the heavyweight division right now.
 
2010-01-02 03:12:10 AM  
Many Bothas died to bring us this fight.
 
2010-01-02 03:15:14 AM  

seabass242: Boxing isn't even close to dying.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather will shatter every boxing PPV record in history. It is also the best fight we have seen in 20+ years. Boxing might have lost some luster in the states, but that is only because there isn't a top notch American heavyweight. Klitchko's simply own the heavyweight division right now.


Charging more does not equate to more viewers. Boxing is dead.
 
2010-01-02 03:34:57 AM  
Well, I LOST IT!
 
2010-01-02 03:40:06 AM  

Foaming: Many Bothas died to bring us this fight.


Thread over!
 
2010-01-02 03:51:23 AM  
Don't let anything fool you. Holyfield is only going to get his brains beat in because he's low on cash. His $10 million Atlanta mansion got foreclosed last year. Some landscaping company sued him for about $550,000. And he hasn't been making his $3,000 a month child payments.
 
2010-01-02 04:19:30 AM  

MadSkillz: Boxing at least appears more manly than UFC, which is all that mounting and sweating on the mat.


Wrong. "Sweaty men rolling in tights" was only relevant for hating on professional wrestling. Now that they enjoy the sweaty men rolling in tights, you're gay for even thinking of it and you should say that to Brock Lesnar's face...or somethin'.
 
2010-01-02 04:24:38 AM  

the1hatman: Foaming: Many Bothas died to bring us this fight.

Thread over!


YOMANK
 
2010-01-02 04:34:49 AM  

Brostorm: seabass242: Boxing isn't even close to dying.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather will shatter every boxing PPV record in history. It is also the best fight we have seen in 20+ years. Boxing might have lost some luster in the states, but that is only because there isn't a top notch American heavyweight. Klitchko's simply own the heavyweight division right now.

Charging more does not equate to more viewers. Boxing is dead.


I was talking about PPV buys smartass.
 
2010-01-02 05:10:04 AM  

Brostorm: seabass242: Boxing isn't even close to dying.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather will shatter every boxing PPV record in history. It is also the best fight we have seen in 20+ years. Boxing might have lost some luster in the states, but that is only because there isn't a top notch American heavyweight. Klitchko's simply own the heavyweight division right now.

Charging more does not equate to more viewers. Boxing is dead.


ask the average person--the average sports fan--to name 5 current big-name boxers. up the ante by asking who holds the belt in any division, in whatever branch/league.

now ask the same of MMA.

boxing is dying. it will never die, but it's circling the spit bucket.
 
2010-01-02 06:57:14 AM  
Wait a second, he fought VALUEV? And he lost by decision?! For a guy as old as he is, that is damned impressive. Valuev is like 16 feet tall and looks like a goddamned caveman.
 
2010-01-02 10:20:04 AM  
I loved his guest spot on QVC!

Link (new window)
 
2010-01-02 10:35:28 AM  

seabass242: Boxing isn't even close to dying.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather will shatter every boxing PPV record in history. It is also the best fight we have seen in 20+ years. Boxing might have lost some luster in the states, but that is only because there isn't a top notch American heavyweight. Klitchko's simply own the heavyweight division right now.


Two things.

1) You assume the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight will actually happen. FMJs camp is still whining over drug testing last I heard and Pac is trying to take them to court over defamation of character. The fight could happen, but I'm not holding my breath.

2) These kinds of fights are the precise reason why boxing is in the toilet. Instead of feeding people a steady diet of good PPVs with three or four big matches a year they have these so called "super fights" maybe once a year or every other year. Of course only a twelve round slugfest can possibly live up to the insane amount of hype used to promote it and that never happens. Not that boxing cares because they make the 200+ million on that one card and laugh all the way to the bank.
 
2010-01-02 10:36:41 AM  

seabass242: Brostorm: seabass242: Boxing isn't even close to dying.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather will shatter every boxing PPV record in history. It is also the best fight we have seen in 20+ years. Boxing might have lost some luster in the states, but that is only because there isn't a top notch American heavyweight. Klitchko's simply own the heavyweight division right now.

Charging more does not equate to more viewers. Boxing is dead.

I was talking about PPV buys smartass.


You're not keeping up, and counting chickens that aren't hatched yet.

Even Dan Rafael is pessimistic about the fight getting made at this point (Arum is vacationing (drunk) in Cabo right now and the fight is scheduled for March 19), and has gone so far as to call it and "absolute disaster for the industry," a "nuclear bomb on the sport of boxing," and a "death blow."

Since it's apparent that you're not up to speed, let me tell you that Dan Rafael preparing to throw in the towel on the sport is a sudden about-face, and something he has been very slow to come around on and has basically said was not happening.
 
2010-01-02 10:37:49 AM  

AgentOrangeDrink: Wait a second, he fought VALUEV? And he lost by decision?! For a guy as old as he is, that is damned impressive. Valuev is like 16 feet tall and looks like a goddamned caveman.


He beat Valuev up and got robbed, but there's nothing impressive at all about that.
 
2010-01-02 10:40:48 AM  
/March 13
//birthday is the 19th, which must be why I had that number in my head
 
2010-01-02 11:19:06 AM  
Well he SHOULD have been awarded the win in his last fight. Hopefully he'll get the win he deserves this time.
 
2010-01-02 11:44:16 AM  

jake3988: Well he SHOULD have been awarded the win in his last fight. Hopefully he'll get the win he deserves this time.


Well we can all be thankful that he'll at least get the brain damage from the fight if he doesn't win.
 
2010-01-02 01:18:39 PM  

Flappyhead: 1) You assume the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight will actually happen. FMJs camp is still whining over drug testing last I heard and Pac is trying to take them to court over defamation of character. The fight could happen, but I'm not holding my breath.


I wouldn't say they're "whining". They're demanding a drug test, and Arum's done everything but admit Manny's on the gas.

2009's biggest PPV was UFC 100. Pacquaio/Mayweather is the ONLY big boxing draw for this year, and every time Bob Arum opens his mouth, he makes it worse.
 
2010-01-02 01:59:03 PM  
Some folks have to learn . . . the hard way.

or

If he dies, he dies.
 
2010-01-02 02:17:39 PM  

RevMercutio: I wouldn't say they're "whining". They're demanding a drug test, and Arum's done everything but admit Manny's on the gas.


Wrong.
 
2010-01-02 02:30:50 PM  

the biggest redneck here: RevMercutio: I wouldn't say they're "whining". They're demanding a drug test, and Arum's done everything but admit Manny's on the gas.

Wrong.


Way to refute the argument, chum. I especially like how you backed it up with nothing at all.

/I think they both use, but Floyd thinks Manny doesn't know how to cycle off to pass blood tests.
 
2010-01-02 02:35:19 PM  

RevMercutio: the biggest redneck here: RevMercutio: I wouldn't say they're "whining". They're demanding a drug test, and Arum's done everything but admit Manny's on the gas.

/I think they both use, but Floyd thinks Manny doesn't know how to cycle off to pass blood tests.


So why did Manny agree to blood and urine tests immediately after the fight? Pacs beef was drawing blood a month before the fight(kind of a stupid superstition but athletes are full of them).
 
2010-01-02 02:49:01 PM  

RevMercutio: the biggest redneck here: RevMercutio: I wouldn't say they're "whining". They're demanding a drug test, and Arum's done everything but admit Manny's on the gas.

Wrong.

Way to refute the argument, chum. I especially like how you backed it up with nothing at all.

/I think they both use, but Floyd thinks Manny doesn't know how to cycle off to pass blood tests.


You have no idea what you're talking about, and there's still no reason to inform you when you continue to make such ignorant statements about something which you clearly know so little about.
 
2010-01-02 04:22:44 PM  
(soap box)
poor evander, someone should step in and stop this, while he might have skills to continue to be competitive in a diminished weight class (seriously when was the last time we had multiple quality heavy weights).

boxing faces some very serious issues (aside from the health of its fighters) which includes a dwindling fan base that is moving further and further away from the main stream and closer to the shadier gambling section of their demographic.

lack of any quality fights being shown on free or basic cable limits the accessibility of the sport to new fans, and older fans who started to tune out during the 1 round ppv events of the late 80s? are leary of plunking down 50$+ for a "mega-fight" which may or not not materialize.

i question if boxing is even a bigger event than soccer in the usa these days, while a mayweather v pacquiao sounds tantalizing, there are way too many margarito v mosley fights that leave you scratching your head about what is going on with boxing.


(/soapbox)
 
2010-01-02 04:36:46 PM  

steamingpile: This was news like 3 days ago when it was announced, way to stay relevant fark.


It's still not relevant 3 days later.
 
2010-01-02 05:02:12 PM  
But when will he fight Kimbo Slice?
 
2010-01-02 05:09:11 PM  
Evander's going to be in diapers in five years. His brain is scrambled...
 
2010-01-02 05:37:19 PM  
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2010-01-02 09:40:36 PM  

the biggest redneck here: RevMercutio: the biggest redneck here: RevMercutio: I wouldn't say they're "whining". They're demanding a drug test, and Arum's done everything but admit Manny's on the gas.

Wrong.

Way to refute the argument, chum. I especially like how you backed it up with nothing at all.

/I think they both use, but Floyd thinks Manny doesn't know how to cycle off to pass blood tests.

You have no idea what you're talking about, and there's still no reason to inform you when you continue to make such ignorant statements about something which you clearly know so little about.


Or because you've got nothing. You really believe that boxers aren't on the gas? In that case, you're woefully naive.

It's easy to say somebody's ignorant, especially when you back it up with nothing whatsoever. If you're so convinced I'm wrong, come up with something to prove it.
 
2010-01-03 10:21:04 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Former heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield will challenge Francois Botha for the lightly regarded WBF title in Uganda on Jan. 16.

"Lightly regarded" is a euphemism for "completely irrelevant bullshiat."


Came here to say this. Nicely put, I thought.

Boxing wants to know why it's dying? Look at the sanctioning of crap like this, you farks.

Boxing isn't dying. It's been around for millennia. Long after you and I and everyone we know are dead, men will still be fighting each other with their fists.
 
2010-01-03 11:50:41 AM  
Like him or not, Dana White (an avid boxing fan) makes a great point when he talks about why boxing isn't as much ingrained into the mainstream consciousness as it used to be: the businessmen stopped caring about the product.

Like someone said above, you get the occasional superfight that cannot possibly live up to the hype, and some occasional good fights, but for the most part you have up and comers beating tin cans to inflate their records. PPV broadcasts have one fight people want to see.

Contrast that with the UFC product; ignoring whether or not you LIKE mma or not, the UFC never tries to keep its top guys apart and they always try to stack the PPV cards.

Even on a deeply mediocre card like last night (due to multiple injuries) the UFC put together a really entertaining card with exciting matches. In boxing, you'd never see guys like Lauzon and Stout fighting each other; they'd be beating up some bums to inflate their record to get a title shot.

Again, ignoring whether or not you like mma better than boxing, the UFC cares way more than any boxing organization has in years about giving their fans the fights they want to see. That's why the UFC is growing the way it is, and boxing isn't.

Boxing will always have a following, but right now the sport is in a funk because it is controlled by people that don't care about anything except money. Obviously Dana White and the UFC want to make money, but they realize the best way to grow the sport is to treat the fans as best they can. My only complaint is that fighters in the UFC don't make as much as they should for their fights.
 
2010-01-03 09:09:25 PM  
Too many promotions, too many champions. Too much inflation of records. Boxing may not be dying, but it's struggling to maintain relevance.
 
2010-01-04 02:32:56 AM  

the biggest redneck here: AgentOrangeDrink: Wait a second, he fought VALUEV? And he lost by decision?! For a guy as old as he is, that is damned impressive. Valuev is like 16 feet tall and looks like a goddamned caveman.

He beat Valuev up and got robbed, but there's nothing impressive at all about that.


Is that sarcasm? If not, how is there nothing impressive about beating up Valuev?
 
2010-01-04 10:01:11 AM  
Have you seen Holyfield's Taco Bell commercial? His voice is really bad. He tries really hard to enunciate. He has no business getting into the ring - he's had enough head trauma already.

No wonder he keeps fighting overseas - there's NO WAY he could get a medical clearance to fight in the US.
 
2010-01-04 11:26:34 AM  

AgentOrangeDrink: how is there nothing impressive about beating up Valuev?


Because he's terrible. Chagaev beat him up, the corpse of John Ruiz was also robbed of a decision (apparently, I wouldn't dare spend my time watching those two "fight"), David Haye and his cruiserweight frame and deplorable cardio beat him up, and so did the corpse of Evander Holyfield. So yeah, there's nothing impressive at all about beating up Valuev.

rufus-t-firefly: Have you seen Holyfield's Taco Bell commercial? His voice is really bad. He tries really hard to enunciate. He has no business getting into the ring - he's had enough head trauma already.

No wonder he keeps fighting overseas - there's NO WAY he could get a medical clearance to fight in the US.


Meldrick Taylor was allowed to enter the ring long after he lost the ability to speak AT ALL and would wobble to the ring. Especially given his name recognition, SOMEONE would sanction a Holyfield fight.
 
2010-01-04 12:33:19 PM  
Francois Botha also hasn't been desperately relevant in a while, so I guess this it's appropriate that the WBF championship is "lightly regarded". He's been beating scrubs and journeymen.
 
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