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(BusinessWeek)   If you run an airline it's no big deal to piss off a passenger, it's another thing entirely to piss off Chuck Yeager   (businessweek.com) divider line 135
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2010-01-01 03:55:26 PM
It'll never fly.
 
2010-01-01 04:03:47 PM
Holy crap. Yeager's still alive? That's hardcore..you'd think "plane crash" would have been in the cards years ago.
 
2010-01-01 04:05:05 PM
I hope he asks for a stick of Beemans.
 
2010-01-01 04:14:51 PM
RocketRod: I hope he asks for a stick of Beemans.

Hey Ridley...
 
2010-01-01 04:17:37 PM
Somaticasual: Yeager's still alive? That's hardcore..you'd think "plane crash" would have been in the cards years ago.

Oh, he's crashed before, but he's too tough to die from something as simple as that.

If I remember right, he was shot down over Pakistan or Afghanistan in the 80's...
 
2010-01-01 04:26:26 PM
Get off of his air.

/totally with you there Chuck
 
2010-01-01 04:32:23 PM
Anaxphone: Somaticasual: Yeager's still alive? That's hardcore..you'd think "plane crash" would have been in the cards years ago.

Oh, he's crashed before, but he's too tough to die from something as simple as that.

If I remember right, he was shot down over Pakistan or Afghanistan in the 80's...


I heard he's doing some freelancing over Iran now.
 
2010-01-01 04:36:19 PM
Errk: I heard he's doing some freelancing over Iran now.

Not sure if you're serious, but it wouldn't shock me.

He's one tough mofo.
 
2010-01-01 05:24:10 PM
He's tough. He's an incredible pilot. He's led an astonishing life.

He is also, by all accounts I've heard, a monumental asshole.

So yeah, I wouldn't step on his toes if I could help it.
 
2010-01-01 05:52:15 PM
Meh. I'm no expert, but Yeager is a public figure and the ad copy wasn't written in a way that gave the impression he was endorsing the service.

IOW, He isn't going to get anywhere with his lawsuit. Somebody should just give Yeager a can of Ensure and set him down in front of a TV with Matlock on. He should forget all about this suing nonsense by the first commercial break.



/Being a hell of a pilot does not excuse one from being a litigious asshole.

 
2010-01-01 06:19:22 PM
CheekyMunky: He's tough. He's an incredible pilot. He's led an astonishing life.

He is also, by all accounts I've heard, a monumental asshole.


My brother-in-law flies a Hawker for some law firm in Texas and the lawyers used to give Yeager a lift every once in awhile, I had started flying lessons about the same time in another state. I remembered an Oliphant cartoon from years earlier about Oliver North's pilot flying guns to the Contras in a C-130 by himself with nothing but "a pearl handled revolver and a Bible autographed by Chuck Yeager under the seat."

I found it amusing and asked my brother-in-law if he could get me one. A week later I had a pocket-sized Bible autographed by Chuck Yeager to me (Good Luck, Rick) that I carried in my chart case for over 20 years until we went to electronic charts. I still have it, but we don't carry charts anymore.

Yeager said it was the only Bible he had ever autographed. Every other pilot I've showed it to wanted one like it, so if Yeager if gets low on cash he can rest easy knowing he could sell thousands of those.

///heard the asshole stories as well
 
2010-01-01 06:22:24 PM
Is it illegal to state someone's name in an ad now? It's not like they're claiming he endorses any product.
 
2010-01-01 06:22:38 PM
Time to replace all the Chuck Norris jokes with Chuck Yeager jokes.
 
2010-01-01 06:23:20 PM
cazman: My brother-in-law flies a Hawker for some law firm in Texas and the lawyers used to give Yeager a lift every once in awhile, I had started flying lessons about the same time in another state. I remembered an Oliphant cartoon from years earlier about Oliver North's pilot flying guns to the Contras in a C-130 by himself with nothing but "a pearl handled revolver and a Bible autographed by Chuck Yeager under the seat."

I found it amusing and asked my brother-in-law if he could get me one. A week later I had a pocket-sized Bible autographed by Chuck Yeager to me (Good Luck, Rick) that I carried in my chart case for over 20 years until we went to electronic charts. I still have it, but we don't carry charts anymore.

Yeager said it was the only Bible he had ever autographed. Every other pilot I've showed it to wanted one like it, so if Yeager if gets low on cash he can rest easy knowing he could sell thousands of those.


i66.photobucket.com
 
2010-01-01 06:23:32 PM
Sure sounds like fair use to me. There's no way on earth a public figure can win a lawsuit against a company merely for mentioning his name in a neutral context.
 
2010-01-01 06:26:03 PM
cazman: CheekyMunky: He's tough. He's an incredible pilot. He's led an astonishing life.

He is also, by all accounts I've heard, a monumental asshole.

My brother-in-law flies a Hawker for some law firm in Texas and the lawyers used to give Yeager a lift every once in awhile, I had started flying lessons about the same time in another state. I remembered an Oliphant cartoon from years earlier about Oliver North's pilot flying guns to the Contras in a C-130 by himself with nothing but "a pearl handled revolver and a Bible autographed by Chuck Yeager under the seat."

I found it amusing and asked my brother-in-law if he could get me one. A week later I had a pocket-sized Bible autographed by Chuck Yeager to me (Good Luck, Rick) that I carried in my chart case for over 20 years until we went to electronic charts. I still have it, but we don't carry charts anymore.

Yeager said it was the only Bible he had ever autographed. Every other pilot I've showed it to wanted one like it, so if Yeager if gets low on cash he can rest easy knowing he could sell thousands of those.

///heard the asshole stories as well


... I actually thought this was a cool story, bro.
 
2010-01-01 06:26:16 PM
Anaxphone: Errk: I heard he's doing some freelancing over Iran now.

Not sure if you're serious, but it wouldn't shock me.

He's one tough mofo.


Dude ejected from a plane, had his seat hit him and smother his face in burning explosives, and he still walked away from his landing.

To experience this for yourself: the next time you go skydiving, jump at 10,000 feet, then let someone hold a lit blowtorch to your face all the way down. When you're done, don't curl up into a ball and scream like a baby until the ambulance arrives, and don't pass out.
 
2010-01-01 06:26:27 PM
Somaticasual: Holy crap. Yeager's still alive? That's hardcore..you'd think "plane crash" would have been in the cards years ago.

Actually, after reading his autobiography, plane crash would be the last way I would expect him to go. farker could fly anything.
 
2010-01-01 06:27:36 PM
Yeager once flew a Mig with dials he couldn't read. You go on and try to find another pilot who'd fly a plane he's totally unfamiliar with while having instruments he can't read.

And yeah, he's not the kind of guy you want to piss off. Cause he just ain't gonna put up with your shiat.
 
2010-01-01 06:28:07 PM
When I earned my Yeager Award in Civil Air Patrol, I took it to a CAP convention and Yeager himself autographed it on my back. My pilot buddies were very impressed.

/cool story pard...
 
2010-01-01 06:28:34 PM

Oh, it's only regarding advertising. I was hoping for something along the lines of an employee of the airline gave him some bad service like the general public would get, but Yeager didn't go for it and brought the bad service to light.


I wonder if it's the last hour of a flight and Yeager wants to go to the bathroom, if they will say no...

 
2010-01-01 06:30:07 PM
Who?

Did this guy star in a reality show or something?
 
2010-01-01 06:30:32 PM
WhyteRaven74: Yeager once flew a Mig with dials he couldn't read. You go on and try to find another pilot who'd fly a plane he's totally unfamiliar with while having instruments he can't read.

blogs.bet.com
 
2010-01-01 06:30:52 PM
Riche: He should forget all about this suing nonsense by the first commercial break.

Last I heard his mental faculties are as sharp as ever. He could probably still recite all the specs of the high altitude F-104 he "borrowed" and then crashed.
 
2010-01-01 06:32:02 PM
Yeager's the Meister!
 
2010-01-01 06:32:03 PM
BKITU: To experience this for yourself: the next time you go skydiving, jump at 10,000 feet, then let someone hold a lit blowtorch to your face all the way down. When you're done, don't curl up into a ball and scream like a baby until the ambulance arrives, and don't pass out.

But I might break a nail!

/Happy New Year, man
 
2010-01-01 06:33:14 PM
Anaxphone: BKITU: To experience this for yourself: the next time you go skydiving, jump at 10,000 feet, then let someone hold a lit blowtorch to your face all the way down. When you're done, don't curl up into a ball and scream like a baby until the ambulance arrives, and don't pass out.

But I might break a nail!

/Happy New Year, man


You too, Oops.
 
2010-01-01 06:33:44 PM
Sorry, Charlie. Virgin's just stating history, not saying you endorse them.
 
2010-01-01 06:33:59 PM
skinink:
I wonder if it's the last hour of a flight and Yeager wants to go to the bathroom, if they will say no...


This "security precaution" makes no sense to me. They're locking the bathrooms during the descent phase when the atmospheric pressure in the cabin is closer to what is outside. If the underwear bomber had been intelligent, he would have detonated the device at a higher altitude thereby guaranteeing a catastrophic loss of pressure and causing the maximum amount of damage.

Instead they institute something idiotic to "protect" us, obviously never once consulting anyone with a shred of credibility.
 
2010-01-01 06:34:05 PM
Rev. Skarekroe: blogs.bet.com

very nicely done
 
2010-01-01 06:35:16 PM
BKITU: You too, Oops.

Yeah, I need to check back in on that page. I kinda forgot about it when some family sh*t went kablooey. Sorry.
 
2010-01-01 06:36:12 PM
Kreskin says: "dismissed, with prejudice."
 
2010-01-01 06:36:47 PM
Virgin should issue a sincere public apology and make a large donation to the Old Badass Home as a sign of respect. They're an aviation company and owe their very existence to men like him.
 
2010-01-01 06:37:30 PM
I would sue for the hideous ad copy: "Not unlike Buzz Aldrin or Chuck Yeager, you have the opportunity to be part of a monumental moment in air travel" by using wifi.
 
2010-01-01 06:37:46 PM
joeflood: Time to replace all the Chuck Norris jokes with Chuck Yeager jokes.

Sonic BOOM! Goes the dynamite?
 
2010-01-01 06:38:58 PM
WhyteRaven74: Yeager once flew a Mig with dials he couldn't read. You go on and try to find another pilot who'd fly a plane he's totally unfamiliar with while having instruments he can't read.

Bob Hoover. Had to jump over Germany one day and made his way to a Luftwaffe base and stole a Stuga in the middle of the night and flew it home.

Go ahead, look it up.

Hoover was also Yeagers back-up pilot the day Yeager broke the sound barrier.
 
2010-01-01 06:39:32 PM
WhyteRaven74: And yeah, he's not the kind of guy you want to piss off. Cause he just ain't gonna put up with your shiat.

Yea, 87 or not, that guy will swing on you if you piss him off.
 
2010-01-01 06:39:54 PM
Live in his home county and there are plenty of tough-as-nails old country boys around here.
 
2010-01-01 06:42:53 PM
Hmmm... methinks the way they worded it "Not unlike Buzz Aldrin or Chuck Yeager, you have the opportunity to be part of a monumental moment in air travel," may present them problems. Are they saying that you have the opportunity to be part of a monumental moment in air travel?? Or could one also reasonably assume that they mean Buzz Aldrin and Chuck Yeager are going to be a part of a monumental moment in air travel (with Virgin Airlines) and if you buy a ticket, you can be just like them??
I get what their intent was, but I don't see Yeager losing on this one. As the article stated, he has made it a point not to allow his name to be associated with anything within the airline industry.
 
2010-01-01 06:44:30 PM
I'd sue the writer of the article for "seldom if ever". Either he does or he doesn't, do the farking research.
 
2010-01-01 06:44:31 PM
CheekyMunky:
He's tough. He's an incredible pilot. He's led an astonishing life.

He is also, by all accounts I've heard, a monumental asshole.

So yeah, I wouldn't step on his toes if I could help it.


He's a great uncle of mine. I at least USED to have a slide rule that he used... haven't seen the sucker in ages though. Haven't seen him since I was a kid - he visited my mom and grandparents from time to time.

He was always very nice to me. Gave me the slide rule when I thought it was the coolest thing ever. Family stories about him are almost all very good, matching my impression. Stubborn old goat, though. You REALLY don't want to fark around with him. I remember him telling me that the best way to keep people from pushing you around was to make them regret it every time they tried. Good advice.

He didn't tolerate idiots well, as I recall. If you had a legitimate question, he'd talk to you, and answer it if he could. You really didn't want to go up to him and tell him you were a fan, and waste his time, though. He was always freaking busy, competent, and to the point. People wasting his time, playing one-upsmanship with him, and generally being a waste of skin would no doubt consider him an asshole.
 
2010-01-01 06:48:51 PM
CheekyMunky: He's tough. He's an incredible pilot. He's led an astonishing life.

He is also, by all accounts I've heard, a monumental asshole.

So yeah, I wouldn't step on his toes if I could help it.


I'm a military pilot, and thus have lots of military pilot friends... several of whom who have met Yeager at airshows and whatnot. To a man, they all said he is an asshole, even when talking shop with other military jet pilots.

He may have done this, that, and the other, but he's never landed a jet solo on an aircraft carrier. Take that, Yeager.
 
2010-01-01 06:48:52 PM
I wonder how he feels about Charlotte Yeager then...

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/Yes, it's from Japan
 
2010-01-01 06:50:03 PM
My brother-in-law is in the process of buying a gunsmithing business from a guy in Arizona who's in his late 80's and ornery as hell. Evidently, he's also a close friend of Chuck, and told my brother, "If some cowboy calls and just starts yammering on about his family, that's Chuck... just interrupt him and tell him I'll call him back, since he won't stop talking on his own."

//also a CAP cadet alum, Earhart with device... now I gotta go look up the Yeager award, I don't remember that one
 
2010-01-01 06:52:40 PM
screw yeager, he was made famous on the public dime, therefore reference to his achievements should be public domain.
 
2010-01-01 06:54:52 PM
Chuck's a Brigadier General?!?

I did not know that.
 
2010-01-01 06:55:34 PM
Hey, Uncle Chuck,

If you're reading this, please send me an e-mail at the address in my profile. I think Nancy thinks you died, for some reason. You might want to call her.

/ sorry, Fark... No other way to contact him.
 
2010-01-01 06:57:46 PM
i194.photobucket.com
Agrees
 
2010-01-01 07:01:34 PM
WhyteRaven74:
Last I heard his mental faculties are as sharp as ever. He could probably still recite all the specs of the high altitude F-104 he "borrowed" and then crashed.


Last I heard Yeager was out of it and was under the control of a young wife/companion, ala Groucho Marx. He certainly isn't flying any more after he ran off a runway several years back. I'd bet that this suit came from Yeager's people.
 
2010-01-01 07:04:45 PM
GeneralJim: / sorry, Fark... No other way to contact him.

Fark is to be used for nothing productive. You knew the rules going in.
 
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