Well that was an in depth link giving a fantastic explanation of the situation.

Sorry for the non-informational link. Here's a better one: Link (new window)

That "article" wasn't even a complete sentence!

I call shenanigans on it all. Shenanigans I say!

And furthermore, balderdash!

It dosent count if you murder brown people for money.

tallguywithglasseson: No just how exactly is a US District Judge part of the Justice Department?

The point was that the prosecutors used statements from the contractors that were supposedly coerced under threat of losing their jobs. I'm sure this is going to make us look great in the eyes of Iraqis.

Sgt Otter: Weaver95: well that article was chock full of details.

Apparently, lawyers for Blackwater got practically every incriminating statement suppressed, to the point the judge granted their motion to dismiss due to lack of evidence.

Yep, because the prosecutors threatened them with the loss of their jobs if they didn't make those statements, actions that they were advised against doing so by more senior prosecutors.

Weaver95: well that article was chock full of details.

Oddly it was more detail than I thought we'd ever see.

Makes sense. They fight the wars so we won't have to. What better way to keep your hounds in check than to smile as they ravage your dinner table?

The horror!

Unknown_Poltroon "It dosent count if you murder brown people for money"

Yes it does. It's just that they aren't worth as much per head

Is it bad when the headline has more words then the story linked?

BTW..here is a link to the Politico story which has more information:

Link (new window)

Immigration Judges are a part of the Justice Department, but they wouldn't have jurisdiction.

Unknown_Poltroon: It dosent count if you murder brown people for money.

Poppycock, I tell you!

This chicanery shant not be allowed to continue!

tallguywithglasseson: netweavr: Sorry for the non-informational link. Here's a better one: Link (new window)

Hey, no problem.

No just how exactly is a US District Judge part of the Justice Department?

The Judge acted appropriately. Read the link.

It's called rules of engagement, biatches.

Unknown_Poltroon: It dosent count if you murder brown people for money.

Or intimidate white voters.

What?
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Judge dismisses charges against Blackwater defendants (new window)

(AFP) - 56 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - In a rebuke to government prosecutors, a federal judge on Thursday dismissed criminal charges against five Blackwater security guards accused of fatally shooting 14 people in Baghdad in September 2007.

Judge Ricardo Urbina said government prosecutors violated the defendants rights by using incriminating statements they had made under immunity during a State Department probe to build their case.

"The government used the defendants' compelled statements to guide its charging decisions, to formulate its theory of the case, to develop investigatory leads, and ultimately to obtain the indictment in the case," Urbina ruled.

"In short, the government had utterly failed to prove that it made no impermissible use of the defendants' statement or that such use was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt."

The guards had been charged with killing 14 Iraqi civilians and wounding 18 others using gunfire and grenades at a busy Baghdad intersection.

They faced firearms and manslaughter charges.

Obama = bush 3

tenpoundsofcheese: Obama = bush 3

Hey genius - when did this case start?

For great justice!

BBC has a better article. (new window)

Sgt Otter: Weaver95: well that article was chock full of details.

Apparently, lawyers for Blackwater got practically every incriminating statement suppressed, to the point the judge granted their motion to dismiss due to lack of evidence.

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Cowboy Spencer: tenpoundsofcheese: Obama = bush 3

Hey genius - when did this case start?

It matters when the charges are dropped not when they are made
nice personal attack btw

Well I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of the 23 billion that went missing in Iraq, right? Just pop the gag order that Bush put in place on the 70+ court cases against contractors and let's get to the bottom of this mess, amiright?

America is such a joke.

tenpoundsofcheese: Cowboy Spencer: tenpoundsofcheese: Obama = bush 3

Hey genius - when did this case start?

It matters when the charges are dropped not when they are made
nice personal attack btw

Charges were dropped due to actions made by the State Department when? And idiotically ignored by the Justice Department when?

The Judge acted appropriately here. The case was sh*t.

netweavr: tenpoundsofcheese: Cowboy Spencer: tenpoundsofcheese: Obama = bush 3

Hey genius - when did this case start?

It matters when the charges are dropped not when they are made
nice personal attack btw

Charges were droppedCase was dismissed due to actions made by the State Department when? And idiotically ignored by the Justice Department when?

The Judge acted appropriately here. The case was sh*t.

/FTFM

tallguywithglasseson: Sounds like a lot of eff ups between the State and Justice departments, but "Christmas present while you were diverted" is very misleading. Makes is sound like the Justice department acted (a la Friday press releases) over the holidays, willingly letting them go.

Fair enough, I forced the headline.

netweavr: Sorry for the non-informational link. Here's a better one: Link (new window)

From your link:
It was unclear what the ruling means for a sixth Blackwater guard, Jeremy Ridgeway, who turned on his former colleagues and pleaded guilty to killing one Iraqi and wounding another.

Awkward.

BREAKING NEWS - government is corrupt!

/shocked

tinyarena: netweavr: Sorry for the non-informational link. Here's a better one: Link (new window)

From your link:
It was unclear what the ruling means for a sixth Blackwater guard, Jeremy Ridgeway, who turned on his former colleagues and pleaded guilty to killing one Iraqi and wounding another.

Awkward.

It's a lesson to those who break the silence and "snitch" by telling the truth.

hasty ambush: Unknown_Poltroon: It dosent count if you murder brown people for money.

Or intimidate white voters.

It is that easy to get Republican voters to turn away?

lobootomy:

To be fair to their lawyers, they wouldn't have been able to do that if the prosecutors hadn't based their entire case on statements they obtained by offering immunity for the statements.

I mean, this was a softball.

The problem arises when, rather than taking a hard look at prosecutors' and investigators' practices and competence, we respond as a society by making it more difficult to 'get away' with wrongdoing.

God bless that Judge !

tallguywithglasseson: netweavr: Fair enough, I forced the headline.

lol, sorry not trying to be overly critical, you gotta get your greenlights somehow :) It's just that from reading it I was expecting to see that the DoJ had purposefully let them go, which was pissing me off a whole hell of a lot more. Though there's really still no good coming from this.

IMO, they botched the case on purpose.

The US is going to have a hell of a time hiring mercenaries if we just turn around and prosecute them. It's a whole clusterf*ck of wrongs trying to force a right.

Cowboy Spencer: tenpoundsofcheese: Obama = bush 3

Hey genius - when did this case start?

Ps. Check out John Yoo's comments on huffington post
he says the same thing

Voodoo Donut: Unknown_Poltroon: It dosent count if you murder brown people for money.

Poppycock, I tell you!

This chicanery shant not be allowed to continue!

Let us join in solidarity, and shake our tiny fists in unison!

I'm betting some American servicemen are going to get blowed up in retaliation for this shiat