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(Some Guy)   Attorney on board Flight 253 claims The Undibomber™ and The Sharp-Dressed Man™ had a third accomplice: The Man In Orange©, whose existence the FBI is trying to cover up. Bonus: Photo of hot chick and green beers   (mlive.com) divider line 95
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2009-12-31 02:26:04 PM
that's interesting.
 
wee [TotalFark]
2009-12-31 03:08:42 PM
FTFA: Today is the day that I realized that my own country is lying to me and all of my fellow Americans

It's sad that this guy has apparently been that delusional his entire life.

Oh, the tooth fairy isn't real, either.
 
2009-12-31 03:26:44 PM
Your definition of "hot" leaves much to be desired, smitty.
 
2009-12-31 04:38:37 PM
Some People have said that Flight 253 left a contrail over MI before landing. Other People have theorized that chemicals released in this contrail are responsible for paranoid delusions among MI citizenry.
 
2009-12-31 04:48:59 PM
Say what you want about the guy, he's got guts to be telling the story. Plus he's credible.

If what he's saying ends up being the truth, a bunch of people have a bunch of explaining to do. If he's correct, heads need to roll on this (for those of you from Saudi Arabia, I mean that strictly figuratively, not literally), as it would appear that the ball was dropped and dropped big time.
 
2009-12-31 05:23:34 PM
www.corbisimages.com

"Don't even start with people not listening about conspiracies, dude."
 
2009-12-31 05:24:38 PM
I was kind of liking "crotch bomber", but "undibomber" is excellent. I'm undecided which I like more. I think "crotch bomber" sounds funnier, but "undibomber" is more clever.
 
2009-12-31 05:32:44 PM
Reminds me of the story about the heroic Texan who stopped some terrorists from doing a dry run on a plane Link (new window)

And the one the TSA doesn't want you to hear, about them taking a woman's son! Link (new window)
 
rmz
2009-12-31 05:38:12 PM
tallguywithglasseson: Reminds me of the story about the heroic Texan who stopped some terrorists from doing a dry run on a plane Link (new window)

My favorite part of that article:

"In my opinion, the muslims are all getting very brave now, since they have one of their own in the white house"
 
2009-12-31 06:04:25 PM
For the Customs/FBI story to be true, you would have to believe that a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, would want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks! That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm an FBI/Customs agent, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense!
 
2009-12-31 07:41:06 PM
The lack of news on this story seems troubling.

In my opinion, they seem to be withholding a lot. Maybe there is concerns of a second attempt and the guy they arrested is being held as a means of information gathering. Kind of like that Sheikh Mohammad dude, and how they allegedly pumped him... and pumped him... and pumped him for info that led to arrests.

So the second guy is arrested, but they don't wanna release it because it blows any leads they have about any other credible terrorist attacks that were being planned. If so, the dude in TFA is an idiot of monumental proportions.

That said, until this is picked up by a fact checking, credible site other than the dude's blog, and other witnesses besides his wife decide to corroborate his story - it's complete BS to me. I'd also need my momma to be there, and a priest, and like four TV camera crews, and a polygraph, and...

/tin foil hats are for people who can't afford radar jamming iPod earbuds.
//aliens are reading your thoughts
 
2009-12-31 08:17:24 PM
His story is credible.
 
2009-12-31 08:30:41 PM
Let me expand on that a little.
Without going into too much detail, I was on an overseas flight - which I regularly took - and we landed for a scheduled stopover. I just want to add that this flight was the only one going into the country by a US carrier and was made only once a week.

All Americans were asked to disembark and we were placed in a room separate from other passengers. Luggage was pulled out of the plane thrown on the tarmac, and the plane was surrounded by machine carrying police(?) and dogs. We were questioned, showed ID, and after some time, allowed to return to the plane. Those questioning us were Americans, not natives of the country we were currently in.

The next flight, same plane, had a bomb on board. It was located in the seat which would have been directly behind me. The explosion caused a large hole in the side of the plane (it was at low altitude, descending), A two year old child was sucked out of the plane. I can't remember if there were other casualties.
 
zz9
2009-12-31 08:32:05 PM
tallguywithglasseson:
And the one the TSA doesn't want you to hear, about them taking a woman's son! Link (new window)


The TSA released the video of what actually happened. The woman made it all up, her son was never taken from her, she never phoned her husband during the incident and the kid was never out of her sight. She made it all up and was caught out, and then tried to say that she was still right.
 
zz9
2009-12-31 08:38:47 PM
tallguywithglasseson:
And the one the TSA doesn't want you to hear, about them taking a woman's son! Link (new window)


It gets better. When she was caught out lots of people commented on her blog calling her out for making it all up. She has deleted all those comments from her blog and only left the comments agreeing with her.
 
2009-12-31 09:15:37 PM
I'm not disagreeing with you. There seems to be a LOT more going on here than what is being provided to the American public. But whether the lapse in information is due to an ongoing investigation (where said information would harm or hamper efforts) or if it really is some massive conspiracy theory we were supposed to buy into is where it loses me.

For one, there haven't been any credible news sources jumping at this. We got eyewitness testimony blogging about it. This is pretty big story to be flitting about with details on. That nobody has jumped on board to report it as fact is where it loses me. You can vouch for the dude all you want, but it raises further questions why mainstream media of any sort won't go near it.

Citation would be nice. What's the link to the blog about the lady and her son? Where's the link to the story about a child supposedly getting sucked out of the plane. Where's the link to any kind of confirmation of an explosion occurring on the plane.

The explosion part is definitely where you tinfoil rascals lose me. Didn't this same plane make the news the very next day for de-planing an unruly flier... if there was structural damage from an explosion, why was it flying the very next day? Until its cited, verified, or provided credibility by someone other than some dude who can just post whatever he wants - its all just puffs of smoke. Grab at it all you want.
 
2009-12-31 09:54:47 PM
RoosteCogburn: The child getting sucked out of the plane was TWA Flight 840 in 1986. The point I was making in post was that, while this incident was reported, the authorities were aware that "something" was going to happen on that route. What happened in Detroit is nothing new; access to the information that it occurred is what is different. We've been targeted-as civilians- for decades but, it's only since 2001 that Americans have been paying attention.
 
2009-12-31 10:40:45 PM
rmz: tallguywithglasseson: Reminds me of the story about the heroic Texan who stopped some terrorists from doing a dry run on a plane Link (new window)

My favorite part of that article:

"In my opinion, the muslims are all getting very brave now, since they have one of their own in the white house"


Boy, it's a good thing we had a Cowboy-Millionaire-Fighter Pilot-Evangelical Christian-Texan in the White House on 9/11 to keep them scared!
 
2009-12-31 11:42:39 PM
I tried to care, but that guy's writing style and paragraph formatting just got way too tl;dr on me in a hurry. Anyone want to summarize?
 
2010-01-01 01:11:11 AM
schief2: I tried to care, but that guy's writing style and paragraph formatting just got way too tl;dr on me in a hurry. Anyone want to summarize?

A passenger on the airplane alleges that there was a second bomber on board and that he was standing with the other passengers in an isolated part of the terminal for 20 minutes until he was pulled aside and taken into an interview room and then was led away in handcuffs.
 
2010-01-01 04:12:53 AM
Sigh. Art Bell, where are you when we need you the most?
 
2010-01-01 04:15:19 AM
RoosterCogburn: That said, until this is picked up by a fact checking, credible site other than the dude's blog, and other witnesses besides his wife decide to corroborate his story - it's complete BS to me. I'd also need my momma to be there, and a priest, and like four TV camera crews, and a polygraph, and...

Are you aware that Robert Blake has been accused of murdering his wife?
 
2010-01-01 04:19:49 AM
It was the one-armed man.
 
2010-01-01 04:21:40 AM
Was he... puerto rican?
 
2010-01-01 04:22:12 AM
I found the green beers, but where's the hot chick? All I could find was two dudes holding up their green beers.
 
2010-01-01 04:26:13 AM
dyn.politico.com
R.I.P. Kurt Haskell
 
2010-01-01 04:27:53 AM
What does this have to do with Brett Favre?
 
2010-01-01 04:41:35 AM
FTA:
Mr. Ron Smith's third version of the story is an absolute inplausible joke.


bp2.blogger.com
inplausible? that unpossible!
 
2010-01-01 05:06:29 AM
I could put a beagle in a blond wig and submitter would think it was a hot girl.
 
2010-01-01 05:19:33 AM
Taint-Bomber FTW!
 
2010-01-01 05:26:06 AM
What was the quote by the character played by Dennis Hopper in the movie "Blue Velvet"?

/obscure?
 
2010-01-01 05:36:16 AM
Well! Isn't that nice?
 
2010-01-01 05:38:44 AM
Hot?
Her head looks like it got caught in a trash compactor.
I would need at least ten times of whatever swill she is holding to "hit that."
 
2010-01-01 05:58:43 AM
"Seriously Mr. Ron Smith, how stupid do you think the American public is?", errrr.
 
GW
2010-01-01 06:00:58 AM
Wanted for questioning:

www3.whig.com
 
2010-01-01 06:04:32 AM
Undibomber? What about jockey-bomber? Brits, shreddie-bomber?
 
2010-01-01 06:15:14 AM
It's obvious that this was a coordinated attack planned by the obama administration.
 
2010-01-01 08:03:11 AM
Or, the guy was detained for Flying Whilst Brown or Having Funny Smelling Bags and was later released after questioning so no story to tell.
 
2010-01-01 08:03:32 AM
It was probably someone with outstanding parking tickets. And they're not commenting on this particular aspect of the case because they don't have to.
 
2010-01-01 08:11:05 AM
The government lies all the time. Sometimes for a good reason. The agent who hauled him out in handcuffs in front of everybody is probably the one who screwed up.
 
2010-01-01 08:45:13 AM
Coming on a Bicycle: It was probably someone with outstanding parking tickets. And they're not commenting on this particular aspect of the case because they don't have to.

badhatharry: The government lies all the time. Sometimes for a good reason. The agent who hauled him out in handcuffs in front of everybody is probably the one who screwed up.

Alexander Pope;

A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again.

...to summarize... "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing"

Quite possibly there are some things going on that Big Brother thinks we are better off not knowing about, for a variety of reasons.

I am not a supporter of this sort of thing, but as an individual I know there is little I can do about it. One thing I can do is limit risk by not flying on US carriers, since they seem to be the most often targeted (not surprisingly). Not a solution, I know, but it might help keep myself and my loved ones from exposure to radical fanaticism and institutional/governmental incompetance.

/What a shiatty world we have made for ourselves.
// Happy New Year.
 
2010-01-01 08:51:42 AM
badhatharry: The government lies all the time. Sometimes for a good reason. The agent who hauled him out in handcuffs in front of everybody is probably the one who screwed up.

I'm not sure why the linked blog didn't consider that the Indian man was innocent and arrested on accident, and the FBI was covering it up just so they wouldn't look bad for arresting some random brown skinned person. That's the more likely story. If there's a coverup, it's something mundane like that.

If that guy was a real bomber and had a real bomb, it's incredibly unlikely that those people wouldn't have all gotten blown up in the terminal Or did his bomb, coincidentally, also fail? Also, what exactly was the plan: crotch bomber blows up the plane, and indian bomber does what now? Two bombs on the same plane doesn't make much sense - and a suitcase bomb? Are we supposed to believe that getting a suitcase bomb on an airplane is even possible in this day and age? Seriously, forget it - doesn't make sense.

The only possible accomplice was the guy who helped the "refugee" get on the plane - and even he could be an unwitting stooge, a bleeding heart who just wanted to help the poor guy.
 
2010-01-01 09:10:32 AM
undi-bomber? was it fruit-of-the-BOOM?
 
2010-01-01 09:18:10 AM
if_i_really_have_to: Or, the guy was detained for Flying Whilst Brown or Having Funny Smelling Bags and was later released after questioning so no story to tell.

Absurd.

Read the article and THINK sheeple.

"Man in orange"

He was arrested for a fashion crime.

/always wanted to fake troll with "sheeple"
//overwhelming glee
 
2010-01-01 09:23:05 AM
So what is Nancy Drew Haskell's point? "I solved THE TRUTH!1!!"
 
2010-01-01 09:32:18 AM
superdolfan1: Say what you want about the guy, he's got guts to be telling the story. Plus he's credible.

Did I miss the revolution? When did lawyers become credible?
 
2010-01-01 09:42:27 AM
badhatharry: The government lies all the time. Sometimes for a good reason.

There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they Do... Not... Know about it!
 
2010-01-01 09:57:12 AM
Cromar: badhatharry: The government lies all the time. Sometimes for a good reason. The agent who hauled him out in handcuffs in front of everybody is probably the one who screwed up.

I'm not sure why the linked blog didn't consider that the Indian man was innocent and arrested on accident, and the FBI was covering it up just so they wouldn't look bad for arresting some random brown skinned person. That's the more likely story. If there's a coverup, it's something mundane like that.

If that guy was a real bomber and had a real bomb, it's incredibly unlikely that those people wouldn't have all gotten blown up in the terminal Or did his bomb, coincidentally, also fail? Also, what exactly was the plan: crotch bomber blows up the plane, and indian bomber does what now? Two bombs on the same plane doesn't make much sense - and a suitcase bomb? Are we supposed to believe that getting a suitcase bomb on an airplane is even possible in this day and age? Seriously, forget it - doesn't make sense.

The only possible accomplice was the guy who helped the "refugee" get on the plane - and even he could be an unwitting stooge, a bleeding heart who just wanted to help the poor guy.


You are assuming a typical "bomb". Anyone whose been in a decent chemistry lab can tell you it is very easy to make a good explosive. We made one in high school that would have been pretty easy to get past the TSA and a rather small quantity literally destroyed a large industrial ventilation hood.

Having two bombers makes perfect sense. In the first guy doesn't make it on the plane or is stopped, the second would, in theory, be able to complete the mission.

That is not to say any of what this guy says is true because I simply don't know. But it does make sense. What doesn't make sense is his insistence these guys were Indian. Unless he saw their passports I doubt he could be sure of that.
 
2010-01-01 10:06:42 AM
TwoHead: Some People have said that Flight 253 left a contrail over MI before landing. Other People have theorized that chemicals released in this contrail are responsible for paranoid delusions among MI citizenry.

Or it could be...fuel.
 
2010-01-01 10:06:53 AM
What this joker doesn't realize is that the FBI has lied about this incident the whole time, it's a sad excuse to save face ever since the Bush Administration created the absurdity known as the Department of Homeland Security.

The Hannity drones will blame Obama's team for not doing the intelligence work correctly, but they forget that it was Bush's administration that set up the protocols we've been using since 9/11.
 
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