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(The Consumerist)   Mugging victim knows that her iPhone is being sent to Apple for replacement by the mugger. Apple care? Not much   (consumerist.com) divider line 129
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2009-12-31 12:47:14 PM
She couldn't be bothered to fill out a police report or attempt to ID the robber, but now she wants a phone? How is anyone to know she didn't just sell the phone and now want both the money and the phone?
 
2009-12-31 12:51:30 PM
Don't own an iPhone in Brooklyn. Simple.
 
2009-12-31 01:03:12 PM
ecmoRandomNumbers: Don't own an iPhone in Brooklyn. Simple.

Apple makes it easier by refusing to sell to people in NYC.
 
2009-12-31 01:12:09 PM
firefly212: She couldn't be bothered to fill out a police report or attempt to ID the robber, but now she wants a phone?

If there's no police report, then it didn't happen. That's why police reports exist.

Oh, a Consumerist link. Makes sense somehow.
 
2009-12-31 01:23:00 PM
RoxtarRyan: ecmoRandomNumbers: Don't own an iPhone in Brooklyn. Simple.

Apple makes it easier by refusing to sell to people in NYC.


it was AT&T, not Apple, and that's not true anymore.
 
2009-12-31 01:49:40 PM
Kyosuke: If there's no police report, then it didn't happen. That's why police reports exist.

Yeah, but she does have a point that the report was going to be useless and time consuming. She probably never expected it to show up like this.
 
2009-12-31 02:23:43 PM
Gig103: Kyosuke: If there's no police report, then it didn't happen. That's why police reports exist.

Yeah, but she does have a point that the report was going to be useless and time consuming. She probably never expected it to show up like this.


All paperwork is useless and time consuming, up until the point where you need it.
 
2009-12-31 03:10:22 PM
For someone who had no time to do a police report it seems like she had hours upon hours, upon hours, and even days to biatch to Apple and the police on the phone, and in person. Even had time to write The Consumerist.
 
2009-12-31 03:31:15 PM
Look, no police report, any asshole could call in and say "My phone was stolen", and get a new phone when they actually did something like drop it in the crapper or run over it with their car.

What the hell does she expect?
 
2009-12-31 04:15:33 PM
Gig103: Kyosuke: If there's no police report, then it didn't happen. That's why police reports exist.

Yeah, but she does have a point that the report was going to be useless and time consuming. She probably never expected it to show up like this.


This. The last time I filed a police report because someone had thrown a rock into my car (hundreds of dollars worth of damage, by rock I mean rock the size of a basketball), the police came, said they couldn't do anything about it. Didn't do any good at all and took way too long.
 
2009-12-31 04:16:09 PM
styckx: For someone who had no time to do a police report it seems like she had hours upon hours, upon hours, and even days to biatch to Apple and the police on the phone, and in person. Even had time to write The Consumerist.

Saved me the typing time. Plenty of time to biatch after the fact.
 
2009-12-31 04:18:00 PM
Actually filing a police report is generally required for insurance purposes to replace anything broken or stolen out of a car. You are showing you did your due dilligence.

If she had filed a police report when the phone was stolen then she probably could have had the police contact Apple.

Oddly enough if you are mugged you generally call the police. She probably left the phone at a bar.
 
2009-12-31 04:18:44 PM
I didn't file a police report they can't do anything. because this whole story is a fabrication and I'm trying to get a free phone.
 
2009-12-31 04:19:03 PM
Lol, I actually work for att&t in the cancelations department...kick...etc..

It really is amazing how mnay people open 5 lines with att&t buying 5 iphones, and mysteriously they are having to move to india 4 days later. so they call and cancel the acct
 
2009-12-31 04:19:32 PM
It's from the Consumerist, which means it's probably not true.
 
2009-12-31 04:20:02 PM
Especially if someone had stole my expensive electronic device which had a built in GPS feature I think I'd bother to fill out a police report. An iphone seems like a really easy thing to get back.
 
2009-12-31 04:21:42 PM
allthebetter: Lol, I actually work for att&t in the cancelations department...kick...etc..

It really is amazing how mnay people open 5 lines with att&t buying 5 iphones, and mysteriously they are having to move to india 4 days later. so they call and cancel the acct


I left them in 2006(Cingular) and I had a lady call me in screaming she wanted a new phone, because she was frying chicken and dropped the phone in the grease, and the batter blew up and the acid scarred the pot.

She wanted a new phone, a new pot, and money for a new chicken, becase we had ruined her dinner.
 
2009-12-31 04:23:14 PM
I wonder if sites like Consumerist and "consumer advocate" journalism on TV news is making people think that you don't have to go through any sort of channel or follow company policy to address an issue -- rather, just make noise and go the media with something, and you will be given exactly what you want.
 
2009-12-31 04:24:26 PM
theflatline: allthebetter: Lol, I actually work for att&t in the cancelations department...kick...etc..

It really is amazing how mnay people open 5 lines with att&t buying 5 iphones, and mysteriously they are having to move to india 4 days later. so they call and cancel the acct

I left them in 2006(Cingular) and I had a lady call me in screaming she wanted a new phone, because she was frying chicken and dropped the phone in the grease, and the batter blew up and the acid scarred the pot.

She wanted a new phone, a new pot, and money for a new chicken, becase we had ruined her dinner.


Fried chicken is serious business.
 
2009-12-31 04:24:58 PM
theflatline: If she had filed a police report when the phone was stolen then she probably could have had the police contact Apple.

Read much?

TFA:So I head to the police precinct where an officer calls the rep I spoke to last (aka the authorities speaking to Apple). The officer spends about an hour on the phone with Apple telling them that once the current holder of the phone ships the phone back to Apple, they should ship me the replacement. He gets the same answer I got--they will not do anything

Of course, this all assumes the accuracy of this lady's story, but given that the cops called it doesn't seem like a police report would've helped much. Plus, can't she file one now? I have to imagine that the statute of limitations on theft is longer than a few weeks.

Also, I wonder why the cops can't just track the GPS on the phone or get the address where the replacement phone is being shipped.
 
2009-12-31 04:26:04 PM
Kyosuke: firefly212: She couldn't be bothered to fill out a police report or attempt to ID the robber, but now she wants a phone?

If there's no police report, then it didn't happen. That's why police reports exist.

Oh, a Consumerist link. Makes sense somehow.


This! Consumerist is more of an editorial blog than a credible source of news.
 
2009-12-31 04:26:11 PM
Just trying to play devil's advocate here, but so what if she did file a police report? I mean, if she is a liar and just sold the phone, what was there to stop her filing a police report and lying to them too?

In either instance the only thing she has to loose is that the person she sold it too can come forward with proof of the sale. The only difference filing the police report would make is that she may suffer more consequenses if proved to be lying (presuming the police charge her with wasting police time). Other than that, what difference does it make? It's not like a police report is a holy document that proves she is saintly and could not possibly be trying to dupe anyone.
 
2009-12-31 04:26:46 PM
allthebetter: Lol, I actually work for att&t in the cancelations department...kick...etc..

ATT&T? American Telephone, Telegraph and what?
 
2009-12-31 04:28:29 PM
firefly212: She couldn't be bothered to fill out a police report or attempt to ID the robber, but now she wants a phone? How is anyone to know she didn't just sell the phone and now want both the money and the phone?


Yet she can be bothered to spend 12 hours on the phone? I call BS
 
2009-12-31 04:29:18 PM
I don't understand why they wouldn't just automatically send the replacement phone to her. If it's her account, then she can have the phone sent anywhere she wants, right?
 
2009-12-31 04:29:23 PM
Consumerist, for farking retarded people who can't admit they're at fault.
 
2009-12-31 04:30:02 PM
Ok...they have the number from the email, and know it isn't from AT&T.

So why don't they call T-mobile and find out who's number that is.
 
2009-12-31 04:30:18 PM
theflatline: allthebetter: Lol, I actually work for att&t in the cancelations department...kick...etc..

It really is amazing how mnay people open 5 lines with att&t buying 5 iphones, and mysteriously they are having to move to india 4 days later. so they call and cancel the acct

I left them in 2006(Cingular) and I had a lady call me in screaming she wanted a new phone, because she was frying chicken and dropped the phone in the grease, and the batter blew up and the acid scarred the pot.

She wanted a new phone, a new pot, and money for a new chicken, becase we had ruined her dinner.


Some of the stories are really great to hear...

/the criers really get on my nerves though

im14u2c: allthebetter: Lol, I actually work for att&t in the cancelations department...kick...etc..

ATT&T? American Telephone, Telegraph and what?


sorry, got keyboard happy there..AT&T...
 
2009-12-31 04:31:48 PM
She sounds fat.

Maybe if she she didn't come across as a complete coont she might have found someone willing to help.
 
2009-12-31 04:31:56 PM
One and a half hour to go before the new year.

/Yeah off topic
//So what ?
 
2009-12-31 04:32:28 PM
theflatline: allthebetter: Lol, I actually work for att&t in the cancelations department...kick...etc..

It really is amazing how mnay people open 5 lines with att&t buying 5 iphones, and mysteriously they are having to move to india 4 days later. so they call and cancel the acct

I left them in 2006(Cingular) and I had a lady call me in screaming she wanted a new phone, because she was frying chicken and dropped the phone in the grease, and the batter blew up and the acid scarred the pot.

She wanted a new phone, a new pot, and money for a new chicken, becase we had ruined her dinner.


www.trivialoft.net
 
2009-12-31 04:32:48 PM
proletarian: theflatline: allthebetter: Lol, I actually work for att&t in the cancelations department...kick...etc..

It really is amazing how mnay people open 5 lines with att&t buying 5 iphones, and mysteriously they are having to move to india 4 days later. so they call and cancel the acct

I left them in 2006(Cingular) and I had a lady call me in screaming she wanted a new phone, because she was frying chicken and dropped the phone in the grease, and the batter blew up and the acid scarred the pot.

She wanted a new phone, a new pot, and money for a new chicken, becase we had ruined her dinner.

Fried chicken is serious business.


Especially chicken with exploding batter.
 
2009-12-31 04:33:21 PM
Tom Paulin: Just trying to play devil's advocate here, but so what if she did file a police report? I mean, if she is a liar and just sold the phone, what was there to stop her filing a police report and lying to them too?

A police report would probably go a long way towards getting a court order to make AT&T give her the identity of the alleged thief. At which point he can admit to stealing the phone, or claim she sold it to him. Of course without the police report and the witnesses it would have probably included from the original mugging I see this at best ending in civil court where they debate whether or not she sold him the phone.
 
2009-12-31 04:34:28 PM
It doesn't matter how right it would be to send her the phone, the issue for Apple is that they do not want to be in the business of recovering stolen phones.

Obviously your phone company no matter who they are is capable of telling you if your stolen phone has been reactivated.

But it costs them customer service hours and opens them to liability if they are spoofed into helping a con man steal a legit phone.

So they just choose not to do anything about it.

I have 10 phones on my account, most of them for employees. I buy used phones for 15 bucks on ebay, plug in whatever sim card I have laying around and reactivate them, then I label the phone with a sharpie and destroy all serial numbers and other identification on the phone. That way even if it is stolen they will find it very difficult to get Nextel to reactivate it.

occasionally I lose track of the number for a certain phone and have to pitch it, but it is still cheaper than new phones in the hands of my employees even if I pay extra for insurance.
 
2009-12-31 04:34:54 PM
In all fairness, a police report would get the police to do nothing. And wasting an hour, both ways to file it and trying to identify the unidentifiable at the expensive of a grade in a class does not make much sense. (Had a high end stereo system stolen - head unit, CDs, amps, speakers.. PERFECT fingerprints were on the glass they pried out to get arms in and unlock van... police did nothing).
If Apple is going to be in possession of HER property, I do not see why she does not file charges on Apple for receipt of stolen property. No way they could get out of it then. And, I would think accessory after the fact might come into question.
 
2009-12-31 04:34:59 PM
She knows his address and phone number, why not just get some friends together and pay him a visit? Or at least put his address and phone number online for everyone to see.
 
2009-12-31 04:35:24 PM
oren0: theflatline: If she had filed a police report when the phone was stolen then she probably could have had the police contact Apple.

Read much?

TFA:So I head to the police precinct where an officer calls the rep I spoke to last (aka the authorities speaking to Apple). The officer spends about an hour on the phone with Apple telling them that once the current holder of the phone ships the phone back to Apple, they should ship me the replacement. He gets the same answer I got--they will not do anything

Of course, this all assumes the accuracy of this lady's story, but given that the cops called it doesn't seem like a police report would've helped much. Plus, can't she file one now? I have to imagine that the statute of limitations on theft is longer than a few weeks.

Also, I wonder why the cops can't just track the GPS on the phone or get the address where the replacement phone is being shipped.


I would imagine she would have at least a year to file a report. Is a stolen iPhone a felony? How much do they cost?

And she's not trying to get a new phone, like others are suggesting. She's trying to get them to return her original phone. But, that's what insurance is for.
 
2009-12-31 04:36:01 PM
So what future headlines can we expect for The Consumerist?

img1.fark.net Customer rightfully punches out evil store manager, arrested for "assault"
 
2009-12-31 04:36:18 PM
justoneznot: She knows his address and phone number, why not just get some friends together and pay him a visit? .

Isn't that how justice is normally served in brooklyn?
 
2009-12-31 04:37:14 PM
im14u2c: allthebetter: Lol, I actually work for att&t in the cancelations department...kick...etc..

ATT&T? American Telephone, Telegraph and what?


Testicles.

"ATT&T, We Got a Lotta Balls."
 
2009-12-31 04:37:37 PM
allthebetter: sorry, got keyboard happy there..AT&T...

I was thinking, it'd be funnier if it was ATT&A... "All Things Tits & Ass". Of course, knowing them, that'd be...

spatula-city.org and spatula-city.org....
 
2009-12-31 04:37:42 PM
How much is the Consumerist paying Drew to have so many greenlights?
 
2009-12-31 04:37:47 PM
This bizatch sounds like the typical American who expects everything to be done for them, and pisses blood when it's not. She can't spend an hour going to the police station to file a report, but Apple/ATT are supposed to go in with a SWAT team to retrieve her phone. You're in college, but you were somehow able to afford an iPhone, then immediately replace it with a Crackberry when you got mugged. Piss off, princess; no sympathy here.
 
2009-12-31 04:38:23 PM
zamboni: "ATT&T, We Got a Lotta Balls."

Where the Bell system gets its Balls?
 
2009-12-31 04:39:41 PM
InfamousBLT: Gig103: Kyosuke: If there's no police report, then it didn't happen. That's why police reports exist.

Yeah, but she does have a point that the report was going to be useless and time consuming. She probably never expected it to show up like this.

This. The last time I filed a police report because someone had thrown a rock into my car (hundreds of dollars worth of damage, by rock I mean rock the size of a basketball), the police came, said they couldn't do anything about it. Didn't do any good at all and took way too long.


At least the police came. I had my window smashed on my car once. I immediately called the cops and was told to go to their website and file a report. Figured my insurance might want me to do that, so I did. Turned out the cost of a window was well below my deductible so my insurance company didn't do anything other than offer to give me the name of a good auto glass company.
 
2009-12-31 04:39:58 PM
Gig103: Yeah, but she does have a point that the report was going to be useless and time consuming. She probably never expected it to show up like this.

No shiat. In seattle you have to wait for days on an absurd voice mail tree where they describe - very quickly - the address to WRITE A LETTER to to request a copy of the report. No option to repeat the address so you can get it all - you just start all over. When the request form arrives by snail mail you send it back by snail mail and wait 2-3 weeks for the actual report. I did this twice for my company's stolen tools. Both times they sent THE WRONG REPORT. All in all it took 2 months and I never did get the correct report. biatch has a point.
 
2009-12-31 04:40:09 PM
She lost it, and is being lazy. And is plain stupid

Until the cops arrive at my house, they tell me that since I didn't file a police report they can't do anything. I didn't file it because in order to file one, I would have had to go to a precinct downtown (like an hour away) look through books of pictures to try to ID the thief, whose face I only saw from the side for a millisecond. And really, what would a police report do for an iPhone that was stolen on a NYC subway a week before Christmas?(plus i had a final that night)
 
2009-12-31 04:40:37 PM
The 3GS iPhone has a find my phone feature. You turn it on in settings in the maill section. It must be turned on before the phone goes missing. Phoned have been located this way. One using a Macbook to drive to the given location the phone kept traveling slowly and then came to a fixed position. This was a bus stop with one person waiting. Walking to the guy they asked if he had found an iPhone. He fessed up he had and handed it to the owner. Turns out he was a busboy working the tables at the restaurant where they left it.

Story from TUAW.com a while back if I remember correctly.

The consensus was they were idiot the way they went about recovery. One commenter said they would not drive through that part of town.

I know cool story bro.
 
2009-12-31 04:40:52 PM
You'd think there would be an app for this sort of thing.
 
2009-12-31 04:41:32 PM
Oh, and the police report doesn't show that you did your due diligence. The insureres know how hard many police departments make it to get the report and that a high percentage of people will just give up the claim. Not saying I'd do it differently, just that you know it's true.
 
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