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(MSNBC)   Pop quiz mother farker, the bill is $19.97 and I give you a $20 bill. How much change do I get back? Seriously, I don't know   (redtape.msnbc.com ) divider line 719
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2009-12-30 10:26:29 AM  
I bought donuts and stuff for the office at Dunkin a few weeks back. The bill came to $16.00 exactly, and I handed the girl a $20 bill.

Then I found another $1 bill in my wallet so I gave her that too. She pushed the dollar back at me. "That's too much money." she said.

"Well," I said, "I just want a $5 bill."

"I'm sorry," she said, "I'm not allowed to make change at this register."

Really.
 
2009-12-30 10:29:50 AM  
What i lack in math skills i more than make up for in my lack of ability to pronounce polysyllabic words.

See, every time I read my post over again it makes me cry.

so take that, mathwad.
 
2009-12-30 10:32:30 AM  
Not quite subby.

FTFA:

As I talked about systemic hidden fee fraud all around the country, many, many friends (and even co-workers) found me and asked in hushed tones, "What's a mutual fund?" "What's comprehensive and collision?" "What's a mortgage point?"

Do you want to know when I learned Algebra 1? Geometry? Calculus? Linear Algebra? Differential Equations? I can tell you the year, what institution I was in, and probably the teacher.

Do you want to know when I learned about mutual funds, mortgage points, etc? Not in any academic institution.

So what do you expect of people? I know jack shiat about ancient chineese history and I'll never know about it if I don't have a reason to go learn about it or am required to do so by an academic institution. Similarly, I knew jack shiat about mortgage points until I was going to get a mortgage for a house. I currently know jack shiat about mutual funds, but given where I am in my life I should really get on the ball and learn about them on my own.


Want to correct the problem? Mandatory Home-Economics classes in high school that teach these things.
 
2009-12-30 10:42:21 AM  
Talon: Want to correct the problem? Mandatory Home-Economics classes in high school that teach these things.

Is that on the standardized test that determines how much money the school gets? If not don't expect the kids to know it.

\Just like art
\\And music
\\\And physical education
 
2009-12-30 10:43:10 AM  
I was told there would be no math.
 
2009-12-30 10:43:27 AM  

DarthBrooks: Really.


I usually keep a few $2 bills with me for the cheap entertainment of spending them and watching the look of confusion on the cashier's face. My favorite was a few years ago when I took a friend's kids to Burger King. Bill came to $11 and change, so I paid with 6 twos. The kid looked at the bills, looked at me, and said, "But I can't count by twos."

So I told him to fold them over & count by ones.

But I love giving the cashier extra money to round out my change. Especially after they've rung in the original amount. They're utterly clueless on how much to give back. The befuddled expression is always accompanied by, "But I've already rung it up", as though that's all the answer I need.
 
2009-12-30 10:44:56 AM  

Talon: Want to correct the problem? Mandatory Home-Economics classes in high school that teach these things.


Home-Ec *is* mandatory in most high schools. Problem is, they don't teach economics at all! It's cooking & sewing. I've yet to encounter a Home-Ec class that teaches someone to balance a checkbook or make a budget for a home.
 
2009-12-30 10:45:14 AM  

The Icelander: Talon: Want to correct the problem? Mandatory Home-Economics classes in high school that teach these things.

Is that on the standardized test that determines how much money the school gets? If not don't expect the kids to know it.

\Just like art
\\And music
\\\And physical education


Sick sad world we live in...

And what's sad, is that private schools don't even fix this. I had music, art and phys ed... but even in private schools I didn't have home economics.

And if the parents were never taught it, or worse they're math illeterate/phobic themselves... who will teach the kids? Short of going all bootstrappy and learning these things for yourself, the problem won't stop - and while the personal responsibility crowd might be fine with this, in the end it will have a negative effect on all of us (such as the housing boom/bust and people getting into mortgages they didn't understand)... so it's in all of our better interests to do something about it.
 
2009-12-30 10:45:58 AM  

DarthBrooks: I bought donuts and stuff for the office at Dunkin a few weeks back. The bill came to $16.00 exactly, and I handed the girl a $20 bill.

Then I found another $1 bill in my wallet so I gave her that too. She pushed the dollar back at me. "That's too much money." she said.

"Well," I said, "I just want a $5 bill."

"I'm sorry," she said, "I'm not allowed to make change at this register."

Really.


A couple weeks ago, I needed to get some change so I went into my local gas station just after it opened and asked the guy if I could get 10 $1s and 2 $5s for a $20 bill. He acted all flustered and said, "I can't. I just opened my drawer." I wasn't going to fight it, so I threw a 35 cent pack of gum on the counter and paid with the $20 bill, figuring I'd at least get a $5 and some $1s back. He then proceeded to give me 3 $5s, 5 $1s, and 3 quarters.

So, basically, instead of just giving me change for a $20 like I asked, he gave me a pack of gum and $20.75...and f*cked up his drawer immediately upon opening for the rest of the day. He would've f*cked up his drawer even if he hadn't given me that extra dollar. I'd normally point something like this out to a cashier, but the guy is kind of a dick so f*ck him.

/True, cool story
 
2009-12-30 10:46:01 AM  
Financial education in this country consists of Capital One setting up a credit card application booth at the college Open House Weekend between the hemp stand and the Habitat for Humanity signup. And it's in nobody's financial interest to change that.
 
2009-12-30 10:46:38 AM  

brigid_fitch: The befuddled expression is always accompanied by, "But I've already rung it up", as though that's all the answer I need.


It's rare that I find a cashier that dumb with math. But when I do, it's a thing of utter beauty.
 
2009-12-30 10:53:56 AM  

Talon: Do you want to know when I learned about mutual funds, mortgage points, etc? Not in any academic institution.


I learned about it in my AP Macroeconomics class, which featured (among other impressive sections) a few weeks spent on the economics of home ownership and whatnot to help contextualize the rest of the course.
 
2009-12-30 10:54:50 AM  
I will say that math skills can deteriorate VERY easily over time.

I went all the way through multi-variable and diff eq for my first bachelor's, and I have to stop and think when it comes to basic algebra. Why? I rarely use it.

So, for someone working in food service where the machine does all the calculations, it's very easy to believe that their ability to do basic math declines over time.

Nothing really surprising here.
 
2009-12-30 10:57:13 AM  

brigid_fitch: I usually keep a few $2 bills with me for the cheap entertainment of spending them and watching the look of confusion on the cashier's face.


Let me guess. Taco Bell?
 
2009-12-30 10:57:17 AM  
I've done a lot of good and bad things in my life but getting a 35 on the math part of the ACT might have been the best.
 
2009-12-30 10:58:14 AM  

mattharvest: Talon: Do you want to know when I learned about mutual funds, mortgage points, etc? Not in any academic institution.

I learned about it in my AP Macroeconomics class, which featured (among other impressive sections) a few weeks spent on the economics of home ownership and whatnot to help contextualize the rest of the course.


Gz to you. I had AP calc, AP history, AP psychology... but economics was not offered at my school. I took econ 101 in college to get a general education credit out of the way but it was nothing but "what's the slope of this line" supply and demand BS.

Point still remains - the vast majority are not getting any sort of "practical math" education when in school. The fact you recieved such an education in an advanced placement class just further proves the point - why is this sort of math so exclusive that it is reserved for advanced placement students?
 
2009-12-30 10:58:32 AM  
SchlingFocker: I will say that math skills can deteriorate VERY easily over time.

This is why I do math exercises in my spare time. For example: I'm at the gym and want to figure out how much longer I need to be on the treadmill before I hit three miles.

Or I try to figure out the ratio of my engine's rotational speed to the rotational speed of my car's tires.

\It helps that I sometimes have to do algebra in my job.
 
2009-12-30 10:59:11 AM  
Talon: why is this sort of math so exclusive that it is reserved for advanced placement students?

Because if the stupids could do math smart people wouldn't earn as much.
 
2009-12-30 11:07:10 AM  

MaxxLarge: brigid_fitch: I usually keep a few $2 bills with me for the cheap entertainment of spending them and watching the look of confusion on the cashier's face.

Let me guess. Taco Bell?


And the sad thing is, I've been doing this long before that Taco Bell story started. Nobody's ever called the cops on me, but Costco did refuse to accept them once. And I once spent 20 minutes at a Wendy's drive-thru while the manager called the franchise owner to ask if they accepted them.

I'd say 10% of the time I get a real, honest-to-goodness hassle (like Costco & Wendy's). 40% of the time, the cashier starts gushing about how cool they are and that he's never seen one before, or tries to play it cool, thinking they're worth more than $2. The other 50% is usually just confusion as to where to put it in the drawer.

My godson gets all the good stories, though. For his HS graduation, I gave him an uncut sheet of 25 twos & a pair of scissors. Now when he pays for stuff, he unfurls it on the counter & starts cutting the bills out. He's had the cops called on him a couple of times.
 
2009-12-30 11:13:15 AM  

DarthBrooks: "I'm sorry," she said, "I'm not allowed to make change at this register."

Really.


I have this sort of problem all the time. Usually, I just tell them, "Trust me. Punch the amount in and the computer will know what to do."
 
2009-12-30 11:13:46 AM  

sigdiamond2000: A couple weeks ago, I needed to get some change so I went into my local gas station just after it opened and asked the guy if I could get 10 $1s and 2 $5s for a $20 bill. He acted all flustered and said, "I can't. I just opened my drawer." I wasn't going to fight it, so I threw a 35 cent pack of gum on the counter and paid with the $20 bill, figuring I'd at least get a $5 and some $1s back. He then proceeded to give me 3 $5s, 5 $1s, and 3 quarters.

So, basically, instead of just giving me change for a $20 like I asked, he gave me a pack of gum and $20.75...and f*cked up his drawer immediately upon opening for the rest of the day. He would've f*cked up his drawer even if he hadn't given me that extra dollar. I'd normally point something like this out to a cashier, but the guy is kind of a dick so f*ck him.

/True, cool story


Once at a gas station I brought a soda to the counter, the kid rung it up to $1.57 including tax, I handed him a twenty and said "Give me $18.43 on pump six." When he punched it into the register and saw that it came out to $20 even, he looked at me like I had just performed an amazing magic trick.
 
2009-12-30 11:14:07 AM  

brigid_fitch: My godson gets all the good stories, though. For his HS graduation, I gave him an uncut sheet of 25 twos & a pair of scissors. Now when he pays for stuff, he unfurls it on the counter & starts cutting the bills out. He's had the cops called on him a couple of times.


LOL.

Where do you even acquire an uncut sheet of bills?

/father is a coin collector
//has seen but rarely used the more obscure, circulating currencies.
 
2009-12-30 11:15:57 AM  

Talon:
Where do you even acquire an uncut sheet of bills?


I think you can buy them from the US mint. I got one when I was a kid.
 
2009-12-30 11:16:08 AM  

Talon: Where do you even acquire an uncut sheet of bills?


Google is your friend.
 
2009-12-30 11:17:08 AM  

Talon: Point still remains - the vast majority are not getting any sort of "practical math" education when in school. The fact you recieved such an education in an advanced placement class just further proves the point - why is this sort of math so exclusive that it is reserved for advanced placement students?


Oh, to be clear, I wasn't trying to fully contradict you, just to suggest that the material is available at least in some schools. The problem is connected to the inability of many schools to offer those materials because of a lack of money, interest or staff ability.
 
2009-12-30 11:17:18 AM  

brigid_fitch: And the sad thing is, I've been doing this long before that Taco Bell story started.


Back when I was in my obligatory "work in fast-food" phase of life, I had to stop a manager from calling the cops to report a counterfeit bill. Yes, he thought there were no $2 bills. I just gave him two ones out of my pocket in exchange for it and he was happy.
 
2009-12-30 11:26:02 AM  

Talon: Not quite subby Talon.

FTFA:


"Just as there is a hidden epidemic of people who are functionally illiterate in our country, there is big problem (bigger, by my reckoning) with people who can't do basic math. There's no way to function in our society without understanding money, percentages, interest calculation and so on. Yet in a recent government study, less than one in seven American adults ranked "proficient" at math."
 
2009-12-30 11:39:22 AM  

Anaxphone: brigid_fitch: And the sad thing is, I've been doing this long before that Taco Bell story started.

Back when I was in my obligatory "work in fast-food" phase of life, I had to stop a manager from calling the cops to report a counterfeit bill. Yes, he thought there were no $2 bills. I just gave him two ones out of my pocket in exchange for it and he was happy.


Sometime around Thanksgiving I bought some milk at WaWa and tried to pay with $2 bills. The girl at the counter had a VERY thick Eastern European accent and didn't bat an eye when she rang it up. The 20-yo manager came rushing over asking what she was doing. She was puzzled and said she was ringing up my purchase. The manager sighed and said that the bills were counterfeit because the US doesn't make $2 bills.

The girl started laughing at him and said, "I am from Russia and even *I* know you have $2 bills!"
 
2009-12-30 11:44:31 AM  

brigid_fitch: Talon: Want to correct the problem? Mandatory Home-Economics classes in high school that teach these things.

Home-Ec *is* mandatory in most high schools. Problem is, they don't teach economics at all! It's cooking & sewing. I've yet to encounter a Home-Ec class that teaches someone to balance a checkbook or make a budget for a home.


We made pie and there were lots of girls--one of the classes I never skipped.
 
2009-12-30 11:59:55 AM  
FTFA*Study after study shows U.S. achievement falls off the cliff during middle school, when subjects like fractions and percentages are introduced -- exactly the skills you need as a consumer or, for that matter, to move on to algebra, calculus and advanced sciences.

My son is seven and he's in second grade. He's already working on fractions and percentages in school.

/Just sayin'
 
2009-12-30 12:06:27 PM  

pgh9fan: My son is seven and he's in second grade. He's already working on fractions and percentages in school.

/Just sayin'


I moved from Nebraska to Texas as a kid, between 6th and 7th grade. My middle school in Texas wouldn't let me take advanced math courses because Nebraska had me already a head of the kids in Texas. Nope, the middle school decided to put me in 2 math classes that I had already taken in Nebraska. Needless to say, I slacked off in those classes, I was so damn bored.
 
2009-12-30 12:10:29 PM  

SchlingFocker: I will say that math skills can deteriorate VERY easily over time.

I went all the way through multi-variable and diff eq for my first bachelor's, and I have to stop and think when it comes to basic algebra. Why? I rarely use it.

So, for someone working in food service where the machine does all the calculations, it's very easy to believe that their ability to do basic math declines over time.

Nothing really surprising here.


I agree. As I worked on my engineering bachelor's over time and at different locations in the Air Force, I had to restart the calculus series to recall all the math needed for the other courses.

Use it or lose it.

/Same goes for physical fitness too.
 
2009-12-30 12:38:42 PM  
andrew131: I moved from Nebraska to Texas as a kid, between 6th and 7th grade. My middle school in Texas wouldn't let me take advanced math courses because Nebraska had me already a head of the kids in Texas. Nope, the middle school decided to put me in 2 math classes that I had already taken in Nebraska. Needless to say, I slacked off in those classes, I was so damn bored.

I swear I repeated 6th grade in Tennessee from 5th grade in Ohio.
 
2009-12-30 01:07:31 PM  
I was hoping this was a crazy Dennis Hopper story with the "pop quiz" reference and the "mother farker" bit made me hope that Bruce Willis was somehow involved as well.
 
2009-12-30 01:07:32 PM  
Shoot the hostage.
 
2009-12-30 01:07:57 PM  

The Icelander: SchlingFocker: I will say that math skills can deteriorate VERY easily over time.

This is why I do math exercises in my spare time. For example: I'm at the gym and want to figure out how much longer I need to be on the treadmill before I hit three miles.

Or I try to figure out the ratio of my engine's rotational speed to the rotational speed of my car's tires.

\It helps that I sometimes have to do algebra in my job.


Dude, 26min duh.
 
2009-12-30 01:08:35 PM  
"The U.S. ranks 25th among 30 industrialized nations in math scores..."

So we're square in the middle; that's not so bad.
 
2009-12-30 01:09:13 PM  

The Icelander: SchlingFocker: I will say that math skills can deteriorate VERY easily over time.

This is why I do math exercises in my spare time. For example: I'm at the gym and want to figure out how much longer I need to be on the treadmill before I hit three miles.

Or I try to figure out the ratio of my engine's rotational speed to the rotational speed of my car's tires.

\It helps that I sometimes have to do algebra in my job.


26 MINUTES!

JC
 
2009-12-30 01:09:22 PM  
if you don't know how to do that math on your own you don't need any money whatsoever
 
2009-12-30 01:10:52 PM  
$.03
 
MIU
2009-12-30 01:11:00 PM  

Talon: Do you want to know when I learned Algebra 1? Geometry? Calculus? Linear Algebra? Differential Equations? I can tell you the year, what institution I was in, and probably the teacher.

Do you want to know when I learned about mutual funds, mortgage points, etc? Not in any academic institution.


Heh we did all that stuff in grade 10. (In French, no less.) Boring but useful.
 
2009-12-30 01:11:00 PM  
Yeah yeah, there's an app for that.
 
2009-12-30 01:11:39 PM  
39 cents....
 
2009-12-30 01:11:46 PM  
brigid_fitch: multiple stories

keep 'em coming! I'm loling like crazy.
 
2009-12-30 01:12:18 PM  

vernonFL: I was told there would be no math.


just think how much math it takes to describe your freeway driving.
 
2009-12-30 01:12:25 PM  

DarthBrooks: I bought donuts and stuff for the office at Dunkin a few weeks back. The bill came to $16.00 exactly, and I handed the girl a $20 bill.

Then I found another $1 bill in my wallet so I gave her that too.


I farking LOVE doing that.

bill comes to $23.47
could just give $25 but
give them $28.47
watch them stare...

 
2009-12-30 01:12:30 PM  
Just yesterday my bill at WaWa came to $10.51 so I handed to girl a $20 and a penny. The look of confusion was astounding. "What's the penny for?". "So I can get $9 and two quarters instead of $9 one quarter, 2 dimes and 4 pennies." "Oh". Jesus Christ.
 
2009-12-30 01:13:31 PM  

GAT_00: andrew131: I moved from Nebraska to Texas as a kid, between 6th and 7th grade. My middle school in Texas wouldn't let me take advanced math courses because Nebraska had me already a head of the kids in Texas. Nope, the middle school decided to put me in 2 math classes that I had already taken in Nebraska. Needless to say, I slacked off in those classes, I was so damn bored.

I swear I repeated 6th grade in Tennessee from 5th grade in Ohio.


That's because it isn't common practice to go past 6th grade in Tennessee. They wanted to make sure you didn't leave school too young to get hired on at the local coal mine/factory/rendering plant/what have you.

Tennessee is a beautiful, beautiful state full of amazing vistas, majestic scenery, proud wildlife and strange, strange people.
 
2009-12-30 01:13:33 PM  
I suck at math. I have one of these. I use it too. Makes me sort of like a cyborg.

www.comparestoreprices.co.uk
 
2009-12-30 01:13:51 PM  

brightestfell: if you don't know how to do that math on your own you don't need any money whatsoever


And the beauty of a free market system is it will instantly deprive you of it if you meet that criteria.

When bad things happen to stupid people, it's a good thing kids...
 
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