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(Sify)   Realizing one can defer their student loans if they are still attending school, should you C.) Get 22 Masters Degree, 5 PhDs, and 3 Doctorate in Literature...and afterwards go back for the 23rd Masters degree at age 65   (sify.com ) divider line
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2009-12-29 09:24:40 AM  
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2009-12-29 09:34:10 AM  
One of my Teachers back at Purdue was doing something like this, he was working on his 5th PHD when I graduated.
 
2009-12-29 09:35:14 AM  

leboff: Some of the subjects in which Rai acquired MAs include ancient history, modern history, sociology, political science, economics, education, Hindi, Sanskrit, geography and psychology.

Sanskrit. You're majoring in a 5000 year-old dead language?


I came in for this, thank you.

/Can you blow me where the pampers is?
 
2009-12-29 09:40:38 AM  
Yes but can he mow a lawn and deal with ex wives with those 22 degrees? Then I will be impressed.
 
2009-12-29 09:50:39 AM  

ZoeNekros: OnmyojiOmn: Sry no.

Sry no.


Yes, arranged by purity of information and genitalia
 
2009-12-29 09:57:50 AM  

Relatively Obscure: I'd pretty much just stay home and masturbate if I were independently wealthy, but it'd be in a bigger house.


Nah, I'd travel the world and masturbate in every country!
 
2009-12-29 09:57:53 AM  

fanbladesaresharp: Yes but can he mow a lawn and deal with ex wives with those 22 degrees? Then I will be impressed.



I don't think that anything could prepare a person for a fate that cruel.
 
2009-12-29 10:00:21 AM  

Telos: Relatively Obscure: I'd pretty much just stay home and masturbate if I were independently wealthy, but it'd be in a bigger house.

Nah, I'd travel the world and masturbate in every country!


Well, it'd be frowned upon. Thanks a lot, Bin Laden!
 
2009-12-29 10:03:47 AM  

Telos: Relatively Obscure: I'd pretty much just stay home and masturbate if I were independently wealthy, but it'd be in a bigger house.

Nah, I'd travel the world and masturbate in every country!


Each day, a new country to poop on!

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2009-12-29 10:03:51 AM  

fanbladesaresharp: Yes but can he mow a lawn and deal with ex wives with those 22 degrees? Then I will be impressed.


I'm waiting for him to ask, "You want fries with that" in Prakrit. Or change the keys on the cash register to Sanskrit just to mess with his "colleagues."
 
2009-12-29 10:04:23 AM  
Good plan.
 
2009-12-29 10:05:01 AM  

amo: I would be a permanent student if I were independently wealthy.


I wouldn't. College students are jackasses.

/was a jackass in college
 
2009-12-29 10:07:10 AM  

Telos: Relatively Obscure: I'd pretty much just stay home and masturbate if I were independently wealthy, but it'd be in a bigger house.

Nah, I'd travel the world and masturbate in every country!


I have had 2 friends who were both ridiculously wealthy.

One stayed at home and got drunk and masturbated ALL THE TIME.

Another went to a really mediocre state university and got a frustrating, dead-end job.....but he still had a crap ton of money.

I'm actually glad that I am not wealthy, thinking about it.
 
2009-12-29 10:12:18 AM  
Yes, learning in a lifelong process, but eventually you have to just learn on your own because you don't need the accolades and degrees. This is a kind of attention whoring in my opinion.


/learning banjo
//learning german
 
2009-12-29 10:14:49 AM  

abb3w: Zelazny. Nothing is obscure on Fark.


I read that... but I don't know when. I thought of it when I read the headline (but was thinking it was a Fritz Leiber novel).

Honestly I didn't think I had read to many zelazny novels. But the window climbing and basket weaving courses mentioned in the summary are too damn specific. Oddly I remember nothing else of the story.
 
2009-12-29 10:15:13 AM  

ModernLuddite: Telos: Relatively Obscure: I'd pretty much just stay home and masturbate if I were independently wealthy, but it'd be in a bigger house.

Nah, I'd travel the world and masturbate in every country!

I have had 2 friends who were both ridiculously wealthy.

One stayed at home and got drunk and masturbated ALL THE TIME.

Another went to a really mediocre state university and got a frustrating, dead-end job.....but he still had a crap ton of money.

I'm actually glad that I am not wealthy, thinking about it.


latimesblogs.latimes.com
 
2009-12-29 10:24:02 AM  
BS and MSW and contemplating DPH. And yes, loan deferrment is a big factor in this plan.
 
2009-12-29 10:29:08 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Juniper Jupiter: And yet, I'll bet just like any other "college graduate", the person in the article works as a bartender, because they make more in tips than they would have if they had pursued their initial chosen career path.

/ducks and runs

FTA...Rai is a retired professor and resident of Uttar Pradesh's Ghazipur district, some 280 km from Lucknow.


Come on now, Bathia, darling! Surely you've heard of the "ducks and runs" joke by now!

Of course, I RTFA! Doesn't mean it's true, right?

/RIGHT!!? :P
 
2009-12-29 10:31:43 AM  

kerpal32: I haven't clicked the article yet..... rolls eyes and asks

Mark? is this about you? Or Will? oh never mind, they're only in their mid-40's. This guy's the all time zen master.

/Yes, I know a couple people like this guy. Both are over $100k in debt in student loans, in their mid-40's and working on their umpteenth masters here or abroad and doing research. But they're happy and see themselves on the winning end of the deal.


Because they've been told their whole lives that they are unique snowflakes. Let me guess - Macbooks, bad French, and they've set foot in a US embassy. Douchebags über alles!
 
2009-12-29 10:35:30 AM  
By Astrology, they mean Jyothish(pops)
 
2009-12-29 10:38:11 AM  
Yet more evidence that the entire higher-education market is a scam: the student is openly scamming the lender, and the university is an accomplice -- there's no way they are oblivious to what's going on.

I, too, would love to spend my entire life learning; I simply don't believe I could game the system for forty-plus years, nor do I think it's terribly honorable. Get a job and contribute to society, you farking leech.
 
2009-12-29 10:40:41 AM  
How much does he actually remember?
Is there anything worth remembering?
 
2009-12-29 10:42:35 AM  
Some of the subjects in which Rai acquired MAs include ancient history, modern history, sociology, political science, economics, education, Hindi, Sanskrit, geography and psychology.


So, Nothing useful then?
 
2009-12-29 10:45:17 AM  
After figuring out that I don't like working as a Student Affairs "Professional," I'm going back for degree #4 in Clinical Laboratory Chemistry/Medical Technology.

/getting a kick...
//...in the pants...
 
2009-12-29 10:52:21 AM  
Academia for the sake of academia is the biggest act of selfish mental masturbation possible.
 
2009-12-29 10:53:53 AM  
hmmm....i havn't borrowed any money since my BA. Schools keep giving me money to come to their institutions.
 
2009-12-29 10:56:24 AM  

wmoonfox: Yet more evidence that the entire higher-education market is a scam: the student is openly scamming the lender, and the university is an accomplice -- there's no way they are oblivious to what's going on.

I, too, would love to spend my entire life learning; I simply don't believe I could game the system for forty-plus years, nor do I think it's terribly honorable. Get a job and contribute to society, you farking leech.


How do you know that it operates the same way in India, where TFA takes place?
 
2009-12-29 11:08:28 AM  
THEY DON'T HAVE STUDENT LOANS IN INDIA, Just saying
 
2009-12-29 11:13:56 AM  
Or you can get my university job, which pays all my tuition, private luxury housing, meals, books, fees, and entertainment plus ~18 weeks of vacation a year.

I'm finishing my bachelor, starting an MBA in the fall and getting a doctorate after that. I'm going to be a student until I die.
 
2009-12-29 11:18:56 AM  

ciocia: How do you know that it operates the same way in India, where TFA takes place?


Because subby says so.
 
2009-12-29 11:20:11 AM  
and he gets a Masters for just being able to saying he attends Sampurnanand Sanskrit Vishwavidyalaya University (and a PhD if he can do it after the fifth round of COBRA BEER PONG.....)

www.mutineermagazine.com
 
2009-12-29 11:23:34 AM  

RemyDuron: As a physics grad
I can't stand old school math teaching.

"Definition, theorem, proof, definition, theorem, proof, definition, theorem, proof. Good luck on your homework and I hope you get to the library in time to get a textbook which will actually show you how this stuff can be used."


If that "old school" then what is the "new school" way to teach it? Give people formula sheets and do 40 examples on the board? Theorems/proofs are the only way for math students to learn mathematics at the level required of them. I've taught calculus/linear algebra/diffy q courses where the students don't care at ALL about why ANYTHING works and eventually they can do super basic computations straight from the book but nothing that isn't muscle memory. Regurgitation of information is only the first level of learning and unfortunately the only level required in some majors, physics obviously not being one of them.

Anyways I guess I'm just trying to say that proofs are sweet and deserve some respect.
 
2009-12-29 11:30:35 AM  

Sleeping Monkey: Student loans are a gift to banks from the government. If you can game the system and get away with it, do it.


I quit borrowing but I still take classes at a Junior College for different IT certifications like the Cisco Networking Academy and am putting off my student loans until I pass 10 years of state service, then they will pay it off.
 
2009-12-29 11:33:45 AM  

tudorgurl: Paula_Deens_Spatuler: How else can people finance their expensive hair weaves, Rolex's, saggy jeans and monthly payments on their BMW's? You gottsa bounce from one community college to another and accumulate the loans. Just show up for class the first two weeks and JACKPOT! You got yer refund. What are they gonna do, put them in jail for failure to pay student loans? Their credit is shiat to begin with. They've got nothing to lose.

Wow...way to be racist, asshat.


Hm. Where in that post did the author mention race?

Methinks I see who the 'racist' really is. Stereotype much?
 
2009-12-29 11:35:57 AM  

rrost123: rogue49: MemeSlave: Really this just proves that Indian universities give out degrees based on cereal box tops.

But that's ok, your HR department will lay you off and hire them anyway.

So true.

But that's because the pretty pieces of paper give those who don't know the warm & fuzzies.

Besides, mgmt uses it to market you and justify your salary.

But does it truly prove your knowledge and skill?
Not even.

/teaching another grad, cert holder how to patch an app...


Aint that the GDamned truth... I am teaching some indian nationals that are certified sybase DBA's how to trouble shoot tranlogs so they can lay me off.

/needs a new profession


You should look into teaching English as a Comprehendable Language.
 
2009-12-29 11:41:26 AM  

liverpoolumd: Some of the subjects in which Rai acquired MAs include ancient history, modern history, sociology, political science, economics, education, Hindi, Sanskrit, geography and psychology.

So, Nothing useful then?


Economics, sociology, and political science are useful. Especially economics, probably the most important and certainly the most relevant major at any given college or university.
 
2009-12-29 11:46:53 AM  
Why don't these piss-ass, small town 'news' websites identify themselves on every page - sorta like the network ID bug in the corner of a TV screen? What a bunch of farking amateurs. Isn't it bad journalistic form to write news copy that does NOT include some reference to time and place? Sry...would have looked harder if the apathy beast hadn't got to me.
 
2009-12-29 12:08:31 PM  

MemeSlave: Because they've been told their whole lives that they are unique snowflakes. Let me guess - Macbooks, bad French, and they've set foot in a US embassy. Douchebags über alles!


No, they weren't told that. They just preferred staying in academia for research and discovered early on so long as they were continually working toward degrees they never had to pay back their loans, BUT the could continue to borrow more -- lol. Their respective fields are Biology, Chemistry, Mathematics and Particle Physics.
 
2009-12-29 12:10:10 PM  

Nimnom: astr


Makes you wonder what all the other degrees are in. Cheerleading? Palmreading? Numerology?
 
2009-12-29 12:11:56 PM  
Actually, you can't always defer your loans even if you are enrolled in school. I'm having to pay one of my loans right now, even though I'm a full time grad student. I pleaded with the loan company, explaining how I'm a student and I can't afford to pay them right now and they told me that I used up my grace period between my BA and my MA so PAY UP.

/hates student loans
 
2009-12-29 12:16:41 PM  

stuhayes2010: Yes, learning in a lifelong process, but eventually you have to just learn on your own because you don't need the accolades and degrees. This is a kind of attention whoring in my opinion.


/learning banjo
//learning german


i45.tinypic.com

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2009-12-29 12:23:19 PM  
When I was in college I met a lot of people who were on their 10th or 12th year; they weren't really stupid, just lacking in ambition and able to coast along somehow on someone else's money.


College is a low-cost country club for many people: it has excellent pools, tennis courts, gyms, etc.; plenty of opportunity for self-improvement and loads of social and cultural events.

Beats hell out of sitting on a deck chair sucking overpriced cocktails. If you can afford it, why not?
 
2009-12-29 12:28:21 PM  

raerae1980: Actually, you can't always defer your loans even if you are enrolled in school. I'm having to pay one of my loans right now, even though I'm a full time grad student. I pleaded with the loan company, explaining how I'm a student and I can't afford to pay them right now and they told me that I used up my grace period between my BA and my MA so PAY UP.

/hates student loans


I'll point out ahead of time I'm not setting you up so I can make fun of your situation - how did you burn your grace period between degrees?
 
2009-12-29 12:50:06 PM  
When I went to college, back around the end of the ice age, I noticed some older 'students' who seemed to wander about campus, looking a little too contented. Kind of like they weren't all that worried if they failed a course.

These folks, I was soon informed, were 'professional students' meaning those who had the means just to take courses for their own personal knowledge.

Now, when I was going after my ADN, one year cost $600. Your average salary was around $6000 a year and the single bedroom efficiency apartment I rented cost $119 a month. (Get ready for this next one.) My power bill, squandering electricity on lights, a/c, TV and everything else, was a whopping $19.00 a month.

By around 1974-75, when I returned to college for psychology, the cost had gone up to $1200 a year.

What is it now? $30,000 a year for the same courses I took? I keep hearing about massive student loans, but when I went to college, folks could and usually did, save up and pay out of pocket. Actually, it wasn't until I went back the second time that I found out about student loans, since I needed one and the loan officer was kind of a grumpy guy.

A friend of mine obtained a grant for his ADN and did not have to pay it back so long as he worked in the local hospital for a year afterwards. Back then, you had to do a lot of research to find college grants and loans and there weren't that many of them. In many cases, you wrote to the Library of Congress for listings of loans.

Now, I cruse the Internet and find hundreds, broken down by race and finances.

Times have certainly changed. I find it disturbing to listen to folks talk about carrying something like $150,000 in college loans and then having to work hard for 5 or 10 years after getting their degree to pay them back.

I don't think we have too many 'professional students' anymore.
 
2009-12-29 01:23:56 PM  
BORROWING DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

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2009-12-29 01:39:36 PM  

bubbaprog: liverpoolumd: Some of the subjects in which Rai acquired MAs include ancient history, modern history, sociology, political science, economics, education, Hindi, Sanskrit, geography and psychology.

So, Nothing useful then?

Economics, sociology, and political science are useful. Especially economics, probably the most important and certainly the most relevant major at any given college or university.


hahahahah......


Its a joke major, even here at the University of Maryland... where we WON A NOBEL PRIZE.
 
2009-12-29 02:10:47 PM  
Something to be said for failing to ever learn to educate oneself.

And it's not a good thing that's said.

/money wasted
 
2009-12-29 02:27:23 PM  

liverpoolumd:
hahahahah......


Its a joke major, even here at the University of Maryland... where we WON A NOBEL PRIZE.


Nobels are a joke now that Obama got one just for existing.
 
2009-12-29 02:40:08 PM  

Random Unit 3775: liverpoolumd:
hahahahah......


Its a joke major, even here at the University of Maryland... where we WON A NOBEL PRIZE.

Nobels are a joke now that Obama got one just for existing.


I lol'd.
 
2009-12-29 02:46:11 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: raerae1980: Actually, you can't always defer your loans even if you are enrolled in school. I'm having to pay one of my loans right now, even though I'm a full time grad student. I pleaded with the loan company, explaining how I'm a student and I can't afford to pay them right now and they told me that I used up my grace period between my BA and my MA so PAY UP.

/hates student loans

I'll point out ahead of time I'm not setting you up so I can make fun of your situation - how did you burn your grace period between degrees?


I got married and moved across the country to begin my MA. Also, there was an error with my application that needed corrected before I could begin classes. This meant that I had to wait 9 mos (from the time I received my BA) instead of 6 to start. This was considered my grace period. Trust me, I argued left and right about this, especially since I was able to defer all my other student loans, but Great Lakes refused and now I have to pay every friggin month.
 
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