Sad part is that the mine will be hungry again about an hour from now.

/agrees

ArtosRC: Sad part is that the mine will be hungry again about an hour from now.

And you may close this thread immediately, Mod. We will have no stronger showing than this.

/Well farking done, ArtosRC, well done.

/hot

1lastcall: /Well farking done, ArtosRC, well done.



I suspect after the explosion - the ones trapped in, will be too

+1

Last month 108 miners were killed in a coal mine blast in northeast China. It was the country's deadliest mining accident in two years.

If a horrifying, internationally noteworthy-even-a-month-later industrial accident occurs, and it's been only two years from one even worse, there's something really wrong with that industry.

<b><a target="_blank" href="http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLink=4890724&IDComment=56954325#c569 54325">DantheApe</a>:</b> <i>/hot</i>

white PUk

but will the mine be forced to stay outside all night till it freezes to death?

Maybe they'll stay the fark away from my titanium veins now.

"Herro."

Got nothin'.

Is it just me or does anyone else find the media's fascination with trapped mine workers odd?

Chinese minors?

fap fap fap

ArtosRC: Sad part is that the mine will be hungry again about an hour from now.

ArtosRC: Sad part is that the mine will be hungry again about an hour from now.

That's worthy of a Total Fark sponsorship right there.

irgunner: Chinese minors?

fap fap fap

awesome

Approves

teknophile4385: Approves


That movie was so terrible. Not even "so terrible it's funny." Just terrible! (Which made me sad, because I like Bruce.

useless without picks.

Who needs workplace safety when you have a limitless supply of manpower?

Half the population eats mud soup and are peasant farmers. This place will be a shiathole for 200 more years. If you think differently you are a dumbfark.

1lastcall: ArtosRC: Sad part is that the mine will be hungry again about an hour from now.

And you may close this thread immediately, Mod. We will have no stronger showing than this.

/Well farking done, ArtosRC, well done.

yes, done in 1

How can this be? The PRC is supposed to be a Communist Worker's Paradise! You mean what my college professors told me was not true?

I feel so dirty like a miner for laughing.

They have more people under the age of 12 than the entire United States ... fark, it needs to be said again, we're all screwed ...

seadoo2006: They have more people under the age of 12 than the entire United States ... fark, it needs to be said again, we're all screwed ...

What does that have to do with ANYTHING?

jihahahad: useless without picks.

Second place.

bookman: How can this be? The PRC is supposed to be a Communist Worker's Paradise! You mean what my college professors told me was not true?

Yeah, that's right, we all believe for a nanosecond that you A) went to college, and B) Were actually told something in line with what conservatives think college is like.

Yep, we believe it.

/You're an idiot.

Tak ah lah!

fifthhorseman: Tak ah lah!

an wah

dobedobeDUE: Half the population eats mud soup and are peasant farmers. This place will be a shiathole for 200 more years. If you think differently you are a dumbfark.

Wow! You are horribly misinformed. In the last 20 years, China has basically erradicated hunger, they are self-sufficient food wise, and they have lifted over 600 million people out of poverty. 200 years? In 20 years, China will be the world's only superpower. Also, without China loaning the US tens of billions of dollars every month, the US economy would collapse.

Still, as for the original topic, China's coal industry has serious problems. The worst problem they have is a lack of oversight when it comes to regulations. Americans mindlessly think that China is an authoritarian government, but the truth is, mines in the US are much safer than mines in China because we have a much better regulatory environment. In China, mine owners often ignore regulations because they know that the government doesn't watch closely enough to catch them. There are also hundreds of illegal mining operations. There are regulations in China that require monitoring of air quality and the government imposes limits on the amount of coal a particular mine can produce. In almost every case of an explosion, the mine operators ignored the regulations and took out more coal that was allowed so they can sell it on the black market. Ultimately, mine explosions in China are a result of capitalist greed, and it is only strict regulations that prevent this from happening in the US.

It's ironic that many Americans think that the Chinese government controls everything with an iron fist, when the opposite is actually true. China actually needs more regulations and better enforcement.

jihahahad: useless without picks.

picks or gtfo?

kriegfusion: jihahahad: useless without picks.

picks or to gtfo?

ftfy

kriegfusion: jihahahad: useless without picks.

picks or gtfo?



What a Miner may look like.

/Like a pissed-off tranny, yeah
//Or like April Summers

LavenderWolf: bookman: How can this be? The PRC is supposed to be a Communist Worker's Paradise! You mean what my college professors told me was not true?

Yeah, that's right, we all believe for a nanosecond that you A) went to college, and B) Were actually told something in line with what conservatives think college is like.

Yep, we believe it.

/You're an idiot.

LOL! You can (and obviously will) believe anything you want. I'll stack my two degrees up against yours any time, Alice.

(Of course, mine were earned back in the 70s when they were still worth the paper they were printed on....)

ArtosRC: Sad part is that the mine will be hungry again about an hour from now.

Am I the only idiot in the thread who has no idea what this is a reference to? Could one of you guys in on the joke lend a hand?

i don't get it either stiletto

stiletto_the_wise: ArtosRC: Sad part is that the mine will be hungry again about an hour from now.

Am I the only idiot in the thread who has no idea what this is a reference to? Could one of you guys in on the joke lend a hand?

MSG in asian food is known to make you hungry soon after eating.

OnmyojiOmn: stiletto_the_wise: ArtosRC: Sad part is that the mine will be hungry again about an hour from now.

Am I the only idiot in the thread who has no idea what this is a reference to? Could one of you guys in on the joke lend a hand?

MSG in asian food is known to make you hungry soon after eating.

Well you and Fett56.

When in Rome....

OnmyojiOmn: stiletto_the_wise: ArtosRC: Sad part is that the mine will be hungry again about an hour from now.

Am I the only idiot in the thread who has no idea what this is a reference to? Could one of you guys in on the joke lend a hand?

MSG in asian food is known to make you hungry soon after eating.

Don't forget the movie Payback :p

Ozaru: dobedobeDUE: Half the population eats mud soup and are peasant farmers. This place will be a shiathole for 200 more years. If you think differently you are a dumbfark.

Wow! You are horribly misinformed. In the last 20 years, China has basically erradicated hunger, they are self-sufficient food wise, and they have lifted over 600 million people out of poverty. 200 years? In 20 years, China will be the world's only superpower. Also, without China loaning the US tens of billions of dollars every month, the US economy would collapse.

Still, as for the original topic, China's coal industry has serious problems. The worst problem they have is a lack of oversight when it comes to regulations. Americans mindlessly think that China is an authoritarian government, but the truth is, mines in the US are much safer than mines in China because we have a much better regulatory environment. In China, mine owners often ignore regulations because they know that the government doesn't watch closely enough to catch them. There are also hundreds of illegal mining operations. There are regulations in China that require monitoring of air quality and the government imposes limits on the amount of coal a particular mine can produce. In almost every case of an explosion, the mine operators ignored the regulations and took out more coal that was allowed so they can sell it on the black market. Ultimately, mine explosions in China are a result of capitalist greed, and it is only strict regulations that prevent this from happening in the US.

It's ironic that many Americans think that the Chinese government controls everything with an iron fist, when the opposite is actually true. China actually needs more regulations and better enforcement.

There's the lack of firm regulation, definitely. On top of that, though, safety is generally a low priority in China. For example, the BTCC fire. A $700 million building was severely damaged by an extravagant fireworks show before the building was even completed. Let's see... We've got a few million yuan we can spend either on fireproofing our new building or on fireworks for Chinese New Year.

Superficial spectacle invariably takes precedence over security and individual well-being, whether it's by the government or a corporation (or in this case, a government corporation). I don't know if it's a long-standing cultural tendency or just a flaw of the current incarnation of China, but it's an unfortunate area to be lagging in...

tommaso: Ozaru: dobedobeDUE: Half the population eats mud soup and are peasant farmers. This place will be a shiathole for 200 more years. If you think differently you are a dumbfark.

Wow! You are horribly misinformed. In the last 20 years, China has basically erradicated hunger, they are self-sufficient food wise, and they have lifted over 600 million people out of poverty. 200 years? In 20 years, China will be the world's only superpower. Also, without China loaning the US tens of billions of dollars every month, the US economy would collapse.

Still, as for the original topic, China's coal industry has serious problems. The worst problem they have is a lack of oversight when it comes to regulations. Americans mindlessly think that China is an authoritarian government, but the truth is, mines in the US are much safer than mines in China because we have a much better regulatory environment. In China, mine owners often ignore regulations because they know that the government doesn't watch closely enough to catch them. There are also hundreds of illegal mining operations. There are regulations in China that require monitoring of air quality and the government imposes limits on the amount of coal a particular mine can produce. In almost every case of an explosion, the mine operators ignored the regulations and took out more coal that was allowed so they can sell it on the black market. Ultimately, mine explosions in China are a result of capitalist greed, and it is only strict regulations that prevent this from happening in the US.

It's ironic that many Americans think that the Chinese government controls everything with an iron fist, when the opposite is actually true. China actually needs more regulations and better enforcement.

There's the lack of firm regulation, definitely. On top of that, though, safety is generally a low priority in China. For example, the BTCC fire. A $700 million building was severely damaged by an extravagant fireworks show before the building was even completed. Let's see... We've got a few million yuan we can spend either on fireproofing our new building or on fireworks for Chinese New Year.

Superficial spectacle invariably takes precedence over security and individual well-being, whether it's by the government or a corporation (or in this case, a government corporation). I don't know if it's a long-standing cultural tendency or just a flaw of the current incarnation of China, but it's an unfortunate area to be lagging in...

The fireworks show you mention was not an authorized show. China Central Television ignored police intervention 3 times and they were refused permits by the Beijing Municipal Government. Newly constructed buildings in China meet international standards for safety and are better than the most of the old buildings in the US. However, in this case, the building was still under construction and the fire suppression system wasn't functional. It could be argued that the fire suppression system should have been activated earlier during the construction, but since construction was supervised by a British company, they would have made that decision.

Your example actually helped prove my point. That fire, like most of the mining accidents in China, was a result of individuals ignoring regulations combined with a lack of enforcement. Perhaps China needs to become more authoritarian...like the US. Thankfully, unlike China who lags behind in terms of safety, the US never has firework accidents that result in fatalities.

Ozaru: tommaso: Ozaru: dobedobeDUE: Half the population eats mud soup and are peasant farmers. This place will be a shiathole for 200 more years. If you think differently you are a dumbfark.

Wow! You are horribly misinformed. In the last 20 years, China has basically erradicated hunger, they are self-sufficient food wise, and they have lifted over 600 million people out of poverty. 200 years? In 20 years, China will be the world's only superpower. Also, without China loaning the US tens of billions of dollars every month, the US economy would collapse.

Still, as for the original topic, China's coal industry has serious problems. The worst problem they have is a lack of oversight when it comes to regulations. Americans mindlessly think that China is an authoritarian government, but the truth is, mines in the US are much safer than mines in China because we have a much better regulatory environment. In China, mine owners often ignore regulations because they know that the government doesn't watch closely enough to catch them. There are also hundreds of illegal mining operations. There are regulations in China that require monitoring of air quality and the government imposes limits on the amount of coal a particular mine can produce. In almost every case of an explosion, the mine operators ignored the regulations and took out more coal that was allowed so they can sell it on the black market. Ultimately, mine explosions in China are a result of capitalist greed, and it is only strict regulations that prevent this from happening in the US.

It's ironic that many Americans think that the Chinese government controls everything with an iron fist, when the opposite is actually true. China actually needs more regulations and better enforcement.

There's the lack of firm regulation, definitely. On top of that, though, safety is generally a low priority in China. For example, the BTCC fire. A $700 million building was severely damaged by an extravagant fireworks show before the building was even completed. Let's see... We've got a few million yuan we can spend either on fireproofing our new building or on fireworks for Chinese New Year.

Superficial spectacle invariably takes precedence over security and individual well-being, whether it's by the government or a corporation (or in this case, a government corporation). I don't know if it's a long-standing cultural tendency or just a flaw of the current incarnation of China, but it's an unfortunate area to be lagging in...

The fireworks show you mention was not an authorized show. China Central Television ignored police intervention 3 times and they were refused permits by the Beijing Municipal Government. Newly constructed buildings in China meet international standards for safety and are better than the most of the old buildings in the US. However, in this case, the building was still under construction and the fire suppression system wasn't functional. It could be argued that the fire suppression system should have been activated earlier during the construction, but since construction was supervised by a British company, they would have made that decision.

Your example actually helped prove my point. That fire, like most of the mining accidents in China, was a result of individuals ignoring regulations combined with a lack of enforcement. Perhaps China needs to become more authoritarian...like the US. Thankfully, unlike China who lags behind in terms of safety, the US never has firework accidents that result in fatalities.

So the only factor that causes safety measures to be taken is government regulation? Why are there cars with optional ABS or side curtain airbags? Obviously, some people think it's worthwhile to take such non-government-mandated steps to improve their own safety. If people are concerned about their safety (or that of their $700mil investment) they'll do something about it, regardless of what standards their benevolent overlords enforce.

The Chinese government does regulate some things tightly, but like I said, their priorities are different.