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(The New York Times) Interesting Czechs Hungary to Pole the Communist Party out of elections, which they claim is abSerb and could Croat a bad precedent   (nytimes.com) divider line 117
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2009-12-27 07:01:45 PM
I've lived in Eastern Europe, so I'm really getting a kick out of these responses.

/+1 for Subby.
 
2009-12-27 07:19:49 PM
A related article about David Cerny, the artist interviewed for the article:

Now Free, Some Czechs Fear Complacency (new window)

"We were stupid, but we thought the remains of communism would be gone in 10 years, but 10 years later we still had communists in government," he says. "In parliament, there is one guy who was in prison where he tortured dissidents and he sits in parliament. How the hell is this possible?" Cerny asks.

I agree with the article, I think it's the old pensioners, but I always wonder how they are able to pull in 12-15% for KSČM (CZ Communist Party). But it doesn't matter what name you put on it, both sides are full of ex-communists.

You want to see corruption in politics, move here.
 
2009-12-27 07:44:40 PM
Well, isn't that just a handful of Macedonia nuts. :-/
 
2009-12-27 07:49:50 PM
Now, you don't want to Russian and make hasty decisions...
 
2009-12-28 12:56:48 AM
I'm Slovene this headline. Most of these punny ones Magyar eyes roll, but this one doesn't Minsk words.

/if only I didn't force myself to capitalize geographic or cultural proper nouns when I'm making puns...
 
2009-12-28 01:32:14 AM
Cajnik: A related article about David Cerny, the artist interviewed for the article:

nice article, and I saw your profile, where in Bohemia are you?

/Czech born myself
 
2009-12-28 03:12:53 AM
Who's the filthy bed-wetting communist who keeps submitting these damned NYT restricted articles?
 
2009-12-28 03:22:22 AM
soundguy: Who's the filthy bed-wetting communist who keeps submitting these damned NYT restricted articles?

shows up just fine for me
 
2009-12-28 03:25:13 AM
Yugo Subby!
 
2009-12-28 03:26:50 AM
Gato Negro: FTFA: "The Communists ruined this country and oppressed freedom and yet here they are 20 years later in our Parliament," said David Cerny, the iconoclastic Czech artist, who in 1991 painted a Soviet tank pink, transforming a memorial to the liberation of Czechoslovakia by the Red Army in 1945 into the equivalent of a large toy. "It is a national disgrace. The Communists are endangering the country. The Czechs need to wake up."

Clearly, what these people need are some smug, sneering, Internet liberals to explain the joys of communism to them.


Wait, I thought the liberals were socialists?

Is there a calendar I can get so I know which term we're catapulting to near meaninglessness today?
 
2009-12-28 03:27:55 AM
Wallachia, or second post. Whichever your prefer.
 
2009-12-28 03:28:50 AM
Rohasman: Wallachia, or second post. Whichever your prefer.

Wow... I thought that "second post" would get filter-pwned. Replace that with a "wieners" or "penis" as you prefer.
 
2009-12-28 03:31:26 AM
I'm Balkan at the creativity of this one, but only because I didn't come up with the headline first.
 
2009-12-28 03:32:23 AM
Love the headline. Hate Communism. Czech girls are hot. Yay.
 
2009-12-28 03:39:52 AM
snugglyhugs: The Communists ruined this country and oppressed freedom

So we will show them what democracy and liberty is all about by passing a law banning their point of view, no matter how many votes they receive!


Amazing at how often that seems to be the case.
 
2009-12-28 03:40:13 AM
Bastiat's Last Disciple: Czech girls are hot.

Is Sudaten you?
 
2009-12-28 03:47:34 AM
The_Sponge: I've lived in Eastern Europe, so I'm really getting a kick out of these responses.

/+1 for Subby.


Don't tell the Czechs they live in Eastern Europe, they get pissy and insist they live in Central Europe.
 
2009-12-28 03:50:26 AM
Yeah, well, the truth Herzegovina.
 
2009-12-28 03:57:43 AM
Subby totally missed out on a chance to put a pun in the headline by spelling "precedent" as "President". Cause of the election thing.
 
2009-12-28 03:59:06 AM
NYT restrictiod news content sucks.
 
2009-12-28 03:59:14 AM
As long as they keep that free internet porn coming... Czech women have taken HOT to a whole new level.
 
2009-12-28 03:59:43 AM
A Prague on your house SUBBY
 
2009-12-28 04:00:00 AM
restricted even
 
2009-12-28 04:05:23 AM
Moray: As long as they keep that free internet porn coming... Czech women have taken HOT to a whole new level.

They're kinda provincial though, harder to nail as a foreigner than other European skanks.
 
2009-12-28 04:27:57 AM
Restricted, where?

Shows up just fine here comrade.
 
2009-12-28 04:29:11 AM
lilplatinum: Don't tell the Czechs they live in Eastern Europe, they get pissy and insist they live in Central Europe.

While Czech is a Slavic language, the history of Czechs fits in with central and western Europe not Eastern. Prague was the first capital of the Austrian Empire.
 
2009-12-28 04:40:39 AM
I am all for political freedom, but I agree with banning communist parties.

When communists get into power, bad things tend to happen. Like gulags, forced land distribution, millions dying.......
 
2009-12-28 04:46:23 AM
Swampthing in Korea: I am all for political freedom, but I agree with banning communist parties.

You've managed to contradict yourself within a single sentence.

Good job.
 
2009-12-28 04:52:09 AM
Murkanen: Swampthing in Korea: I am all for political freedom, but I agree with banning communist parties.

You've managed to contradict yourself within a single sentence.

Good job.


Political freedom ends when a particular group is in favor of things like overthrowing an entire economic and social system, stealing assets because the owners are "rich" and engaging in similar authoritarian behavior.

Fire, crowded theatre. That kinda stuff.
 
2009-12-28 04:57:20 AM
WhyteRaven74: While Czech is a Slavic language, the history of Czechs fits in with central and western Europe not Eastern. Prague was the first capital of the Austrian Empire.

I'm inclined to agree, but in many 'official' statistical definitions its still considered eastern europe. The UN does, at least. The modern conception is all based on cold war demarcation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Europe_subregion_map_UN_geoschme.svg

Anyways, was just pointing out the Czechs get touchy about it, much like South Americans refer to themselves as Americans and get pissy when people from the USA say that it is not the proper demonym.
 
2009-12-28 05:02:00 AM
In capitalism you are farked by The Man.
In communism you are farked by The Men.

Same shiat, different wrapping...
 
2009-12-28 05:03:55 AM
Swampthing in Korea: Political freedom ends when a particular group is in favor of things like overthrowing an entire economic and social system, stealing assets because the owners are "rich" and engaging in similar authoritarian behavior.

No, actually, political freedom does not end just because you disagree with their platform. There are far more dangerous political groups within the US than the one being attacked in the article and it would be a cold day in hell before I supported banning them from running their candidates.
 
2009-12-28 05:08:06 AM
goddamn Czech women. bloody breathtaking, some of them
 
2009-12-28 05:15:11 AM
Thread is useless - USELESS - w/out Denise Milani.
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She can "seize my assets and engage in similar authoritarian behaviour" all the wants.
 
2009-12-28 05:23:19 AM
Murkanen: Swampthing in Korea: Political freedom ends when a particular group is in favor of things like overthrowing an entire economic and social system, stealing assets because the owners are "rich" and engaging in similar authoritarian behavior.

No, actually, political freedom does not end just because you disagree with their platform. There are far more dangerous political groups within the US than the one being attacked in the article and it would be a cold day in hell before I supported banning them from running their candidates.


Communists do not follow the law. They believe that the law is nothing more than a tool used by the rich overlords to cement their power.

Thus the law, police, government. Everything must be overthrown so that a true socialist society can be created as a prelude to utopia.

This a group you want to engage in politics? Really?

The distinction here is words vs actions. Communists have shown they will make their belief policy, to the detriment of millions.
 
2009-12-28 05:34:46 AM
Swampthing in Korea: Communists do not follow the law.

Then throw them in jail if they break a legitimate law*.

*: Banning communists would not be a legitimate law anymore than banning Republicans would be considered a legitimate law

This a group you want to engage in politics?

Every group deserves the right to engage in politics.

Communists have shown they will make their belief policy, to the detriment of millions.

So have conservatives, but I don't see you saying that they should be banned from engaging in politics.
 
2009-12-28 05:40:05 AM
Murkanen: Swampthing in Korea: Communists do not follow the law.

Then throw them in jail if they break a legitimate law.


That would be hard when they have appointed new judges, have their secret police roaming the streets and all dissenters are in work camps.
 
2009-12-28 05:43:57 AM
Swampthing in Korea: Murkanen: Swampthing in Korea: Communists do not follow the law.

Then throw them in jail if they break a legitimate law.

That would be hard when they have appointed new judges, have their secret police roaming the streets and all dissenters are in work camps.


OMG! When did that happen?! What about Havel? Is he still alive
 
2009-12-28 05:48:32 AM
Swampthing in Korea: That would be hard when they have appointed new judges, have their secret police roaming the streets and all dissenters are in work camps.

Are you posting from an episode of Sliders or something?
 
2009-12-28 05:54:02 AM
Murkanen: Swampthing in Korea: That would be hard when they have appointed new judges, have their secret police roaming the streets and all dissenters are in work camps.

Are you posting from an episode of Sliders or something?


Me? I am posting from the Lao People's Democratic Republic. I am working in a, uh, voluntary agricultural adjustment centre just outside of..............

*gunshot*
 
2009-12-28 06:07:38 AM
lilplatinum, kinda provincial? You just need more Booze!
 
2009-12-28 06:10:13 AM
Moray: lilplatinum, kinda provincial? You just need more Booze!

I don't think it is possible to drink more Booze than I had during my 2 weeks in prague... Which I admit could have inhibited my abilities to sample the local talent. But my best friend and several others who taught English in both Prague and other places stated something similar as well.
 
2009-12-28 06:20:39 AM
Cajnik: A related article about David Cerny, the artist interviewed for the article:

Now Free, Some Czechs Fear Complacency (new window)

"We were stupid, but we thought the remains of communism would be gone in 10 years, but 10 years later we still had communists in government," he says. "In parliament, there is one guy who was in prison where he tortured dissidents and he sits in parliament. How the hell is this possible?" Cerny asks.

I agree with the article, I think it's the old pensioners, but I always wonder how they are able to pull in 12-15% for KSČM (CZ Communist Party). But it doesn't matter what name you put on it, both sides are full of ex-communists.

You want to see corruption in politics, move here.


Thats the problem when people start Czeching their past. They think it's all Finn and Gambians. Soon England you find someone on the way to Gulags.
 
2009-12-28 06:44:38 AM
lilplatinum: Moray: lilplatinum, kinda provincial? You just need more Booze!

I don't think it is possible to drink more Booze than I had during my 2 weeks in prague... Which I admit could have inhibited my abilities to sample the local talent. But my best friend and several others who taught English in both Prague and other places stated something similar as well.


Cool story Brno
 
2009-12-28 07:00:01 AM
Sorry , I should of said the girls need more booze : ) you don't want to drink your little man under the table.
 
2009-12-28 07:53:27 AM
lilplatinum: The_Sponge: I've lived in Eastern Europe, so I'm really getting a kick out of these responses.

/+1 for Subby.

Don't tell the Czechs they live in Eastern Europe, they get pissy and insist they live in Central Europe.


So do Hungarians....
 
2009-12-28 07:55:10 AM
mamoru: Well, isn't that just a handful of Macedonia nuts. :-/

Ukraine, Warsaw, you conquered.

Here:

photos.imageevent.com

Albania my bunk.

/puns hurt
 
2009-12-28 07:57:57 AM
Horrendous Space Kablooie: So do Hungarians....

Those Pests.
 
2009-12-28 08:05:29 AM
LewDux: Cool story Brno

I hate that meme, but you got me to lol

WhyteRaven74, I'm in Prague. Ahoj
 
2009-12-28 08:22:03 AM
dasqoot: Thread is useless - USELESS - w/out Denise Milani.


She can "seize my assets and engage in similar authoritarian behaviour" all the wants.


Amen, I say unto you...Damn...
 
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