Muahaha, I flash airplanes with infrared lasers all the time, and they never catch me!

/Or I would, if I had an infrared laser.
_{//And wasn't lazy.}

Hiro Nakamura: The "us" referred to my unit. Whoops.

I'm also going to start referring to myself as "us" to include my unit.

hazeleyedwolff: Hiro Nakamura: The "us" referred to my unit. Whoops.

I'm also going to start referring to myself as "us" to include my unit.

We wholeheartedly agree.

adding that it was a miracle that no accidents had occurred in either case

Whoever wrote this is not very good at math.

Unless you have the control system to hold the laser onto the pilot's eyeballs for more than a microsecond, it's not going to do squat.

A Jaffa youth? Somebody call SG-1.

Paul Atreides is not amused.

bmihura: adding that it was a miracle that no accidents had occurred in either case

Whoever wrote this is not very good at math.

Unless you have the control system to hold the laser onto the pilot's eyeballs for more than a microsecond, it's not going to do squat.

ZM-87 I don't think this needs more than the blink of an eye to permanently blind a man over a mile away.

JAFFA KREE!

Build your own lasers (new window)

Had a friend in one of my classes that was big into this stuff. Had a few red ones that would burn black things but not your skin. Really neat info there.

Molavian: JAFFA KREE!

Came through my gate for that, going home now.

Link (new window)


oldy but goody

Molavian: JAFFA JAFO KREE!
FTFY

I'm waiting for the day someone REALLY blinds a pilot, the plane crashes in a horrific tangle of bodies and molten metal and burning jet fuel, cars piling up on the interstate, office buildings collapsing...

Wait, I forgot where I was going with this.

I think the real entertainment value of this article is the link to "Jews Offering New Alternatives to Homosexuality" off to the right. That's just... beautiful.

At 2,000 ft, the arc of an human eye is less than a 10^-3 degrees. Put that in perspective, at a range of 1 foot being able to hit an area slightly less than a size of the head of a really sharp needle (~0.0002ft) and holding it without shaking.

You MIGHT be able to hit a human eye at that range, I guess, but for all practical purposes that's not going to happen.

gorgor: Hiro Nakamura: I can't tell if people don't realize or don't care how dangerous it is to flash an aircraft.

whut?
http://tinyurl.com/yeqpseu
(copy and paste, NSFW)

First thing I thought of. Well, not the exact picture, the scenario.

Jakevol2: Gyrfalcon: I'm waiting for the day someone REALLY blinds a pilot, the plane crashes in a horrific tangle of bodies and molten metal and burning jet fuel, cars piling up on the interstate, office buildings collapsing...

Wait, I forgot where I was going with this.

Roland Emmerich's next great epic disaster film.

"2013: Getting Everything We Missed Last Year"?

gorgor: Airfoilsguy: Somehow I just knew you weren't going to leave that post alone.

Mistakes were made? :)

yup. She's wearing stuff.

Failing_Junk [TotalFark] 2009-12-27 10:45:23 PM
What getting caught lasing an aircraft might look like.

This!!!!

Hurt the MF, hurt them bad!!!

The damage potential is so great, we have been so luckey so far.

Renowned transvestite sexologist:
You MIGHT be able to hit a human eye at that range, I guess, but for all practical purposes that's not going to happen.

That makes sense and all but if it really is impossible why would they bother making a big deal about it? If you can't hit anyone in the eye they would not even know to look out for it.

Renowned transvestite sexologist Quote 2009-12-27 11:30:23 PM
At 2,000 ft, the arc of an human eye is less than a 10^-3 degrees. Put that in perspective, at a range of 1 foot being able to hit an area slightly less than a size of the head of a really sharp needle (~0.0002ft) and holding it without shaking.

You MIGHT be able to hit a human eye at that range, I guess, but for all practical purposes that's not going to happen.

you are a farking idiot . . . . . . . . . . . don't do it!!!!!!

bullshiat. we've had cheap laser pointers that can blind pilots for years, and they still haven't figured out how to avoid it? also, every time my asshole friends tried to flash a laser on my eyes I was able to avoid it by moving my head a little bit, how can a pilot not do the same, especially if he's like 10km away from the guy pointing the laser?

for good or for awesome: That makes sense and all but if it really is impossible why would they bother making a big deal about it? If you can't hit anyone in the eye they would not even know to look out for it.

You gotta remember when this started becoming a big deal, post 9/11. The turrists are gonna laser our planes into the ground, gotta stop them turrists, or they gonna get you.

Illusion of safety is more important to making people happy than actually doing things (which they won't understand) that will make them safe.

Skail: hazeleyedwolff: Hiro Nakamura: The "us" referred to my unit. Whoops.

I'm also going to start referring to myself as "us" to include my unit.

We wholeheartedly agree.

We lol'd.

gorgor: uncletogie: gorgor: Airfoilsguy: Somehow I just knew you weren't going to leave that post alone.

Mistakes were made? :)

yup. She's wearing stuff.

Stupid stuff.
And things.

You forgot the doohickeys...

Gargoyle

I don't think this needs more than the blink of an eye to permanently blind a man over a mile away.

You're not very good at math.

In this thread, people fail at physics.

punto Quote 2009-12-27 11:46:58 PM
bullshiat. we've had cheap laser pointers that can blind pilots for years, and they still haven't figured out how to avoid it? also, every time my asshole friends tried to flash a laser on my eyes I was able to avoid it by moving my head a little bit, how can a pilot not do the same, especially if he's like 10km away from the guy pointing the laser?

Not bullshait . . . the pilot is actually trying to do something, like landing a farking airplane . . . even if they are not "blinded", they might be distracted and getting it a little wrong just might be a lot wrong . . . some of you farkers are so unbelievebaly ignorant, it is amusing.

Hiro Nakamura: This happened to us a friend of mine a few months ago. I can't tell if people don't realize or don't care how dangerous it is to flash an aircraft.

They understand exactly what can happen. They're hoping it'll blind somebody and cause a crash, otherwise why would they do it? These green lasers aren't something you pick up at Staples.

PSA tag in custody?

gorgor: uncletogie: gorgor: uncletogie: gorgor: Airfoilsguy: Somehow I just knew you weren't going to leave that post alone.

Mistakes were made? :)

yup. She's wearing stuff.

Stupid stuff.
And things.

You forgot the doohickeys...

Doohickey's are made from sucking on poop.

Well, that'll cure me of ever wanting to wear a cummerbund again.

bmihura: Gargoyle

I don't think this needs more than the blink of an eye to permanently blind a man over a mile away.

You're not very good at math.

Perhaps not.

But these guys seemed to think that it was a serious enough problem that they drafted the Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons (Protocol IV to the 1980 Convention), 13 October 1995.

And two helecopter pilots suffered permanent partial blindness after what they and others have concluded was a laser attack, fired at their helicopter.

worthlessjuan: Not bullshait . . . the pilot is actually trying to do something, like landing a farking airplane . . . even if they are not "blinded", they might be distracted and getting it a little wrong just might be a lot wrong . . . some of you farkers are so unbelievebaly ignorant, it is amusing.


Might, might, might.

It's wholly unrealistic that's going to happen, even if you set out as your sole purpose of blinding pilots with a laser pointer at O Hare and no one stopped it. Unless you have computer assisted aim and tracking for the laser pointer, you aren't going to realistically hit the human eye. You just aren't.

Does it mean it should be legal to shine laser pointers at plane? No. Is it noteworthy someone did it? Not at all.

One of the things people who get worked up over things like this fail to realize is that life is not safe and it's never going to be safe. On the list of unsafe things likely to kill you, a guy attempting to shine a laser at a plane your are currently riding in is VERY low on that last. The drive to the airport is likely to be more dangerous.

Busting people for doing things like this amounts to feel good politics.

Gargoyle: And two helecopter pilots suffered permanent partial blindness after what they and others have concluded was a laser attack, fired at their helicopter.

Your point may or may not be valid, but WingNut Daily is about as valid of a source of news as the homeless guy at the local cafe. I suggest you use verifiable sources in the future if you want to be taken seriously

Gargoyle:

I doubt your source on the helicopter pilots.

With a strong enough laser, and a stable enough high tech tracking device, it would indeed be possible to blind a pilot. But anybody with a hand held laser is not going to make it happen.

gorgor: uncletogie: gorgor: uncletogie: gorgor: uncletogie: gorgor: Airfoilsguy: Somehow I just knew you weren't going to leave that post alone.

Mistakes were made? :)

yup. She's wearing stuff.

Stupid stuff.
And things.

You forgot the doohickeys...

Doohickey's are made from sucking on poop.

Well, that'll cure me of ever wanting to wear a cummerbund again.

BUTTSECKS = cumbuns

...and SECHSBUTT == 1.5 these , German version. (new window)

Renowned transvestite sexologist: Unless you have computer assisted aim and tracking for the laser pointer, you aren't going to realistically hit the human eye. You just aren't.

you realize the beam spreads as distance increases right? physics man, physics. what starts out as a 1/4 inch dot 6 feet away, ends up as a circle 4ft in diameter at one mile, and is still dangerous to eyes, especially if you're playing with something above 5mw. plus, it doesn't take multi-second exposure, so you really don't need to track your "target". wiggle it around (the visibility of the beam will make it easy) and you WILL hit.

I agree that wingnutdaily is a terrible source, but the this should still be a criminal act.

Renowned transvestite sexologist: Gargoyle: And two helecopter pilots suffered permanent partial blindness after what they and others have concluded was a laser attack, fired at their helicopter.

Your point may or may not be valid, but WingNut Daily is about as valid of a source of news as the homeless guy at the local cafe. I suggest you use verifiable sources in the future if you want to be taken seriously

How about a Congressional Finding? (new window)

Renowned transvestite sexologist Quote 2009-12-28 12:09:59 AM
worthlessjuan: Not bullshait . . . the pilot is actually trying to do something, like landing a farking airplane . . . even if they are not "blinded", they might be distracted and getting it a little wrong just might be a lot wrong . . . some of you farkers are so unbelievebaly ignorant, it is amusing.


Might, might, might.

It's wholly unrealistic that's going to happen, even if you set out as your sole purpose of blinding pilots with a laser pointer at O Hare and no one stopped it. Unless you have computer assisted aim and tracking for the laser pointer, you aren't going to realistically hit the human eye. You just aren't.

Does it mean it should be legal to shine laser pointers at plane? No. Is it noteworthy someone did it? Not at all.

One of the things people who get worked up over things like this fail to realize is that life is not safe and it's never going to be safe. On the list of unsafe things likely to kill you, a guy attempting to shine a laser at a plane your are currently riding in is VERY low on that last. The drive to the airport is likely to be more dangerous.

Busting people for doing things like this amounts to feel good politics.

I repeat, some farkers are so unbelievably ignorant it is amusing.

You cannot rationalize doing something so incredibly dangerous as some sort of "fun". I am glad I don't know you. Do you count the fries that go in the bag or weigh it, you obviously don't do anything significant.

Sorry, I don't mean to be mean, but some people do not realize what danger is and end up dead. My only point is DON'T DO IT. The pilot may have a nasty, gusty cross-wind they are constantly adjusting for and the appearance of a green dot on the ceiling of the cockpit is all it takes to distract them, for just a moment, a fateful moment for all of the passengers . . . . DON'T DO IT and don't try to justify it . . . it is so stupid and ignorant.

Man On Fire: 4ft in diameter at one mile

0.04 degrees. My statement that you would need computer assisted control and aim to achieve it still stands. It's not going to happen with a handheld laser pointer.

Do you people seriously think that a laser is still a 1mm dot miles away?

Renowned transvestite sexologist: It's not going to happen with a handheld laser pointer.

What "not happening" might look like. (new window)