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(Entertainment Weekly) Asinine Guy Richie's Sherlock Holmes bastardization set a new record for biggest movie opening on Christmas. Goddammit, read a book, America   (hollywoodinsider.ew.com) divider line 193
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2009-12-27 01:57:12 AM
Oh, subby, I'll take a new version of Sherlock Holmes for the big screen than another retelling of some Jane Austen book that was only made to grab Oscars again.
 
2009-12-27 02:00:45 AM
"herlock Holmes does not care about a girl."

I'm only going to see Rachel McAdams, so who cares....
 
2009-12-27 02:02:46 AM
So was the movie any good?
 
2009-12-27 02:05:00 AM
WFern: You know what? I just can't, for the life of me, get excited for this movie? I hope other folks have enjoyed it, but it looks shockingly mediocre and uninteresting to me. I'm even a Guy Richie fan, but the previews just aren't doing it for me.

Don't trust the trailers on this one. They stripped out all of the detective work from the trailers to make it more palpable for mass audiences, but it's all there. Holmes pulls off some pretty impressive deduction in some places. It may be a different interpretation, but all of the Holmes standbys are there.
 
2009-12-27 02:08:18 AM
I read the Sherlock Holmes stories as a kid. I also just got back from seeing the movie - good pulp action film, nothing wrong with that. Subby can remove the stick from his or her ass.
 
2009-12-27 02:10:33 AM
RemyDuron: Tachikoma: Seriously? I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, but it was a far cry from the Sherlock Holmes that I know and love. Sherlock Holmes doesn't need a girl. Sherlock Holmes doesn't want a girl (Greek Translator as reference. Holmes' older brother asks Sherlock if he still hates women, in fact.)! Sherlock Holmes does not care about a girl.

Except he did fall completely in love with one. "That woman," and all.


You're wrong. Re-read 'A Scandal in Bohemia' again. The beginning begins with the comment: "It was not that he felt any emotion akin to love for Irene Adler."

Homes admired her for her intelligence, but he was not in love with Adler.
 
2009-12-27 02:11:53 AM
mekki: Oh, subby, I'll take a new version of Sherlock Holmes for the big screen than another retelling of some Jane Austen book that was only made to grab Oscars again.

I can't wait for the movie version of Pride and Prejudice and Zombies
 
2009-12-27 02:18:35 AM
Zombie Hitler: So was the movie any good?

I enjoyed it.

Yes, I've read many Sherlock Holmes stories. The Adler stuff was kind of thrown in, but I enjoyed the action-y take on Holmes, it isn't "ripped from the pages" accurate, but if Holmes was going to beat the crap out of people that's how he'd do it.
 
2009-12-27 02:19:44 AM
I bet subby saw "Avatar" and was having orgasms at how amazing and wonderful it was.

You know, it is possible to like an adaptation for exactly what it is, and not go into convulsions because it's not a word-for-word, comma-for-comma rendition of whatever book it was taken from.

It's also possible that subby is just whining because "Avatar" was not number one at the box office this week.
 
2009-12-27 02:20:40 AM
tdpatriots12: Zombie Hitler: So was the movie any good?

I enjoyed it.

Yes, I've read many Sherlock Holmes stories. The Adler stuff was kind of thrown in, but I enjoyed the action-y take on Holmes, it isn't "ripped from the pages" accurate, but if Holmes was going to beat the crap out of people that's how he'd do it.


I don't mind the promise of action, but how was it as a mystery?
 
2009-12-27 02:22:21 AM
Zombie Hitler: I don't mind the promise of action, but how was it as a mystery?

Engaging, well-paced, good dynamic between Holmes and Watson. The story follows the occult which isn't usually my thing - but it worked.
 
2009-12-27 02:32:49 AM
Zombie Hitler: I don't mind the promise of action, but how was it as a mystery?

It was interesting. The big reveal at the end was pretty obvious, but they tossed clues regarding the main plot throughout the movie that all tied together at the end. There may have been a few minor plot holes (and maybe one big one that I can think of), but overall it was pretty logically constructed.
 
2009-12-27 02:34:49 AM
WFern: The Road is the only movie I've found worth seeing this season.

While I may not agree with the other stuff in your post, and really with "the only movie worth seeing" - Up in the Air is fantastic, for one - I love you much for giving love to The Road. Completely, ridiculously, hideously ignored.
 
2009-12-27 02:35:03 AM
Meh, the Wild, Wild West of Sherlock Holmes Movies. It isn't close to the novels. If you like it fine, but it is not even close to what Holmes was actually about.

/You just like special effects.
 
2009-12-27 02:38:33 AM
Sensei Can You See: I devoured every bit of Sherlock Holmes I could get when I was a kid.

Did you devour every last inch of Sherlock Holmes you could?
 
2009-12-27 02:39:29 AM
The best thing about movie adaptations is the amount of material that gets released as a cheap marketing ploy but acts as just more stuff to get more people addicted to it. Right now you could get the whole run of the Basil Rathbone films in a five disc set that, while expensive, is an archival quality print of those films. The BBC finally put out the surviving Peter Cushing TV episodes where he played Sherlock. The Brett series is now on Netflix Instant Viewing and is being re-released for the princely sum of $109.99 on Amazon.

On top of this, you can get a copy of any Sherlock story in a cheap edition or in a grand annotated collection of three hardcovers. Even if the movie isn't that good--and it looks pretty fun--anybody interested in the movie can get the real version if they so desire. So it's all good.
 
2009-12-27 02:42:12 AM
Guntram Shatterhand: The best thing about movie adaptations is the amount of material that gets released as a cheap marketing ploy but acts as just more stuff to get more people addicted to it. Right now you could get the whole run of the Basil Rathbone films in a five disc set that, while expensive, is an archival quality print of those films. The BBC finally put out the surviving Peter Cushing TV episodes where he played Sherlock. The Brett series is now on Netflix Instant Viewing and is being re-released for the princely sum of $109.99 on Amazon.

On top of this, you can get a copy of any Sherlock story in a cheap edition or in a grand annotated collection of three hardcovers. Even if the movie isn't that good--and it looks pretty fun--anybody interested in the movie can get the real version if they so desire. So it's all good.


I am thinking people would be disappointed with Basil Rathbone if they were into the movie.
 
2009-12-27 02:51:56 AM
SilentStrider: spend saturday afternoons watching Doctor Who.

Doctor Who aired Sunday night here when I was a little kid. It still does. First Dr. Who I watched was Tom Baker, when he still had a few years left to go.

MBK: I assume the Holmes books were also considered entertainment,

They were seen as entertainment which was aided greatly by there being short stories published in The Strand magazine. Though the first two stories were novels published in magazines as single volumes. There were also two novels serialized in The Strand. Which at the time was a common way of publishing novels.
 
2009-12-27 02:59:07 AM
People read books for the characters, story, or affinity to an author's style. People watch movies for the characters, story, or affinity to a writer/director/actor. In this case, you have Robert Downey Jr in a period piece(and Jude Law to boot), so that will draw more people than the story or characters(which are better served in a series rather than a movie), Guy Ritchie or not.

RDJ hit it out of the park this decade and people are going to watch his movies(deservedly so) because he's entertaining.
 
2009-12-27 03:10:37 AM
Zombie Hitler: So was the movie any good?

Not bad at all. It's refreshing to see Holmes and Watson demonstrate a bit of panache, and 1860s London makes for a pretty good backdrop. The crime and its resolution is perhaps the weakest link, but that's true for a lot of the books as well, at least in my opinion.
 
2009-12-27 03:18:15 AM
I'm not going to let stuckuphisassmitter to spoil my fun, and though I realize that expressing a positive opinion on Fark is a bankable offense, here goes ...

I liked the movie.
 
2009-12-27 03:18:57 AM
Came for pics of Rachel McAdams, leaving disappointed.
 
2009-12-27 03:19:30 AM
/bannable
 
2009-12-27 03:30:46 AM
It was a fun movie. I think it might inspire me to actually read the books, too.
 
2009-12-27 03:38:36 AM
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well done submitter
 
2009-12-27 03:39:49 AM
www.thetick.ws

READ A BOOK!
 
2009-12-27 03:46:58 AM
I've read all of the original SACD Holmes tales. While I would have liked a story true to the original, I refuse to be butthurt over the changes. I also think that you have to be a total douche to get all bent out of shape over it. If you think that the originals are so great, fine, read them again. Live in your smug bubble if you want to.

The new movie may not be canon, but I've heard nothing but positive things from my friends. Sometimes, it's just okay to get a hint of the original to turn people on to the source. The 80's young Sherlock Holmes movie did that for me, and I'm glad for it. Despite the fact that it was equally objectionable.

So get over it. Besides, theater seats are so much more comfortable when experienced without a stick up one's ass.
 
2009-12-27 03:56:09 AM
I really liked RDJ and Law as Holmes and Watson. They don't really fit the book versions, but they were good as their own thing. I agree with earlier posts about them borrowing the House/Wilson relationship to some extent, but I think that type of adversarial friendship is sort of a common theme in most modern movies (see every buddy-cop movie since the French Connection). The Victorian Watson kissing Holmes ass for two hours just wouldn't play.

But the story just dragged way too much. If a director is going to force an audience to watch a movie for longer than two hours, then it better be Godfather/LOTR/Gone with the Wind excellent. Avatar wasn't necessarily in the same league as those movies, but it was cool enough to keep me entertained the entire time. I'm not sure how it will hold up to repeat viewings.

Sherlock Holmes just had a big one-hour lull in the middle that needed tightening up. But it was good enough that I'll see the next one (presumably with Moriarty as the villain) in the theaters.
 
2009-12-27 03:57:17 AM
Welll, I for one love all the different adaptations of the Jane Austen novels, LOL. I collect them... because I love the characters so much, I have a great time watching all the different versions and seeing it from other people's viewpoints. I can only imagine it will be the same with Sherlock Holmes, as I find RDJr and Jude Law great fun to watch, and I loved 2 of Richie's films... so I hope it's entertaining as heck, which is why I watch movies in the first place. Hate to climb the tardmitter pole here, subby, but sheesh ... I read at least 3 books a week unless I'm tackling something daunting, so a movie is a great break from a book for me.
 
2009-12-27 04:02:31 AM
Having read several Holmes stories, the movie did not offend me in the slightest.

It was entertaining. The action was turned up, as is to be expected.

The deductive leaps were just as ludicrous and out of the blue as they generally were in the books.

Sure, it was ridiculous and imperfect but what do you want? If you want an accurate portrayal of the original stories, go farking read them. Movies are a visual medium and so they will necessarily be different.

Get over it.
 
2009-12-27 04:03:07 AM
Great movie, checking IMDB for the last thing subby directed. Hmm can't find a thing, hmmm after further searching I can find anything that subby ever did anywhere. Imagine that...
 
2009-12-27 04:29:04 AM
Good movie.
I found nothing slow about it, interesting movie science moved to movie action and back again (Explosion and recovery aside(everything else somewhat believable)). Excellent setup for second movie without leaving the audience hanging.

If Ritchie is smart, Moriarty won't be much more of a presence in the next till the very end where only Holmes and Watson know him but have no proof. (Hang an accomplice, Holmes opiate issues kills his witness in the court?)

Holmes/Moriarty conclusion in the 3rd and END! Everyone involved (with any brains in their heads) move on to other projects.
 
2009-12-27 04:39:51 AM
This weekend, I saw some white guilt racism allegorical movie about a character who transforms into another species and discovers what's important in life, and also falls in love with another character while living as another species.

Princess and the Frog was cute. Avatar was alright too.
 
2009-12-27 04:43:16 AM
This movie was flat-out fun. A little over the top sometimes but that's how movies should be, and unlike the majority of his American contemporaries RDJ pulls off a perfect Brit accent for the whole movie. Except for that bomb with the Material Succubus Guy Ritchie generally makes good flashy movies and this is no exception.
 
2009-12-27 04:46:29 AM
Mentat: Don't trust the trailers on this one. They stripped out all of the detective work from the trailers to make it more palpable for mass audiences, but it's all there. Holmes pulls off some pretty impressive deduction in some places. It may be a different interpretation, but all of the Holmes standbys are there.

Well, I am glad to read that at least. One of my big concerns was that they would strip all the mystery out of it.
 
2009-12-27 04:49:22 AM
Or maybe, just maybe, seeing the movie will stimulate interest and have people get into Arthur Conan Doyle.

Dammit, what is the problem with Fark Elitists? You read a book, it's the wrong kind of book (Harry Potter, Angels and Demons). You watch a movie, and you are idiot who never reads.
 
2009-12-27 05:01:52 AM
Er, AGyrfalcon: I bet subby saw "Avatar" and was having orgasms at how amazing and wonderful it was.

You know, it is possible to like an adaptation for exactly what it is, and not go into convulsions because it's not a word-for-word, comma-for-comma rendition of whatever book it was taken from.

It's also possible that subby is just whining because "Avatar" was not number one at the box office this week.


Er, not only is Avatar going to be number one at the box office this weekend, it's going to do it by outgrossing it's first weekend take. There will be no whining about Avatar's take.
Making it's money back and far more is a absolute take-it-to-the-bank LOCK.

More importantly, it'll outgross Transformers 2 :)
 
2009-12-27 05:05:11 AM
It just had good timing. Half the country was either stuck in the snow with nothing better to do than go to the movies, or it was a lazy weekend day with everybody off, and bored after xmas, plus the fact it was raining.
 
2009-12-27 05:08:31 AM
I went to sleep for a few hours only to wake up and see 48 more posts biatching about the headline. who would've guessed?
 
2009-12-27 05:35:09 AM
Do you know how hard it is to read a book in a cinema? There's no light!
 
2009-12-27 05:38:51 AM
bhcompy: People read books for the characters, story, or affinity to an author's style. People watch movies for the characters, story, or affinity to a writer/director/actor. In this case, you have Robert Downey Jr in a period piece(and Jude Law to boot), so that will draw more people than the story or characters(which are better served in a series rather than a movie), Guy Ritchie or not.

RDJ hit it out of the park this decade and people are going to watch his movies(deservedly so) because he's entertaining.


Absolutely. The guy's found his muse. It's startling that he came out of nowhere just to be that. farking. good.

/Can't wait for Iron Man 2
 
2009-12-27 05:40:23 AM
Lernaeus: I'm not going to let stuckuphisassmitter to spoil my fun, and though I realize that expressing a positive opinion on Fark is a bankable offense, here goes ...

I liked the movie.


Well, then, count me in, too. I had a great time watching it.

/it's like saying "Jehovah" isn't it?
 
DOW
2009-12-27 05:51:10 AM
Norad: Or you could, you know, take that giant stick out of your ass submitter...

Over in one.
 
2009-12-27 05:53:01 AM
Definitely a fun movie. Tried to go to the 9:15 pm show, arrived at 8:30, it was sold out along with Avatar. Got tickets for the 10:20 show, which ended up selling out by around 9:10, also along with the next showing of Avatar. It's a pretty big theater and that place was packed as hell on christmas.
 
2009-12-27 05:53:22 AM
Six_By_Nine: bhcompy: People read books for the characters, story, or affinity to an author's style. People watch movies for the characters, story, or affinity to a writer/director/actor. In this case, you have Robert Downey Jr in a period piece(and Jude Law to boot), so that will draw more people than the story or characters(which are better served in a series rather than a movie), Guy Ritchie or not.

RDJ hit it out of the park this decade and people are going to watch his movies(deservedly so) because he's entertaining.

Absolutely. The guy's found his muse. It's startling that he came out of nowhere just to be that. farking. good.

/Can't wait for Iron Man 2


There is nothing startling about it - he's ALWAYS been that. farking. good.

It's just that now he seems to have beaten his demons, which makes me happy, because now he can get back to being one of the finest American actors of this or any other generation.
 
2009-12-27 05:56:48 AM
I hate Sherlock Holmes.


There, I said it. He's boring and annoying. I love literature, I love reading, I hate Sherlock Holmes with a fury.
 
2009-12-27 06:00:17 AM
I think what made me really want to watch Robert Downey Jr. again was Tropic Thunder. That movie was awesome all around, but he just blew it away. When he finally rips off his wig and has his own breakdown, it was a thing of beauty.
 
2009-12-27 06:29:42 AM
jessicat: I hate Sherlock Holmes.


There, I said it. He's boring and annoying. I love literature, I love reading, I hate Sherlock Holmes with a fury.



PSA: No one except you values your opinion.
 
2009-12-27 07:33:06 AM
I went to see the movie. It was very good. RDJ and Jude Law played well off each other. And Rachel McAdams is hot.
www.filmofilia.com

"I've never woken up in handcuffs before."
 
2009-12-27 07:33:23 AM
Good film - enjoyed it. Not really traditional Sherlock Holmes per se, but still a good way to spend a couple of hours.
If you liked it, great. If you didn't, that's great too. Just stop whining.
 
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