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(Entertainment Weekly) Asinine Guy Richie's Sherlock Holmes bastardization set a new record for biggest movie opening on Christmas. Goddammit, read a book, America   (hollywoodinsider.ew.com) divider line 192
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2009-12-26 09:16:21 PM
Or you could, you know, take that giant stick out of your ass submitter...
 
2009-12-26 09:25:41 PM
I can't read books and see movies? Well, f*ck me, what have I been doing all this time?
 
2009-12-26 09:30:02 PM
I'd rather take my wife to a nice movie and go out to eat good Italian food. Or, I could read a book. Or, I could do both! Seriously, that's allowed!

/the movie wasn't great, but pretty darn good
 
2009-12-26 09:38:08 PM
You're telling us to read a book yet you're linking to EW?
 
2009-12-26 09:50:53 PM
Boo hoo. Someone made a movie out of a book.
 
2009-12-26 09:55:22 PM
The movie was fun and not all that incorrect. Go back and enjoy your furry movie.
 
2009-12-26 10:02:47 PM
davidphogan: Boo hoo. Someone made a movie out of a book.

I've never heard of such a thing!
 
2009-12-26 10:05:09 PM
My mom and I have been watching the Granada/Jeremy Brett series. (I bought the set for her for Christmas two years ago; we watch infrequently enough that we're only about halfway through.)

I had no desire to watch this movie, but apparently she thinks she would enjoy it.
Argh. :)
 
2009-12-26 10:10:10 PM
Oh grow up submitter.
 
2009-12-26 10:25:56 PM
You know subby, I don't necessarily know if I'm going to see this movie. But if I do, it's because it will be a fun movie that will provide me with entertainment.

Don't worry, I'll go see Precious too, so I can feel smug and superior, just like you.
 
2009-12-26 10:30:56 PM
I just finished reading "The Hound of the Baskervilles," so I'm getting a kick...
 
2009-12-26 10:35:28 PM
I devoured every bit of Sherlock Holmes I could get when I was a kid. I've also enjoyed the various film/TV adaptations of him.

One mark of good literature is how often the characters and/or stories can survive being reimagined. Richie's take on Holmes was fun; a lot more action than anyone else ever tried heaping on him.

Anyway, I join the chorus of those wondering why you can't read books and also watch movies.
 
2009-12-26 10:40:20 PM
Oh shut up subby. It was a good movie. Granted, it was like watching a Victorian episode of House, but it was still good.
 
2009-12-26 10:44:05 PM
BTW most Sherlock Holmes adaptations are bastardizations on a big scale. Including the much beloved ones featuring Basil Rathbone. Indeed the truest to the original writings have been the series featuring the late Jeremy Brett. Who not only acted as Holmes was described to act, but looked like Holmes in the original illustrations

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www.dandyism.net

/links, like Brett's performances, are hot
 
2009-12-26 10:45:46 PM
Mentat: Victorian episode of House

Apt description since House in many ways is a modern day Holmes, not particularly social, drug addicted, smart as hell, quick witted though doesn't say much and so on.
 
2009-12-26 10:48:44 PM
Mentat: Victorian episode of House

That was my thought too. I swear that there were a couple of things that Downey did that either he got from Laurie or they both got from the same place.
 
2009-12-26 10:50:52 PM
Having just now looked at the actual link, I'm surprised how close Avatar came to holding on to #1. Something about James Cameron gives his movies freaky longevity at the box office.
 
2009-12-26 10:52:55 PM
DamnYankees: Something about James Cameron gives his movies

I believe that something is called not sucking.
 
2009-12-26 10:55:20 PM
 
2009-12-26 10:55:35 PM
GAT_00: That was my thought too. I swear that there were a couple of things that Downey did that either he got from Laurie or they both got from the same place.

The relationship between Holmes and Watson reminded me a lot of House and Wilson.
 
2009-12-26 11:06:02 PM
WhyteRaven74: BTW most Sherlock Holmes adaptations are bastardizations on a big scale. Including the much beloved ones featuring Basil Rathbone. Indeed the truest to the original writings have been the series featuring the late Jeremy Brett. Who not only acted as Holmes was described to act, but looked like Holmes in the original illustrations

Jeremy Brett was amazing as Holmes. Loved his performance of "The Speckled Band", which to this day remains my favorite Holmes story.

WhyteRaven74: Apt description since House in many ways is a modern day Holmes, not particularly social, drug addicted, smart as hell, quick witted though doesn't say much and so on.

deliberate, I think. House, Holmes (home), plays a musical instrument (violin, guitar), rude, arrogant... If I remember correctly, House's apartment was even 221B.
 
2009-12-26 11:07:54 PM
SilentStrider: WhyteRaven74: Apt description since House in many ways is a modern day Holmes, not particularly social, drug addicted, smart as hell, quick witted though doesn't say much and so on.

deliberate, I think. House, Holmes (home), plays a musical instrument (violin, guitar), rude, arrogant... If I remember correctly, House's apartment was even 221B.


The creators of the show have said that its a modern incarnation of Sherlock Holmes. They don't mean it to be a secret or a subtlety.
 
2009-12-26 11:31:11 PM
Guy Richie's Sherlock Holmes bastardization set a new record for biggest movie opening on Christmas. Goddammit, read a book, America

Hmmm...

Submitter has an obvious distaste for modern America, yet can't spell a foreigner's name correctly, placing *him* probably on the west coast... dare I say the northwest, around the Seattle area.

Submitter also voices his yearning for standard use of an older media (ironically, I might add) on a new, incredibly popular, and still-developing new media, suggesting he has read at most *one* of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's tales of Sherlock Holmes, my guess being "The Red-Headed League".

/It's elementary.
//I do have a pipe. That helps with the thinking.
///So does the New Belgium
 
2009-12-26 11:33:14 PM
SilentStrider: Jeremy Brett was amazing as Holmes. Loved his performance of "The Speckled Band", which to this day remains my favorite Holmes story.

It's hard for me to pick out a favorite from all the ones Brett did. I remember watching them when they first art what 20 years ago or so?
 
2009-12-26 11:33:50 PM
WhyteRaven74: art

art = aired
 
2009-12-26 11:55:24 PM
WhyteRaven74: I remember watching them when they first art what 20 years ago or so?

sounds about right. My dad probably has them all recorded on VHS from when they first aired. I remember that used to be something we'd do together, sit down and watch Sherlock Holmes. That, or spend saturday afternoons watching Doctor Who.
 
2009-12-27 12:27:20 AM
Books? They'll rot yer mind.

You need to be out paradin', that's the thing.
 
2009-12-27 01:02:24 AM
Read quite a few of the Sherlock Holmes stories. The movie looks great though and I plan on seeing it.

/I was always more of a Poirot fan.
 
2009-12-27 01:08:38 AM
I think its more impressive that 3 of the top Christmas Day grossers were out this week: Sherlock Holmes (1); Avatar (2); and Alvin and the Chipmunks (4) in a recession year
 
2009-12-27 01:10:18 AM
Well, on average I read about 2 books a week. Maybe only one if it's the 700 page variety. I'm still interested in seeing this movie. Maybe not on the big screen, but perhaps as a rental or a download. Hell if the right group of friends are going, I'll see it in the theater.

The problem with movies that people usually see as Great Cinema is that they are kind of depressing. And sometimes I like to laugh, have fun and when faced with with a character acting in a wholly unlogical way think "Well in that situation I probably wouldn't be thinking clearly either".

Sure, say Holmes would... but cocaine is a hell of a drug.
 
2009-12-27 01:11:46 AM
I'm reading Carlin's memoir Last Words right now, hopefully that counts.
 
2009-12-27 01:15:11 AM
R-E-A-D A B-O-OOOOOOOOOK?
 
2009-12-27 01:15:58 AM
Does Sherlock Holmes beat Whiplash in the end?
 
2009-12-27 01:17:46 AM
Oh and probably been posted before... but read a book (new window) NSFW language
 
2009-12-27 01:24:40 AM
Sherlock Holmes had quite a marketing campaign behind it. I'd be a little concerned if it didn't make it to the top of the box office.
 
2009-12-27 01:26:41 AM
You know what? I just can't, for the life of me, get excited for this movie? I hope other folks have enjoyed it, but it looks shockingly mediocre and uninteresting to me. I'm even a Guy Richie fan, but the previews just aren't doing it for me.

Same with Avatar even. The Road is the only movie I've found worth seeing this season.
 
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2009-12-27 01:27:24 AM
I don't get it...

Our "classic lit" books were a form of entertainment. All of Shakespeare's plays were not written as a form of "high art," but rather for entertainment. I assume the Holmes books were also considered entertainment, instead of "high art."

So, if a book that was originally written for entertainment values is remade into a new medium for entertainment values, is it really a bastardization?

If you want to make "artsy movies", don't use material that was considered entertainment in the first place!
 
2009-12-27 01:28:33 AM
I think the bigger picture here is the abortion put on film, Alvin part 2 isn't the top movie this weekend. That's something I think we can all be happy about, right?
 
2009-12-27 01:30:49 AM
WFern: I just can't, for the life of me, get excited for this movie?.

Derp. Lern 2 internet
 
2009-12-27 01:30:52 AM
is this another TROLL HEADLINE? yes, yes it is. and yet there will still be 50 more posts yelling at the troll.
 
2009-12-27 01:30:52 AM
GAT_00: The movie was fun and not all that incorrect. Go back and enjoy your furry movie.

Seriously? I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, but it was a far cry from the Sherlock Holmes that I know and love. Sherlock Holmes doesn't need a girl. Sherlock Holmes doesn't want a girl (Greek Translator as reference. Holmes' older brother asks Sherlock if he still hates women, in fact.)! Sherlock Holmes does not care about a girl.

But it was a fun movie. Did anyone else think that Lord Blackwell looked like Jeremy Brett? I was tired when I went and saw it, and that gave me a shock. The voice was completely different, though, so it kept weirding me out every time he spoke.

/rewatching the Brett series now
//grew up watching the Brett series
 
2009-12-27 01:34:18 AM
Tachikoma: Seriously? I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, but it was a far cry from the Sherlock Holmes that I know and love. Sherlock Holmes doesn't need a girl. Sherlock Holmes doesn't want a girl (Greek Translator as reference. Holmes' older brother asks Sherlock if he still hates women, in fact.)! Sherlock Holmes does not care about a girl.

Except he did fall completely in love with one. "That woman," and all.
 
2009-12-27 01:35:28 AM
I'm reading "The Hunt for Red October." Does that count as a book, or do I have to try reading "Don Quixote" for the 5th time without hurling it across the room?
 
2009-12-27 01:36:35 AM
RemyDuron: Tachikoma: Seriously? I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, but it was a far cry from the Sherlock Holmes that I know and love. Sherlock Holmes doesn't need a girl. Sherlock Holmes doesn't want a girl (Greek Translator as reference. Holmes' older brother asks Sherlock if he still hates women, in fact.)! Sherlock Holmes does not care about a girl.

Except he did fall completely in love with one. "That woman," and all.


Sorry, it's "The woman." Irene Addler. In the very first Sherlock Holmes story.
 
2009-12-27 01:39:21 AM
Heh, the Holmes fanboys actually make comic book fanboys look good by comparison.
 
2009-12-27 01:47:05 AM
Jaws_Victim: I'm reading "The Hunt for Red October." Does that count as a book, or do I have to try reading "Don Quixote" for the 5th time without hurling it across the room?

Are you kidding? That's one of the best books ever! Perhaps the most amazing and truly timeless of all the big time classic literature books.

It really speaks to nerds on a level I have not seen any other piece of classical literature do. It's got an amazing degree of cleverness and character. It's the archetype for a lot of Buddy movies, if they aren't following the Gilgamesh model.

Perhaps if you didn't play RPGs it doesn't resonate quite so much.
 
2009-12-27 01:47:10 AM
Sensei Can You See: I devoured every bit of Sherlock Holmes I could get when I was a kid. I've also enjoyed the various film/TV adaptations of him.

One mark of good literature is how often the characters and/or stories can survive being reimagined. Richie's take on Holmes was fun; a lot more action than anyone else ever tried heaping on him.

Anyway, I join the chorus of those wondering why you can't read books and also watch movies.


THIS
 
2009-12-27 01:49:08 AM
SilentStrider: Oh grow up submitter.

Yeah he completely ignores that the transformers movies made more over seas than they did in the states, same with national treasure. Both those films suck yet international crowds went wild for them so dont blame the US exclusively, there is plenty of blame to go around.
 
2009-12-27 01:50:09 AM
Tachikoma: GAT_00: The movie was fun and not all that incorrect. Go back and enjoy your furry movie.

Seriously? I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, but it was a far cry from the Sherlock Holmes that I know and love. Sherlock Holmes doesn't need a girl. Sherlock Holmes doesn't want a girl (Greek Translator as reference. Holmes' older brother asks Sherlock if he still hates women, in fact.)! Sherlock Holmes does not care about a girl.

But it was a fun movie. Did anyone else think that Lord Blackwell looked like Jeremy Brett? I was tired when I went and saw it, and that gave me a shock. The voice was completely different, though, so it kept weirding me out every time he spoke.

/rewatching the Brett series now
//grew up watching the Brett series


I just looked it up on Netflix and dear god you are right. I had seen him before, but he really is absolutely perfect for it. He really puts forth the parts of the character which got paralleled in House.
 
2009-12-27 01:57:12 AM
Oh, subby, I'll take a new version of Sherlock Holmes for the big screen than another retelling of some Jane Austen book that was only made to grab Oscars again.
 
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