FishyFred: Not as much as it changed the music industry.

Peer-to-peer.

Yes, the introduction of "talkies" was insignificant in comparison.

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so "revolutionary" equals remaking 80's and 90's hits, churning out sequel after sequel, and green-lighting every script based off of a comic book?

i guess they should just do those all once again but this time in 3D and the next decade will be just as "revolutionary".

I have to admit... when they remade Dances with Wolves into a 3D experience it was pretty revolutionary.


/gonna see it on IMAX today

To be fair, the article doesn't say "more than any other in history", though the headline does say "Decade changed film biz - 3D pics, overseas auds changed gameplan", because it's Variety, and they have no time to spell out "business", "pictures" or "audiences". They just get to the workin' overtime part.

FishyFred: Sun God: FishyFred: Not as much as it changed the music industry.

Peer-to-peer.

Exactly.

Don't mean to be a party pooper, but isn't P2P from the 90s?

If by changed you mean continued to strip mine the 80's, and put out the same tired crap that they always do then yes.

farscape: If by changed you mean continued to strip mine the 80's, and put out the same tired crap that they always do then yes.

And it doesn't even have that nice producer filled to the brim with vodka and cocaine feel either.

dopeydwarf: Yeah, the last decade brought new levels of suckage to the industry.

/DNRTFA and don't intend to.
//Seriously, I wouldn't even have to take off my shoes to count the number of good films that came out in the last decade.

Really? You've seen all of the close to one million films that were produced over the course of the last decade from every nation upon the globe where humans possess both film equipment and the will to use it?

However did you find the time for sleep or work or Farking?

What have I learned from eight years of Farking?

Never click a link from ESPN, unless you love loud videos that autoplay.
Never click a link from Contactmusic, unless you love stupidity.
Never click a link from Variety, unless you're too busy to read an article that's written in English.

I just thought I'd share my "wisdom."

The fact that comic book movies can win Oscars IS kind of a big deal. Then you have Avatar. Yeah I can see how its been a huge decade.

/avatar was amazing
/go cry about it elsewhere

Sun God: FishyFred: Not as much as it changed the music industry.

Peer-to-peer.

The industry did not change, except for selling more online. Theft by others is not change.

"And Pixar was the little toon shop outside San Francisco that made cute movies on its computers".

Toy Story: 1995
Bugs Life: 1998
Toy Story 2: 1999

If the first paragraph failed this bad I wonder how inaccurate the other statements in the article are.
Perhaps some better research next time.

Candygram4Mongo: "Tyranny of the Tentpole?"

What the hell is THAT supposed to mean?

Somebody is angry about the penis?

A foreign affair: Until the new millennium, other countries never watched American films. The 2003 Eurpoean discovery of "Star Wars," "Jaws" and "Close Encounters" shook that continent to its core.

Shaking up the majors: Somebody got fired? Omigod!

The tyranny of the tentpole: Because studios didn't count on them when they called them "Blockbusters."

Shrink wrap and shrunk windows: Blu-Ray is the counter attack, with blu-ray burners prohibitively expensive and 1080p the new video standard unsupported natively by the old tech.

The forgotten female demo: Because men have traditionally flocked to rancid Romantic comedies, Nora Ephron films, and musicals throughout the history of cinema. You go, girls...

Studios toy with their slates: Following a long tradition of grubbing, Hollywood continued to make half-assed films that try to cash in on the juvenile market. This tradition started as early as 1940 with movies based on comics, like "Batman," "Captain Marvel," and "Flash Gordon."

3D is the answer: One success, a thousand failures: the best "Answer" since Alan Iverson.

In other news, I invented this thing last year - I call it "Masturbation." It will revolutionize sexuality in the 2010s.

FeedTheCollapse: perigee: 3D is the answer: One success, a thousand failures

though I agree with your other points, I still think the 3D naysayers are willfully ignorant. Starting with Coraline, 3D has been huge this year. I think Avatar might've passed the idea from family films (which were the primary utilization) to more action/adult-ish films. I can't speak for all the 3D films, but Coraline at least didn't resort to the "OMFG IT'S COMING RIGHT AT YOU!" 3D of old; instead it added visual depth to the film. Though it sounds like the next step is translating these films to 3D in home markets, which is where there's some translation problems.



I just watched a pirate copy of Final Destination on '3D' - using those old skool red and green glasses.

Having seen Avartar in 3D with the polarised glasses - in this aspect of cinema, at least - it's like film-makers have eventually discovered fire.

Biggest development in cinema since sound, colour, widescreen, digital sound, buttered popcorn.

And by the way, 3D isn't the answer...it's an answer.

Not all films will look great in 3D, and certainly, I don't wish to see certain films in 3D either.

I can't imagine wanting to see a family drama starring Meryl Streep in 3D, for example.

FishyFred: Sun God: FishyFred: Not as much as it changed the music industry.

Peer-to-peer.

Exactly.

That's true but it isn't really all that comparable since the nature of film seeing is still best done at the cinema. Until we all have huge mega displays in our homes, that'll forever be the case.

However, in seeing films that might not otherwise be accesible, like music, the choice in seeing them in our small monitors and LCDs at home is more or less the same now in that I can pretty much download any film I want, from any decade and from any country.

Dvdrips for the win!

/also applies to tv programmes

No disagreement, FTC; however, proper usage doesn't make 3D "The Answer." Jaws 3D would be a screaming heap, even if they "did it right." I haven't seen "Avatar" yet (scheduled for the 30th with the kidling), but I'm sure that the 3D portion is not the make-or-break of the film.

"The Answer" to a good film has a whole bunch of priorities, of which three dimensions will always come in dead last. To suggest that adding that bit of tech to any film is a magic ingredient for success is, to say the least a sensational and untrue statement.

Case in point - this years "Christmas Carol" was 3D, but came in 6th overall in box office for Christmas films - unadjusted for inflation. Tweak the numbers, and it came in below "The Santa Claus 3."

It would be battling for position with "Fred Claus."

I have nothing against the tech; but if you don't have story, casting, cinematography and effects (pick 2 out of 4), 3D isn't going to buy you a magic boxoffice

This last decade did very much change the industry and not for the better.

perigee: No disagreement, FTC; however, proper usage doesn't make 3D "The Answer." Jaws 3D would be a screaming heap, even if they "did it right." I haven't seen "Avatar" yet (scheduled for the 30th with the kidling), but I'm sure that the 3D portion is not the make-or-break of the film.


I have not seen it yet either, but thats basically exactly what I'm getting out of reading the various reviews. It's visually stunning, the fight scenes are cool, and it has a lame, utterly half-assed story.

SurahAhriman: I have not seen it yet either, but thats basically exactly what I'm getting out of reading the various reviews. It's visually stunning, the fight scenes are cool, and it has a lame, utterly half-assed story.

I finally saw it yesterday. Had these identical expectations, and ended up being disappointed by the visuals (although it is visually remarkable, but not quite the "game changer" it's been described as), and surprisingly impressed by the story (although it's a by-the-numbers plot that's been done a thousand times with few surprises, but it's well told).

Not entirely sure the 3D merited the extra 5 bucks per ticket. I think it's still a gimmick. It was a gimmick utilized to decent effect, but nonetheless a gimmick.

I'd give it a 7 out of 10.

GungFu Having seen Avartar in 3D with the polarised glasses - in this aspect of cinema, at least - it's like film-makers have eventually discovered fire BWANA DEVIL.
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SurahAhriman has a lame, utterly half-assed story.

If you saw "Aliens" & "The Abyss" in the 80's, just think of "Avatar" as the retarded cousin who stayed too long of those movies with really good-but exhausting-3-D

Worst part of Avatar: Subtitles in a yellow Papyrus font. Yuck. Someone should've warned me.

Candygram4Mongo: "Tyranny of the Tentpole?"

What the hell is THAT supposed to mean?

I thought it was when you were a teenager in class and you were afraid to stand up because the tent pole had inexplicably struck again.

if hollywood has changed so much, when are they going to stop making chiddy movies? or at least make the pictures more inclusive. all these changes and i feel as irrelevant as ever, and frankly, i feel my brain is insulted by 99 percent of the movies out there. however, i am glad hollywood brought back the raunchy comedy, but did not make it as stupid as the ones in the '80s. 'old school' and 'the hangover' were great.

FeedTheCollapse: this assumes that all downloads that aren't paid for are illegal.

No, I assume that downloads that aren't paid for are theft. (Unless they are giveaways, of course, but I'm only talking of theft here.)

FeedTheCollapse: I still think the 3D naysayers are willfully ignorant. Starting with Coraline, 3D has been huge this year. I think Avatar might've passed the idea from family films (which were the primary utilization) to more action/adult-ish films. I can't speak for all the 3D films, but Coraline at least didn't resort to the "OMFG IT'S COMING RIGHT AT YOU!" 3D of old; instead it added visual depth to the film. Though it sounds like the next step is translating these films to 3D in home markets, which is where there's some translation problems.

I just don't see 3D as the wave of the future - it's a gimmick from the past, dug up by Hollywood in an attempt to give movie viewers an incentive to keep movie theaters from going the way of the Drive-In, which is inevitable. Since theater owners' idea of evolving their business model is rasing the price of a Coke to $5 or more, they can suck it.

I agree that Coraline had some cool 3D moments, but overall most 3D movies suffer from muted colors, and the glasses are uncomfortable and annoying. To me most 3D movie don't truly look three dimensional - they look like pop-up books with multiple layers of 2D images - not terribly exciting for the most part.

I think the best 3D effects I've ever seen were in Disney's Captain EO, which is a 25-year-old movie (it's also coming back to Disneyland in Feb).

I really don't care what technology is used to make a movie if it's well-written and engaging.

dopeydwarf: Japancakes: dopeydwarf: Yeah, the last decade brought new levels of suckage to the industry.

/DNRTFA and don't intend to.
//Seriously, I wouldn't even have to take off my shoes to count the number of good films that came out in the last decade.

Really? You've seen all of the close to one million films that were produced over the course of the last decade from every nation upon the globe where humans possess both film equipment and the will to use it?

However did you find the time for sleep or work or Farking?


Yes, I didn't, I didn't, and hell yes. You just like being an obstinate arse, right? You should go see Alvin and the Chipmunks again. And again. And again.

Words mean things. If you'd typed "I wouldn't even have to take off my shoes to count the number of good films that came out in the last decade THAT I'D VIEWED", I wouldn't have given enough of a shiite to type what I did. (and, believe me, i just met the minimum threshold of giving enough of a shiite to type what i did).

As for "Alvin": given the choice, I'd sooner willingly gargle Death's seed for the whole of eternity than live with the mortal pain of knowing that I had viewed that film.

3-D dvd players: The shiat they sell to you after we all buy blu-ray players.

dopeydwarf:
...You sound like you have waaaay too much time on your hands.

I thought that that was a given for anybody who takes the time to post here.

If this joint ain't for airing our wholly irrelevant cranial flatulence, then what is it for?