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2009-12-26 08:48:07 PM
Gyrfalcon: I can only assume you dolts who get on planes full of crying babies are like you morons who go to theaters full of talking teenagers.

No one told me that living in a society would bring me into contact with humans and their behavior.
 
2009-12-26 08:48:46 PM
Gyrfalcon: NeedleGuy: from one news link: Dr Mutallab is said to have warned the US authorities about his son's extreme views six months ago. Abdulmutallab was reportedly on a security watch list,

So the US authorities knew about this guy, he was on a security watch list and still was able to fly into the United States with no questions asked.

I guess you don't get much for the trillion dollars our government has spent on the War on TerrorTM these days.

BECAUSE HE GOT ON THE PLANE SOMEPLACE ELSE!!!

I don't know why that seems to be eluding everyone. US authorities can know a guy wants to murder the President; but that's not going to help if the assassin buys a ticket in Nigeria and gets on the plane in Lagos with a layover in Amsterdam. F*ck


He had a US visa that was good thru 2011.
The US homeland security (or WTF it calls itself these days)
REQUIRES persons from visa waiver countries (UK, etc) register with the US government
Link (new window)

Nobody in the EU WANTS to visit the US.
I'm a US citizen and I don't want to visit. I travel all over for work and visiting the US is the worst
 
2009-12-26 08:48:46 PM
funsized: (I'm using this thread to kill time until I pick my mom up from her flight in from Detroit, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies....)

Well let me help you kill some more time.

This better world the our Government and the TSA want us to live in...about that...

i50.tinypic.com
 
2009-12-26 08:49:38 PM
I'm getting sick of this.

It's getting to the point where I'm about ready to swear off commercial airlines for everything but inter-continental travel.

The more of an invasive hassle flying becomes, the more attractive Amtrak becomes as an alternative. No matter how much longer it takes.

You hear that, terrorists? You've won. You've made flying absolutely suck for millions of Americans, and you've made our own government do it to us. Congratulations.
 
2009-12-26 08:49:58 PM
TheSignPost: All the people who will complain The TSA don't have the first clue about how to run a security operation and will never have been shot at, or had their lives threatened in any meaningful way.

All the people who run security operations don't give the slightest fark about the feelings of those who complain.

The aim of terrorism is to disrupt your activity.

Mission Accomplished.
 
2009-12-26 08:50:32 PM
funsized: (I'm using this thread to kill time until I pick my mom up from her flight in from Detroit, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies....)

I eagerly await the day technology allows replies to kick. :P
 
2009-12-26 08:51:00 PM
WOW. yeah. great idea. let's terrorize average civilians because 0.001% of "Muzzies" as you call them, are extremists.
speaking of extremists, which backwoods bible camp gutter did you crawl out of?


I'm not religious AT ALL. And I am dammed sick and tired of all the pussyfooting around when it comes to dealing with these invading barbarians. Stomp them into farkin' meatpaste and be done with it. I am tired of all the bullshiat I have to put up with when flying because we won't farkin' kick the asses of the ONLY PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE: MUSLIMS!
 
2009-12-26 08:51:28 PM
AntiNorm: T.M.S.: Have you considerd taking medication when you fly?

It might cut down on your non-stop crying.

At least my crying doesn't annoy every single person on the goddamned plane. The same cannot be said of your little crotch dropping.




PRO TIP: Baby don't like flying...
 
2009-12-26 08:52:27 PM
Why don't they just remove the restrooms while they're at it.

/soon, it'll be easier to just walk.
 
2009-12-26 08:52:57 PM
"wahhhhh im a muslim, wahhhhh. we hate everything. wahhhh. now flying gonna suck for you infidels"

wtf is with these guys anyway?
 
2009-12-26 08:53:15 PM
AntiNorm: T.M.S.: Have you considerd taking medication when you fly?

It might cut down on your non-stop crying.

At least my crying doesn't annoy every single person on the goddamned plane. The same cannot be said of your little crotch dropping.


Don't sell yourself short.

I'm sure you are much more annoying than you give yourself credit for.
 
2009-12-26 08:53:37 PM
CougarJeff: Let's just start putting everyone in hibernation chambers when we check in.

Fill the passenger cabin with reefer smoke ala Cheech and Chong.
 
2009-12-26 08:53:56 PM
The T.S.A. planned to add more security resources as needed on a daily basis, a person with knowledge of the agency's plans said. The person said travelers would not experience the same thing at every airport, and that the system would be unpredictable by design.

sbadrinath.files.wordpress.com
The new TSA?
 
2009-12-26 08:54:29 PM
Can we have this rule for movie theaters too?
 
2009-12-26 08:54:55 PM
mark12A: WOW. yeah. great idea. let's terrorize average civilians because 0.001% of "Muzzies" as you call them, are extremists.
speaking of extremists, which backwoods bible camp gutter did you crawl out of?

I'm not religious AT ALL. And I am dammed sick and tired of all the pussyfooting around when it comes to dealing with these invading barbarians. Stomp them into farkin' meatpaste and be done with it. I am tired of all the bullshiat I have to put up with when flying because we won't farkin' kick the asses of the ONLY PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE: MUSLIMS!


"Hello, I need to hire five non-Arab mercenaries to hijack a plane. $10,000 each, plus the same for their families if they don't survive. Indonesian? Perfect. We'll wire the money to Jakarta. Allahu Akbar!"
 
2009-12-26 08:55:17 PM
It might be the Vicodin talking, but this thread is really amusing me. Kind of irritating too, but in more of a 'dude, you're such a douche' way than an 'I must get in the middle of this.'.

/you know who you are. Douche.
 
2009-12-26 08:55:38 PM
SlothB77: more:

His father, Umaru, is the former economics minister of Nigeria. He retired earlier this month as the chairman of the First Bank of Nigeria but is still on the boards of several of Nigeria's biggest firms, including Jaiz International, a holding company for the Islamic Bank. The 70-year-old, who was also educated in London, holds the Commander of the Order of the Niger as well as the Italian Order of Merit.


Wow. I wonder if he'll need to move a large sum of money out of the country now. Maybe I can help, for a finder's fee.
 
2009-12-26 08:55:39 PM
mark12A: invading barbarians

I can take a guess at how mark12A handles illegal immigration discussions...

/imagines him sittin' on his porch
//tin foil crown glistening in the Pennsylvania sun
 
2009-12-26 08:55:42 PM
T.M.S.: Don't sell yourself short.

I'm sure you are much more annoying than you give yourself credit for.


I'm sure I am annoying at times. That doesn't discount the fact that screaming babies are EXTREMELY annoying, to everyone else on the plane (not just me).
 
2009-12-26 08:55:44 PM
I really didn't expect much from the Obaminskis. Not much.

All I hoped was that they wouldn't be quite as STOOPID as the Bushniks.

After this move, I can hardly wait to hear "proof" that Iran was involved.
 
2009-12-26 08:55:55 PM
Also, as an electrical engineer who has the knowledge to hotwire a lithium-ion battery pack from your [insert electronic device here] to create a nice chemical fire/explode, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...

/Seriously, every one of your precious little electronic devices, laptops, ipods, is a potential bomb...
//we should ban everything to keep us safe on planes, including a ban on breathing recycled air.
 
2009-12-26 08:56:23 PM
SapperInTexas: DamnYankees: This country is full of and run by utter cowards. Just pathetic.

THIS.

Start strip-searching the brown-skin guys with beards. They're the ones responsible. That's not racism, that's simple statistics. (Muslim male, 17-40 years old, we've all seen that e-mail by now) But our leaders won't come out and say it. Cowards.


I felt the same way after the Oklahoma City Bombing. Except it was white rednecks that I wanted to see strip searched. Especially ones from Texas.
 
2009-12-26 08:56:25 PM
Jane Douche: It might be the Vicodin talking, but this thread is really amusing me. Kind of irritating too, but in more of a 'dude, you're such a douche' way than an 'I must get in the middle of this.'.

/you know who you are. Douche.
 
2009-12-26 08:56:26 PM
Doc Daneeka: I'm getting sick of this.

It's getting to the point where I'm about ready to swear off commercial airlines for everything but inter-continental travel.

The more of an invasive hassle flying becomes, the more attractive Amtrak becomes as an alternative. No matter how much longer it takes.

You hear that, terrorists? You've won. You've made flying absolutely suck for millions of Americans, and you've made our own government do it to us. Congratulations.


Say the titty-baby who flys once a year from bum-frak to cliche family destination.

Kindly STFU & DIAF.

The people in this thread that biatch the loudest are the ones who travel the least....

Your average corporate travel guy or gal, while we grumble, also are typically more than happy with flying.

I fly AA constantly and honestly typically am ok. I dont get the flying hatred but w/e you guys can whine all you want. I know you are actually a bunch of butt-hurt travel hating basement dwellers who leave once every 3 years.
 
2009-12-26 08:56:53 PM
Doc Daneeka:

Doc! Jump Doc! Get out of the plane!!
 
2009-12-26 08:57:29 PM
Gyrfalcon: I can only assume you dolts who get on planes full of crying babies are like you morons who go to theaters full of talking teenagers. I've yet to get on any flight where I was surrounded by shrieking babies, and I've been flying back & forth across the country since I was 5 myself.

I took a red-eye flight from Seattle to NYC once. Had a baby in the seat immediately behind me - shrieking at full volume the entire five hours, continuously from take-off to landing. About one foot behind my head. For five hours. Headphones did nothing to block it out. I wasn't able to sleep a wink all night (and I had to work the next day).

Worst flight I ever took, and one of the most unpleasant experiences in my life. I was sick and exhausted the entire next day, and had a splitting headache for the next 24 hours.

Putting aside for a moment the entire debate about babies on planes ... who the hell takes their baby on a red-eye?!? Where people are expecting to be able to get some sleep?
 
2009-12-26 08:57:32 PM
mark12A: WOW. yeah. great idea. let's terrorize average civilians because 0.001% of "Muzzies" as you call them, are extremists.
speaking of extremists, which backwoods bible camp gutter did you crawl out of?

I'm not religious AT ALL. And I am dammed sick and tired of all the pussyfooting around when it comes to dealing with these invading barbarians. Stomp them into farkin' meatpaste and be done with it. I am tired of all the bullshiat I have to put up with when flying because we won't farkin' kick the asses of the ONLY PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE: MUSLIMS!


Well, the obvious solution is to bomb Iran then, right? RIGHT?
 
2009-12-26 08:58:01 PM
moops: funsized: Because God only knows that there are certainly no circumstances where a child has to fly-

No, there are none. You don't get to invade everybody's personal space because you have a child screaming, kicking, and running up and down the aisles.


What happens if you are transferred to another country? Put the kid up for adoption?
Quit your well paying job?
Take trains and a boat?

I am not a big fan of kids and you have no right subjecting my boat or train ride to someone's brat just because you want them off your plane.

Plus if you really want to think about it plane travel is really the best way to transport your brat with the use of public transportation. You are subjecting people to your brat for the least amount of time possible.
 
2009-12-26 08:58:07 PM
UltimaCS: mark12A: invading barbarians

I can take a guess at how mark12A handles illegal immigration discussions...

/imagines him sittin' on his porch
//tin foil crown glistening in the Pennsylvania sun


He's probably whiter than an Idaho snowfall.
 
2009-12-26 08:58:44 PM
The further Pussification of America continues...
 
2009-12-26 08:59:02 PM
This will end well.

At least one greenlight next week with TSA/Airport Security and a family with a pre-Kindergarten kid over the new rules.

/yes, we drive
//smug South Park driver pic
 
2009-12-26 08:59:13 PM
DFWPhotoGuy: Doc Daneeka: I'm getting sick of this.

It's getting to the point where I'm about ready to swear off commercial airlines for everything but inter-continental travel.

The more of an invasive hassle flying becomes, the more attractive Amtrak becomes as an alternative. No matter how much longer it takes.

You hear that, terrorists? You've won. You've made flying absolutely suck for millions of Americans, and you've made our own government do it to us. Congratulations.

Say the titty-baby who flys once a year from bum-frak to cliche family destination.

Kindly STFU & DIAF.

The people in this thread that biatch the loudest are the ones who travel the least....

Your average corporate travel guy or gal, while we grumble, also are typically more than happy with flying.

I fly AA constantly and honestly typically am ok. I dont get the flying hatred but w/e you guys can whine all you want. I know you are actually a bunch of butt-hurt travel hating basement dwellers who leave once every 3 years.


I just read my post. It came across a little too much gym in 26 minutes /internet tough-guy / studman69.

I am chugging a bunch of harpoon IPA's right now so things are starting to go spinny.

REGARDLESS! I dont get the flying hatred. I have said this multiple times...I fly ALL THE TIME and honestly other than people who DONT KNOW HOW TO TRAVEL I typically have a great time.
 
2009-12-26 08:59:17 PM
boiseguardian.com
 
2009-12-26 08:59:54 PM
Doc Daneeka: I'm getting sick of this.

Staying true to your character, I see.
 
2009-12-26 09:00:38 PM
TheSignPost: All the people who will complain don't have the first clue about how to run a security operation and will never have been shot at, or had their lives threatened in any meaningful way.

All the people who run security operations don't give the slightest fark about the feelings of those who complain.

The aim of terrorism is to disrupt your activity.

Mission Accomplished.


I think that everyone's big problem is c) the people who run security operations don't know how to run security operations.

Not being able to leave your seat for the last hour of a flight is going to cause grandma to piss her pants, not prevent a terrorist attack.
 
2009-12-26 09:00:42 PM
"Hello, I need to hire five non-Arab mercenaries to hijack a plane. $10,000 each, plus the same for their families if they don't survive. Indonesian? Perfect. We'll wire the money to Jakarta. Allahu Akbar!"

Where in ANY of my posts have I said ARAB? The problem is MUSLIMS. And why the HELL would mercenaries go on a suicide mission. Kinda defeats the purpose of being a merc, don't cha think?

Sweat ALL muslims until they clean up their act or leave western civilization.
 
2009-12-26 09:00:53 PM
It is obvious from this thread we have major issues with fat muslim babies who work for the TSA.
 
2009-12-26 09:01:54 PM
DFWPhotoGuy: Doc Daneeka: I'm getting sick of this.

It's getting to the point where I'm about ready to swear off commercial airlines for everything but inter-continental travel.

The more of an invasive hassle flying becomes, the more attractive Amtrak becomes as an alternative. No matter how much longer it takes.

You hear that, terrorists? You've won. You've made flying absolutely suck for millions of Americans, and you've made our own government do it to us. Congratulations.

Say the titty-baby who flys once a year from bum-frak to cliche family destination.

Kindly STFU & DIAF.

The people in this thread that biatch the loudest are the ones who travel the least....

Your average corporate travel guy or gal, while we grumble, also are typically more than happy with flying.

I flyattend AA constantly and honestly typically am ok. I dont get the flying hatred but w/e you guys can whine all you want. I know you are actually a bunch of butt-hurt travel hating basement dwellers who leave once every 3 years.


But which airline do you prefer?
 
2009-12-26 09:02:36 PM
fark this. I'm taking a train.

//what's that? I have to be locked up where because I have an unloaded handgun?

http://www.gadling.com/2009/12/19/new-law-demands-that-gun-carrying-amtrak-pass e ngers-be-locked-in/

aw the hell with this I'm jsut driving...
 
2009-12-26 09:03:02 PM
AntiNorm: T.M.S.: Don't sell yourself short.

I'm sure you are much more annoying than you give yourself credit for.

I'm sure I am annoying at times. That doesn't discount the fact that screaming babies are EXTREMELY annoying, to everyone else on the plane (not just me).


Agreed. That's why I am glad my baby doesn't scream on planes.

Even when she was attacked by a self righteous crusader of the noble "no children on planes" movement she still refused to cry.

She's tough like that I guess.
 
2009-12-26 09:03:35 PM
AntiNorm: T.M.S.: Have you considerd taking medication when you fly?



FTFY
 
2009-12-26 09:03:35 PM
Infinite Monkeys In Front Of A Computer: I felt the same way after the Oklahoma City Bombing. Except it was white rednecks that I wanted to see strip searched. Especially ones from Texas.

Right, except the only suspects in the beginner were brown people. We certainly showed our racism on that one:
At first, the original reports from witnesses described two "middle eastern males" in blue jumpsuits or jogging suits spotted in the immediate area of the Murrah building. The Media picked up on this lead, and with the FBI and international law enforcement agencies rapidly becoming involved, working feverishly to track any such suspects, a single middle-eastern male was apprehended in London at Heathrow Airport, allegedly with explosive materials in his luggage. He had left the U.S. earlier that day and came under immediate scrutiny due to description, age, timing and profile.
 
2009-12-26 09:04:24 PM
KiwDaWabbit:

Not being able to leave your seat for the last hour of a flight is going to cause grandma to piss her pants, not prevent a terrorist attack.


And that'll get clened up real well on the 15 minute turnaround
 
2009-12-26 09:04:41 PM
mark12A: Where in ANY of my posts have I said ARAB? The problem is MUSLIMS.

Damn, you're stupid.

The problem is FUNDAMENTALISTS.
 
2009-12-26 09:04:56 PM
mark12A: "Hello, I need to hire five non-Arab mercenaries to hijack a plane. $10,000 each, plus the same for their families if they don't survive. Indonesian? Perfect. We'll wire the money to Jakarta. Allahu Akbar!"

Where in ANY of my posts have I said ARAB? The problem is MUSLIMS. And why the HELL would mercenaries go on a suicide mission. Kinda defeats the purpose of being a merc, don't cha think?

Sweat ALL muslims until they clean up their act or leave western civilization.


All of them? Everywhere? God, you're stupid. Go back under your bridge.
 
2009-12-26 09:05:20 PM
NutWrench: "Hey Achmed, did you hear the TSA has banned people from getting up during the last hour of a flight?"

"NOW what shall we do? Curse those infidels! They are too clever for us!"


HAHAHA Yea exactly!

I can just see it now. Osama and his buddies are in a cave somewhere and the messenger runs in:

Messenger: "Osama!! You know your latest plan where the hijackers will get out of their seats 30 minutes before landing??? Look at the news! WE'RE SCREWED!! It's against the rules now!!!"

Osama: "Oh, crap! Time to scrap those 10 years of planning and start again!"

What really bothers me is that this satire seems to have never even crossed Janet Napolitano's mind.
 
2009-12-26 09:05:52 PM
Combined with the 80% of flight that the carts are blocking the aisles that leaves about 15-20 minutes for everyone to take a piss.
 
2009-12-26 09:08:28 PM
Babies tend to cry at the start and end of a flight as the pressure changes and they don't know how to deal with it.
 
2009-12-26 09:08:31 PM
Combined with the 80% of flight that the carts are blocking the aisles that leaves about 15-20 minutes for everyone to take a piss.

Unless you're over 40, you won't need to.
 
2009-12-26 09:08:54 PM
AbbeySomeone: DFWPhotoGuy: Doc Daneeka: I'm getting sick of this.

It's getting to the point where I'm about ready to swear off commercial airlines for everything but inter-continental travel.

The more of an invasive hassle flying becomes, the more attractive Amtrak becomes as an alternative. No matter how much longer it takes.

You hear that, terrorists? You've won. You've made flying absolutely suck for millions of Americans, and you've made our own government do it to us. Congratulations.

Say the titty-baby who flys once a year from bum-frak to cliche family destination.

Kindly STFU & DIAF.

The people in this thread that biatch the loudest are the ones who travel the least....

Your average corporate travel guy or gal, while we grumble, also are typically more than happy with flying.

I flyattend AA constantly and honestly typically am ok. I dont get the flying hatred but w/e you guys can whine all you want. I know you are actually a bunch of butt-hurt travel hating basement dwellers who leave once every 3 years.

But which airline do you prefer?


HA! I should probably update my profile seeing as I have fallen off the wagon. again. But wtf...we finally are planning our wedding! Its time to celebrate!

And yeah I typically fly American Airlines and really have a very nice time. Yes there are kids that make me want to get all stabby/blowey-uppy but in the big picture...its a small bump on the overall trip.
 
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