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(MSNBC)   TSA agents discover the difficulty of conventional security measures on Santa's elves. "It was like a puzzle finding all the bells on each elf. My hands were covered in elf glitter after just the first pat-down"   (msnbc.msn.com) divider line 124
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2009-12-24 09:07:15 AM
While we're on the topic of TSA asshattery, let's not forget Ron Paul and the ACLU just successfully teamed up in federal court to smack down some serious constitution-trampling on the part of everyone's favorite Feds. The law says they're limited to flight-safety concerns, not general law enforcement, which courts have also defined to be the limit of the 4th Amendment "exception" in airports. That didn't stop them from using shameful gestapo tactics, like threatening to report him to the DEA and refusing to explain his rights, on a Campaign for Liberty aide who was carrying around $5,000 in cash. Took a lawsuit (with the help of a discreet iPhone recording) to get them to actually make their official policy comply with both the statute and constitutional jurisprudence.
 
2009-12-24 09:15:22 AM
wiregeek: ratboy:
How can you stand to live like a frightened child?
I know it was a long time ago and some of us get fuzzy on the details, but none of the 9/11 hijackers were part of the little people community nor were any of them disabled children.
I really hope that post was a joke, because if it wasn't, the TERRISTS have won.
They've taken from America the things that have made it the country which we are happy to call our own.
To use the memory of the 9/11 victims to justify any outlandish insult to our freedoms is a disgusting perversion of their honor.

DIAF, douche.



Are you dense? Are you farking retreaded?

The terrorists won on 9/12/2001, when America collectively bent over and spread it's butt cheeks for the Loving Boot of Tyrrany.

punching a TSA agent in their worthless face is a moral act. So go out there and do some good!

/not practicing what I preach
/not going to jail


You farking serious? I fly pretty damn often for both business and pleasure, both domestically and internationally. If you are not a complete moron when you fly, you should experience minimal hassle passing through security.
 
2009-12-24 09:32:51 AM
Um, could we go back to the part where SpiderQueenDemon drops trou and dances in her underwear? It's Christmas and all....
 
2009-12-24 10:29:39 AM
tonguedepressor: LessO2: tonguedepressor: For anyone who would think that TSOs bust passengers balls out of some depraved pleasure, I'm here to say its a helluva a lot easier to be cordial.

Bullshiat. You know just as well as I do that there are plenty of TSAers who like to issue retaliatory secondaries to people they don't like.

Yeah, they're are some that do. I don't.

Plus, I've met some real f*ucking assholes who weren't TSO's like the guy who just charged me $450 to unclog my basement toilet.

I'd hate to think there could be assholes outside of tsa.


I don't think anyone is suggesting that the entire world supply of assholes works for the TSA. But it is a fact that if the plumber or the electrician is an asshole, you can kick him to the curb and go find someone who's more civil. If you encounter an asshole TSA agent, you're screwed. You do not have the option to decline a strip search, even if the TSA agent has absolutely no reason to believe you have anything dangerous, and has just randomly selected you based on a rotating number system or on his bad mood. In short, the TSA as it is set up happens to be a haven for powertripping assholes. That doesn't mean all of you are, but it does mean that those of you who do have severe mall-cop syndrome are nurtured and encouraged in your attitudes.

This would perhaps be tolerable if the TSA were actually making us any safer, but it isn't. Not only have countless tests by both government officials and the media gotten weapons, including guns and grenades, through the screening process, but the fact today remains that physically carrying a weapon on the plane is an unnecessary luxury if your intent is to hijack it. The fact also remains that, unlike the days prior to 9/11, if someone so much as twitches on a flight now, the rest of the passengers will dogpile him and sit on his head until the plane lands - which, incidentally, is far better and more reliable security than the TSA can ever hope to provide, no matter how many people the agency strip searches.
 
2009-12-24 11:15:20 AM
ShadowkahnCRX:

If you encounter an asshole TSA agent, you're screwed. You do not have the option to decline a strip search, even if the TSA agent has absolutely no reason to believe you have anything dangerous, and has just randomly selected you based on a rotating number system or on his bad mood.


Actually, until you are actually ARRESTED, you do have the right of refusal, but the TSA has the ability to prevent you from flying by preventing you from reaching the airplanes WHICH IS THEIR ONLY JOB AND RESPONSIBILITY. Well, that and possibly preventing you from ever flying again thanks to the Kafka-esque way the system is set up so they can 'flag' you or anyone with a name like yours, without ever providing an explanation. If they think they have a reason to actually search you, they still have to provide access to legal representation before they can try anything. ALWAYS demand a lawyer. It doesn't make you look guilty, It makes you look smart. The more of us that do it, the more the system bogs down until it chokes on its bloated ineptitude.

The fact that the public assumption is that TSA somehow has the right to sidestep Miranda, the Bill of Rights & due process is part of the problem. They are entitled by the PATRIOT act to stop you & question you, and cursorily check your person & belongings for weapons, but THAT'S IT. Their authority ends there. If they actual want to do something as invasive as a strip search, they better call the REAL cops. Or better yet, YOU call them. Airport Police & local precinct houses responsible for airports hate the TSA more than we passengers do.

Right, Tonguedepressor? Growl for me, sexy!
 
2009-12-24 11:17:59 AM
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2009-12-24 11:18:34 AM
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2009-12-24 11:22:46 AM
eggrolls: ShadowkahnCRX:

If you encounter an asshole TSA agent, you're screwed. You do not have the option to decline a strip search, even if the TSA agent has absolutely no reason to believe you have anything dangerous, and has just randomly selected you based on a rotating number system or on his bad mood.


Actually, until you are actually ARRESTED, you do have the right of refusal, but the TSA has the ability to prevent you from flying by preventing you from reaching the airplanes WHICH IS THEIR ONLY JOB AND RESPONSIBILITY. Well, that and possibly preventing you from ever flying again thanks to the Kafka-esque way the system is set up so they can 'flag' you or anyone with a name like yours, without ever providing an explanation.


Yes, so in other words, you're screwed, especially if your job requires distance travel. I didn't mean to give the impression that I thought I couldn't refuse to be searched by them, but that I couldn't refuse to be searched by them without severe and long-lasting restrictions on my ability to freely travel by air.


Well, that and the fact that some TSA goons think they're Authority Figures Who Must Be Obeyed, and are likely to get 3 or 4 of them to physically force you to be strip searched if they feel like it. . .
 
2009-12-24 11:30:41 AM
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Their not bad, They're just doing their job...
 
2009-12-24 12:10:28 PM
ShadowkahnCRX. What's up with the strip searches? Where's that coming from? Have you guys flown in the last 7 years?

TSA has nothing to do with clothing removal other than shoes, jackets and the occasional loose fitting/long outer garment.

And as for any kind of power to arrest, TSA has none.

Hell, we don't have the power to even detain you.

All elevated events quickly get handed up to the LEO's or FBI.


/Grrrrr...?
 
2009-12-24 12:13:36 PM
eggrolls, I'm trying to figure out if you're worthy of faving.

Do something cool.
 
2009-12-24 12:27:24 PM
tonguedepressor: Yeah, they're are some that do. I don't.

Plus, I've met some real f*ucking assholes who weren't TSO's like the guy who just charged me $450 to unclog my basement toilet.

I'd hate to think there could be assholes outside of tsa.


That's not an apples-to-apples comparison.

You didn't have to use the $450 plumber, there are others out there. You chose him, you paid for him, your deal.

Passengers don't have a choice in airport "security." It's the TSA or nothing.

If I were to digress an see your plumber situation in the same light, I would point out that plumbers didn't go through that stupid "ENGAGE!" program that you and the rest of the TSA did.
 
2009-12-24 01:08:28 PM
tonguedepressor: Herein lies the fundamental flaw with all the superfluous restrictions and measures that TSA take that after everything is said and done, nothing is more dangerous than a simple pair of pants, an oversized bra or any length sized skirt.

A pair of pants is dangerous? Please remove your tinfoil hat.
 
2009-12-24 01:25:20 PM
tonguedepressor You are a n1554, aren't you? Despite your negative attention demands on decent people, you are still a n1554. You will always be a dirty n1554. Listen, next time you need a toilet snaked, use your tongue. Your mouth couldn't possibly get any filthier than it already is.

People are polite because they are decent. You are not. People hate you, because you are not decent. Your employers know your attitude, you are marked, and someday, it will come down on you.

Remember also that all those "sheeple" as you call them, hate you. They hate you. Everyone who sees you every day hates you. Does that get to you? Does it give you an ulcer? Someday, the effect of all that massive hate will give you cancer. When you stand before god, you will be judged. God is not black, don't fool yourself. You will not be made white in heaven.

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2009-12-24 01:55:43 PM
WeenerGord: tonguedepressor You are a n1554, aren't you? Despite your negative attention demands on decent people, you are still a n1554. You will always be a dirty n1554. Listen, next time you need a toilet snaked, use your tongue. Your mouth couldn't possibly get any filthier than it already is.

People are polite because they are decent. You are not. People hate you, because you are not decent. Your employers know your attitude, you are marked, and someday, it will come down on you.

Remember also that all those "sheeple" as you call them, hate you. They hate you. Everyone who sees you every day hates you. Does that get to you? Does it give you an ulcer? Someday, the effect of all that massive hate will give you cancer. When you stand before god, you will be judged. God is not black, don't fool yourself. You will not be made white in heaven.


Dude, you are a sick prick.
 
2009-12-24 02:02:41 PM
WeenerGord: People are polite because they are decent. You are not. People hate you, because you are not decent. Your employers know your attitude, you are marked, and someday, it will come down on you.

Remember also that all those "sheeple" as you call them, hate you. They hate you. Everyone who sees you every day hates you. Does that get to you? Does it give you an ulcer? Someday, the effect of all that massive hate will give you cancer. When you stand before god, you will be judged. God is not black, don't fool yourself. You will not be made white in heaven.


There are plenty of people who do not like the TSA at all, passengers and crew alike. But you're getting way out of line here, dude.
 
2009-12-24 02:04:47 PM
AntiNorm: tonguedepressor: Herein lies the fundamental flaw with all the superfluous restrictions and measures that TSA take that after everything is said and done, nothing is more dangerous than a simple pair of pants, an oversized bra or any length sized skirt.

A pair of pants is dangerous? Please remove your tinfoil hat.


How could you have missed that reference? I was referring to anything and everything someone could hide on their person that could take a plane down thus making what we (TSA) do...well you can figure out the rest.

Just for the record, I'm strictly checked baggage side so I don't even deal with the traveling public face to face anymore.
 
2009-12-24 02:07:01 PM
LessO2: tonguedepressor: Yeah, they're are some that do. I don't.

Plus, I've met some real f*ucking assholes who weren't TSO's like the guy who just charged me $450 to unclog my basement toilet.

I'd hate to think there could be assholes outside of tsa.

That's not an apples-to-apples comparison.

You didn't have to use the $450 plumber, there are others out there. You chose him, you paid for him, your deal.

Passengers don't have a choice in airport "security." It's the TSA or nothing.

If I were to digress an see your plumber situation in the same light, I would point out that plumbers didn't go through that stupid "ENGAGE!" program that you and the rest of the TSA did.


That bastard charged me after he did the work and was down stairs all of 35 minutes. Its my own fault, I know, but it still doesn't excuse the price gouging.
 
2009-12-24 03:21:01 PM
tonguedepressor: That bastard charged me after he did the work and was down stairs all of 35 minutes. Its my own fault, I know, but it still doesn't excuse the price gouging.

Fight the charges.

Still don't see the similarities with the TSA, though.
 
2009-12-24 04:24:41 PM
tonguedepressor: Just for the record, I'm strictly checked baggage side so I don't even deal with the traveling public face to face anymore.


That's the one thing you've said that gives me hope the TSA is not completely incompetent. Obviously your superiors have identified your bad attitude and put you where you can't cause more trouble for them by antagonizing the passengers. That pleases me.
 
2009-12-24 05:40:17 PM
tonguedepressor: at least I'm being candid about what I do, lets hear you talk about your profession.

Retail tech support. So you know I have a high tolerance for stupidity.
 
2009-12-24 05:57:53 PM
tonguedepressor: TSA has nothing to do with clothing removal other than shoes, jackets and the occasional loose fitting/long outer garment.

Yeah- they just look at you like this:

www.proteinpower.com

No clothing removal needed!

TSA has nothing to do with clothing removal other than shoes, jackets and the occasional loose fitting/long outer garment.

And Nipple rings. Don't forget the nipple rings. (new window)
"A Texas woman who said she was forced to remove a nipple ring with pliers in order to board an airplane called Thursday for an apology by federal security agents and a civil rights investigation."
She said she heard male TSA agents snickering as she took out the ring. She was scanned again and was allowed to board even though she still was wearing a belly button ring."
"People routinely pass through security wearing wedding rings without problems..."

Oh, and "The screener may ask you to open your belt buckle as part of the process." (tsa.gov)
 
2009-12-24 07:25:53 PM
LessO2: tonguedepressor: That bastard charged me after he did the work and was down stairs all of 35 minutes. Its my own fault, I know, but it still doesn't excuse the price gouging.

Fight the charges.

Still don't see the similarities with the TSA, though.


There aren't any. Just the point that not all people who work for TSA are assholes and not all people who don't aren't assholes.

Like that Rufus 3 posts down.
 
2009-12-25 06:08:10 AM
fredklein: tonguedepressor: at least I'm being candid about what I do, lets hear you talk about your profession.

Retail tech support. So you know I have a high tolerance for stupidity.


Hey, good for you. Sounds like you're really making a difference with that in depth summary.

I guess I'm supposed to infer some reference with your thinly veiled barb, but I'm going to let it slide, it being x-mas and all.

Have a Merry.
 
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