Gunz_drawn: Whatever happened to the other buildings that were there?

That made me spit out my salsa.

luckyeddie: Freedom Tower? Really?

FFS, you have got to be joking (I don't think for a minute you are)

Considering this has been the planned name for about seven years, no, they're not.

Windows_crest: Anyone visit Chicago try this place
Link (new window)

Also Johnnies Beef Link (new window)is down the street and Gene and Jude's hotdogs Link (new window)is no more than 2 miles away

The 5$ long 'hero'?
Are they trying to say what I think they're trying to say?

earthcam :

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/groundzero/?cam=milleniumhilton1 (new window)

MonkeyAngst: luckyeddie: Freedom Tower? Really?

FFS, you have got to be joking (I don't think for a minute you are)

Considering this has been the planned name for about seven years, no, they're not.

I think my point is that they have had seven years to realise that the name is a pile of ass, just like 'Freedom Fries'.

vernonFL: The terrorists hate us for our Sweet Onion Chicken Teriyaki.

I love it when the mutton is rrreaal lean. Mmm. Yum.

Pisses me off we didn't just rebuild the twin towers. I get pissed off every time I see scenes in Men in Black, looking at the towers that aren't there anymore. I want the towers back. I want to erase the visual evidence of what those bastards did on 9/11. Every time muslims see American movies with the towers in scene, they're sitting there going, Oh yeah, we bad..

The only way to set the bar for success any lower would be with a McDonalds.

made the mistake of watching a documentary of a few individuals
who taped from new york that day. kinda like re opening an old wound.

I'm voting for a giant Moo-Ham-id holding a Cold Cut Combo as their mascot.

Artist's impression of new store:

/ q/d

Windows_crest: Windows_crest: Anyone visit Chicago try this place
Link (new window)

Also Johnnies Beef Link (new window)is down the street and Gene and Jude's hotdogs Link (new window)is no more than 2 miles away

I'm pretty sure most people visiting Chicago don't go out of there way to go to Elmwood Park and River Grove. I live in Oak Park though, so it is convenient for me.

trouzourt: FTFA:"Only five floors have been built so far."

No wonder americans are losing the war on terror, it takes you people almost 9 years to build 5 floors. its not like there was lack of funding , or lack of labor, or lack of political will.. just pure utter laziness. now you sit and watch as your freedoms are further taken away by Obamacare and his czars. ...



Not Sure If Serious.

/but if you are.. fark YOU.

That's nice, but what about a nice MLT?

//

MBK: I cannot believe we actually named it "Freedom Tower."

Maybe "we" did, but the actual owners of the property officially call the building "1 World Trade Center".

The trend of naming everything "Liberty" or "Freedom" went out of vogue with the Bush Administration.

mark12A: Every time muslims see American movies with the towers in scene, they're sitting there going, Oh yeah, we bad..

Bad like your writing, or bad like your racism?

FTFA:"The Freedom Tower, which has five floors so far, is scheduled to be finished by 2013.

Meals will be offered high in the sky for efficiency; to get food from street level, hundreds of ironworkers now use an elevator and must also climb."

It's 5 farking floors...and you have an elevator. How lazy are you??
It took 9 years and hundreds of ironworkers to build 5 floors?

trouzourt: now you sit and watch as your freedoms are further taken away by Obamacare and his czars. ...

preface: I didn't vote for Obama.

Question: If by 'Obamacare' you mean the health care reform bill, How exactly is the reform bill going to take my freedoms away?

Please show your work, be specific and bonus points will be awarded for links to claims.

/did I just feed the guy under the bridge?

I didn't know they had actually come to a consensus to do anything with that hole yet. Guess I need to eat more news.

On Wednesday, nine bright yellow containers, each bearing an American flag, were lifted to the tower's fifth floor.

Oh, for cryin' out loud...

poot_rootbeer: mark12A: Every time muslims see American movies with the towers in scene, they're sitting there going, Oh yeah, we bad..

Bad like your writing, or bad like your racism?

I think he meant "bad" like his taste in movies. He apparently watches Men in Black quite frequently.

Finger51: If by 'Obamacare' you mean the health care reform bill, How exactly is the reform bill going to take my freedoms away?

You no longer have the freedom to refuse to buy insurance, pay no penalty for doing so, and then show up at an emergency room and get medical care you can't afford, thus pushing the costs onto the rest of us.

I know, I know, such a change is socialism. Oh well.

poot: Bad like your writing, or bad like your racism?

I was not aware that muslims were a race.

Islam is not a religion. It is a cross between a political movement, a cult and an obsessive-compulsive disorder. It has been stomped down in the past, and will eventually be stomped down again. Unless we WANT to discard such Enlightenment values as democracy, tolerance, human rights, etc.

Western values and theocracy are incompatable. Sooner or later the fight will start. The next Euro-Islamic War is less than twenty years away.

mark12A: poot: Bad like your writing, or bad like your racism?

I was not aware that muslims were a race.

Islam is not a religion. It is a cross between a political movement, a cult and an obsessive-compulsive disorder. It has been stomped down in the past, and will eventually be stomped down again. Unless we WANT to discard such Enlightenment values as democracy, tolerance, human rights, etc.

Western values and theocracy are incompatable. Sooner or later the fight will start. The next Euro-Islamic War is less than twenty years away.

You are a very foolish person. Very foolish and ignorant.

Finger51: Please show your work, be specific and bonus points will be awarded for links to claims.

alright since your willing to open your eyes:

this is how your freedom is being taken away:
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/news/25651

moving on to obamacare:
page 1020:
'it shall not be in order in the senate or the house of representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection.'

is that not part of the job of the congress and the senate? to adjust the laws / create new ones that assist the citizens of this nation? how come they are being forbidden to make changes, unless there is something in there that will assure our slavery to our new masters?

think about it if a Universal Healthcare package becomes law, it will serve to usurp individual liberty by supplanting individual responsibility with one-size-fits-all governmental guidelines. Through a rat's nest of interlocking programs, your care will be determined by charts, graphs and cost-benefit calculations all developed by brilliant people from the halls of our elite universities, and if you believe our politicians...

now think about who these politicians are.. some are tax cheats, some are utter failure put in places of great power..
alright so you think im nuts by now.. but here:
linky

im also just going to leave this here as well. the way i see it, this is the first step in many to follow the foot steps of china and their one child policy.. if the men and women that are armed and trained put up with this, what is going to stop the guvernment from attacking its citizens next?
linky

Racht: Finger51: If by 'Obamacare' you mean the health care reform bill, How exactly is the reform bill going to take my freedoms away?

You no longer have the freedom to refuse to buy insurance, pay no penalty for doing so, and then show up at an emergency room and get medical care you can't afford, thus pushing the costs onto the rest of us.
I know, I know, such a change is socialism. Oh well.

I see. But it's cool for us to give money to the banks and wall street right? Or is that socialism too?

Gilliam317: dletter: Richard Schragger, who owns the Freedom Tower franchise, said he'll also offer extras no other Subway has: hot dogs, hamburgers and New York's famed pretzels.

Oh really? The Subway inside the Walmart here sells hot dogs and soft pretzels too.

Shh, Don't tell him that. He'll get all pissy and take away our freedom (tower).

They'll never take our freeeeeeeeeeeeeddddoooooooooooooooom (tower)

trouzourt:
is that not part of the job of the congress and the senate? to adjust the laws / create new ones that assist the citizens of this nation?

Um, yes. And they can change this law too (with a majority vote even!). The provision is effectively meaningless.

think about it if a Universal Healthcare package becomes law, it will serve to usurp individual liberty by supplanting individual responsibility with one-size-fits-all governmental guidelines.

Well, it's good to know that citizens of Canada, Australia, and almost every country in Europe have had their individual liberty to go bankrupt over medical costs and to be denied health care usurped. The horror!

Racht: Well, it's good to know that citizens of Canada, Australia, and almost every country in Europe have had their individual liberty to go bankrupt over medical costs and to be denied health care usurped. The horror!

isn't that called anecdotal evidence?
(2) Evidence, which may itself be true and verifiable, used to deduce a conclusion which does not follow from it, usually by generalizing from an insufficient amount of evidence. For example "my grandfather smoked like a chimney and died healthy in a car crash at the age of 99" does not disprove the proposition that "smoking markedly increases the probability of cancer and heart disease at a relatively early age". In this case, the evidence may itself be true, but does not warrant the conclusion.

but you keep grasping at that straw there.

i forgot to mention, everything is going to be juuuust fine, close your eyes, remember the good old days of when Obama was still campaigning and making promises he wasn't planning to keep .
be happy , its going to be ok.

trouzourt: Finger51: Please show your work, be specific and bonus points will be awarded for links to claims.
alright since your willing to open your eyes:
this is how your freedom is being taken away:
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/news/25651
moving on to obamacare:
page 1020:
'it shall not be in order in the senate or the house of representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection.'
is that not part of the job of the congress and the senate? to adjust the laws / create new ones that assist the citizens of this nation? how come they are being forbidden to make changes, unless there is something in there that will assure our slavery to our new masters?
think about it if a Universal Healthcare package becomes law, it will serve to usurp individual liberty by supplanting individual responsibility with one-size-fits-all governmental guidelines. Through a rat's nest of interlocking programs, your care will be determined by charts, graphs and cost-benefit calculations all developed by brilliant people from the halls of our elite universities, and if you believe our politicians...
now think about who these politicians are.. some are tax cheats, some are utter failure put in places of great power..
alright so you think im nuts by now.. but here:
linky
im also just going to leave this here as well. the way i see it, this is the first step in many to follow the foot steps of china and their one child policy.. if the men and women that are armed and trained put up with this, what is going to stop the guvernment from attacking its citizens next?
linky

>Your first link has nothing to do with he health care reform bill.

>You decided to leave off the second part of your C&P of page 1020. Here's the whole thing:
(C) LIMITATION ON CHANGES TO THIS
SUBSECTION.-It shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection.
(D) WAIVER.-This paragraph may be waived or suspended in the Senate only by the affirmative vote of three-fifths of the Members, duly chosen and sworn.
So, it appears your whargarble is unfounded as there are provisions to reverse portions pertaining to the Independent Medicare Advisory Board.

>Your third link had nothing to do with the health care bill.

>Your fourth link had nothing to do with the health care bill.

So, you did actually get something relating to my question out of your four tries but unfortunately upon further inspection it is unfounded/falseClaimspeak.

I think I did feed the troll!

trouzourt: FTFA:"Only five floors have been built so far."

No wonder americans are losing the war on terror, it takes you people almost 9 years to build 5 floors. its not like there was lack of funding , or lack of labor, or lack of political will.. just pure utter laziness. now you sit and watch as your freedoms are further taken away by Obamacare and his czars. ...

Snarky comments aside, this really is a good choice, all around. Subway has a nice variety on their menu. The bread is baked fresh. There are some nice, healthy options on the menu. Plus:

Among nine bidders, Subway was the only one that did not demand a guarantee of profit

Not too many businesses are willing to lose money on a restaurant. In fact, in this case, it seems no others were.

Finger51: >Your first link has nothing to do with he health care reform bill.

what kind of america do we live in, if you can't walk inside your own house nude?
Finger51: >Your fourth link had nothing to do with the health care bill.

when the men and women that fight for this country are forced to not have children and have abortions in case they do get pregnant, where do you think YOUR future will be?
it reminds me of this poem


Finger51: >Your third link had nothing to do with the health care bill.

I was merely pointing out that these are the corrupt officials in charge of your health care. everything relates together.

I moved to NYC a long time ago, and you can get some good sandwiches here.

But even so, I lament the fact that there is apparently no such thing as a chicken finger sub here.

I miss this place a lot.

trouzourt:
isn't that called anecdotal evidence?

I suppose. But, if you're going to claim universal health care leads to a usurping of individual rights, it's worth discussing whether the other countries that have universal health care (which is basically every other modern country) have had such a thing happen. I do not think that they have. If you feel otherwise, feel free to argue that. Otherwise, you're left to argue that this legislation eliminates rights while every other country that has passed similar legislation has not.

Isn't threadjacking a bannable offense?

DaBishop: Isn't threadjacking a bannable offense?

indeed.
Finger51 should watch out ?


i didn't actually threadjack.. i just pointed out that this whole thing took over 9 years to build 5 floors...

Chicken finger sub? Unless their photo is deceiving, it looks like breaded mechanically separated chicken meat log. Kids at school eat better than that.

Why not squirt some mayo on the chicken's arse and feet and chow down?

trouzourt:
i didn't actually threadjack.. i just pointed out that this whole thing took over 9 years to build 5 floors...

They just recently broke ground. Skyscrapers, especially one as notable as this one, generally go through years of planning. It's not like they've been doing one floor every 1.8 years.

Racht: They just recently broke ground. Skyscrapers, especially one as notable as this one, generally go through years of planning. It's not like they've been doing one floor every 1.8 years.

Racht: trouzourt:
isn't that called anecdotal evidence?

I suppose. But, if you're going to claim universal health care leads to a usurping of individual rights, it's worth discussing whether the other countries that have universal health care (which is basically every other modern country) have had such a thing happen. I do not think that they have. If you feel otherwise, feel free to argue that. Otherwise, you're left to argue that this legislation eliminates rights while every other country that has passed similar legislation has not.

The health and safety act was used in the UK to take gun ownership rights from individual citizens.

texastag:
The health and safety act was used in the UK to take gun ownership rights from individual citizens.

I wasn't aware the British were not allowed to own guns. Do you have a link as to your claim?

texastag: Racht: trouzourt:
isn't that called anecdotal evidence?

I suppose. But, if you're going to claim universal health care leads to a usurping of individual rights, it's worth discussing whether the other countries that have universal health care (which is basically every other modern country) have had such a thing happen. I do not think that they have. If you feel otherwise, feel free to argue that. Otherwise, you're left to argue that this legislation eliminates rights while every other country that has passed similar legislation has not.

The health and safety act was used in the UK to take gun ownership rights from individual citizens.

thank you , i just got approved for over time, so i can't man the ship by myself...
finally someone who understands the situation.