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(Philly.com)   Nobody can figure out why crime rates are falling despite the expectation that the recession would turn everybody into desperate thieves   (philly.com ) divider line
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2009-12-22 10:32:06 AM  
Because we live in socialism now, and that means that the government has already stolen everything that's worth stealing and given it to poor people and illegal immigrants to keep them happy and out of trouble; used death panels, internment camps, and an iron-gripped control of the liberal media to silence dissenters; and counted on the stiff-upper-lippedness, bootrappiness, and general adherence to social mores of the recently fleeced upper classes to just smile grimly in the face of such adversity and accept the new way of things.
 
2009-12-22 10:36:35 AM  
Was going to say "can't afford guns", but I see our resident ninja has the overall problem covered already.
 
2009-12-22 11:11:30 AM  
This guy must be in charge:
nymag.com
 
2009-12-22 11:11:54 AM  

FuLinHyu: Was going to say "can't afford guns",


Uhm, gun sales have been through the roof in the last year. They're finally starting to come back down to normal levels I think.
 
2009-12-22 11:11:55 AM  
Or everyone stocked up on guns beforehand...
 
2009-12-22 11:11:59 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Because we live in socialism now, and that means that the government has already stolen everything that's worth stealing and given it to poor people and illegal immigrants to keep them happy and out of trouble; used death panels, internment camps, and an iron-gripped control of the liberal media to silence dissenters; and counted on the stiff-upper-lippedness, bootrappiness, and general adherence to social mores of the recently fleeced upper classes to just smile grimly in the face of such adversity and accept the new way of things.


Also, the bootstrappers have hoarded guns and ammo, so the socialist thieves know they can't rob from them because socialists have banned guns.
 
2009-12-22 11:13:00 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Because we live in socialism now, and that means that the government has already stolen everything that's worth stealing and given it to poor people and illegal immigrants to keep them happy and out of trouble; used death panels, internment camps, and an iron-gripped control of the liberal media to silence dissenters; and counted on the stiff-upper-lippedness, bootrappiness, and general adherence to social mores of the recently fleeced upper classes to just smile grimly in the face of such adversity and accept the new way of things.


I was just going to say something about no one having anything of value worth stealing anymore because Obama took it all away. You pretty much covered it though.
 
2009-12-22 11:13:14 AM  
Plenty of people are still stealing, only now they work directly for the government, so I don't know if that's counted.
 
2009-12-22 11:13:54 AM  
There were a lot of abortions 17-19 years ago?
 
2009-12-22 11:13:57 AM  
maybe cause no one as anything worth robbing
 
2009-12-22 11:13:58 AM  
Abortion.

Now go get grandpappy some more bourbon.
 
2009-12-22 11:14:05 AM  
Hmmm,maybe we should try this:

Let's stop giving money (that is stolen from those who work) to professional welfare recipients and illegal aliens and see what happens.

It baffles me that so many people think it's acceptable to bribe the poor so they don't try to cause trouble.

They should be getting enough help to get them trained, and health insurance until their on the job insurance kicks in, and THAT'S IT.

You can only put two pennies in the jar and take three out for so long before it's empty.

\obviously there are exceptions...
 
2009-12-22 11:14:07 AM  
I think Obama has given people hope that they didn't have before.

A person with hope in the future probably doesn't commit crimes.
 
2009-12-22 11:15:00 AM  
Ammo is expensive, yo.
 
2009-12-22 11:15:35 AM  
I love that the 4 article comments espouse 4 distinct flavors of wharrgarbl.
 
2009-12-22 11:15:39 AM  
It is apparent the crime rates have dropped due to scared white folk hoarding guns and ammo making criminals think twice about breaking into houses.

Or... everyone has had to pawn all their valuables to pay their mortgages and there's nothing worth stealing in the average house anymore.

I'm thinking the latter.
 
2009-12-22 11:15:41 AM  
Also, let's no forget that in certain places like Detroit, a lot of crime doesn't even get reported.

Although I was speaking with an officer from the TPD and he said it's been quiet for a while now....no OT for him.
 
2009-12-22 11:16:43 AM  

rastjr: I think Obama has given people hope that they didn't have before.

A person with hope in the future probably doesn't commit crimes.


ahhhh, I get it. Judging from the other thread, I thought you were just stupid. Now I see you're a troll.

\troll on, I'm sure you'll get bites.
 
2009-12-22 11:17:17 AM  
No gas money for the getaway car?
 
2009-12-22 11:17:33 AM  

LarryDan43: There were a lot of abortions 17-19 years ago?


Levitt approves
 
2009-12-22 11:17:37 AM  
I guess they didn't look at Goldman-Sachs, Citigroup, and AIG then?
 
2009-12-22 11:17:44 AM  

rastjr: A person with hope in the future probably doesn't commit crimes.


Hope!
(it's what's for dinner)
 
2009-12-22 11:18:05 AM  
The crime rate is falling because thieves who steal for their families don't get caught.
 
2009-12-22 11:18:13 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Because we live in socialism now, and that means that the government has already stolen everything that's worth stealing and given it to poor people and illegal immigrants to keep them happy and out of trouble; used death panels, internment camps, and an iron-gripped control of the liberal media to silence dissenters; and counted on the stiff-upper-lippedness, bootrappiness, and general adherence to social mores of the recently fleeced upper classes to just smile grimly in the face of such adversity and accept the new way of things.


Over in 1.
 
2009-12-22 11:18:43 AM  
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Crime you say? Nah, I wouldn't want to risk leaving the comfort of my mom's basement.
 
2009-12-22 11:19:14 AM  
It's because all those thieving baby boomers are now too old for street crime and have moved on to robbing our future.
 
2009-12-22 11:20:05 AM  
The best way to keep an eye on crooks is to elect them.
 
2009-12-22 11:20:53 AM  
Maybe locking up all the stealing bastards has worked afterall. They don't charge you with theft when you steal from your celly.
 
2009-12-22 11:21:03 AM  
Well, here in Detoit, crime rates are "falling" because there are less crimes being reported and responded to because of a lack of police officers. Folks have pretty much just given up.
 
2009-12-22 11:21:56 AM  
"Detroit", even.

FTFM
 
2009-12-22 11:22:58 AM  
I don't get it, Crime goes up, liberals are soft on crime. Crime goes down, liberals are destroying our freedom.

Falling crime rates are a central goal of conservatism right? How can you be mad at that? How is that a bad thing? Can't you just be happy you're getting what you want. Why is everything an assault against conservatism. What's with the persecution complex?

You ask for cake, someone gets some for you and you punch them in the face for being a socialist commie. It's borderline insane.
 
2009-12-22 11:23:52 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Because we live in socialism now, and that means that the government has already stolen everything that's worth stealing and given it to poor people and illegal immigrants to keep them happy and out of trouble; used death panels, internment camps, and an iron-gripped control of the liberal media to silence dissenters; and counted on the stiff-upper-lippedness, bootrappiness, and general adherence to social mores of the recently fleeced upper classes to just smile grimly in the face of such adversity and accept the new way of things.


1/10
Obvious troll is obvious.
 
2009-12-22 11:24:11 AM  

el wharrrgarblo: rastjr: I think Obama has given people hope that they didn't have before.

A person with hope in the future probably doesn't commit crimes.

ahhhh, I get it. Judging from the other thread, I thought you were just stupid. Now I see you're a troll.

\troll on, I'm sure you'll get bites.


Hot troll on troll action. It's like watching a snake eat its own tail.
 
2009-12-22 11:24:23 AM  

Fizics: Plenty of people are still stealing, only now they work directly for the government banks and multi-nationals, so I don't know if that's counted.


Edited for reality.
 
2009-12-22 11:24:42 AM  
Can somebody explain the cognitive dissonance that arises from being a member of the "bootstrap" crowd who opposes the estate tax?

If it's about personal responsibility and drive as the only path to success, why don't we have a 100% estate tax to start everybody at an equal level?

/I know the answer
/Pointing out the dissonance
 
2009-12-22 11:25:04 AM  

Pro Zack: rastjr: A person with hope in the future probably doesn't commit crimes.

Hope!
(it's what's for dinner)



It sounds cliche but hope really is a powerful emotion. It gives us the drive and confidence to work to improve our future.

I don't think its importance can be over estimated.
 
2009-12-22 11:25:14 AM  
That's because the real theft is going on in the White House. Its in revelations people!

/ yeah I'm late with the government doing theft angle
 
2009-12-22 11:25:46 AM  

el wharrrgarblo: professional welfare recipients


Havent existed since 1996 since clinton ENDED WELFARE
 
2009-12-22 11:25:50 AM  

devirginizer: Pocket Ninja: Because we live in socialism now, and that means that the government has already stolen everything that's worth stealing and given it to poor people and illegal immigrants to keep them happy and out of trouble; used death panels, internment camps, and an iron-gripped control of the liberal media to silence dissenters; and counted on the stiff-upper-lippedness, bootrappiness, and general adherence to social mores of the recently fleeced upper classes to just smile grimly in the face of such adversity and accept the new way of things.

1/10
Obvious troll is obvious.


You obviously aren't familiar with the dazzling brilliance that is Pocket Ninja.
 
2009-12-22 11:26:21 AM  

devirginizer: Pocket Ninja: Because we live in socialism now, and that means that the government has already stolen everything that's worth stealing and given it to poor people and illegal immigrants to keep them happy and out of trouble; used death panels, internment camps, and an iron-gripped control of the liberal media to silence dissenters; and counted on the stiff-upper-lippedness, bootrappiness, and general adherence to social mores of the recently fleeced upper classes to just smile grimly in the face of such adversity and accept the new way of things.

1/10
Obvious troll is obvious.


media.skateboard.com.au
 
2009-12-22 11:26:36 AM  

el wharrrgarblo: rastjr: I think Obama has given people hope that they didn't have before.

A person with hope in the future probably doesn't commit crimes.

ahhhh, I get it. Judging from the other thread, I thought you were just stupid. Now I see you're a troll.

\troll on, I'm sure you'll get bites.



Ha, from the guy who threatened to beat me up over the internets.
 
2009-12-22 11:27:39 AM  

EnderWiggnz: el wharrrgarblo: professional welfare recipients

Havent existed since 1996 since clinton ENDED WELFARE



And El get burned. Ouch.
 
2009-12-22 11:28:30 AM  

LarryDan43: There were a lot of abortions 17-19 years ago?


I read that in 'Freakanomics'. That the crime rate has significantly dropped since the Roe V. Wade verdict.
 
2009-12-22 11:28:48 AM  
Because with high unemployment, everyone is home watching their property.
 
2009-12-22 11:31:11 AM  
It's because of the abortions. Read Freakonomics.
 
2009-12-22 11:31:28 AM  

devirginizer: 1/10
Obvious troll is obvious.


Perhaps lurking since 1999 was not nearly long enough.
 
2009-12-22 11:31:33 AM  

devirginizer: Pocket Ninja: Because we live in socialism now, and that means that the government has already stolen everything that's worth stealing and given it to poor people and illegal immigrants to keep them happy and out of trouble; used death panels, internment camps, and an iron-gripped control of the liberal media to silence dissenters; and counted on the stiff-upper-lippedness, bootrappiness, and general adherence to social mores of the recently fleeced upper classes to just smile grimly in the face of such adversity and accept the new way of things.

1/10
Obvious troll is obvious.


Obvious n00b is obvious.
 
2009-12-22 11:32:20 AM  
Don't look at us - Detroit is still doing its part.
 
2009-12-22 11:33:19 AM  
As someone that got his work place broken into yesterday morning I'm getting a kick....
 
2009-12-22 11:35:21 AM  
Crime IS on the increase, but it is advanced white collar/geek crime. It is advancing way too fast for your average Joe to police. We the Geeks will be your masters. Just sit back and wait to hand over your women to us.

Muh hu hah hah hah hah hahhahaha.. oh I pulled something...
 
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