devirginizer: 1/10
Obvious troll is obvious.

It's because there are so many more cops on the streets now. You can't spit on the sidewalk now without hitting a cops shoes.

Nobody has money to buy the loot.

I thought they had tied it back to reduced lead levels in the environment. Everyone was crazier. Unfortunatley for us who lived through it, or mental devoplment was/is still impaired.

murder and manslaughter dropped a surprising 10 percent for the first half of the year



But how about mayhem?

Our criminals are just lazy.

Hmmmm.... Clearly my joke wasn't obvious enough... Bodine Wilson seemed to get it though.

Snarky Acronym: It's because there are so many more cops on the streets now. You can't spit on the sidewalk now without hitting a cops shoes.

Really? There must be alot of tazing/beating/shooting going on.

Spit on my shoe by accident? Assault of an officer.

Jubeebee: el wharrrgarblo: rastjr: I think Obama has given people hope that they didn't have before.

A person with hope in the future probably doesn't commit crimes.

ahhhh, I get it. Judging from the other thread, I thought you were just stupid. Now I see you're a troll.

\troll on, I'm sure you'll get bites.

Hot troll on troll action. It's like watching a snake eat its own tail.

How am I a troll?

>> Nobody can figure out why crime rates are falling

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The same reason "nobody" could figure out why unemployment was falling during the Bush admin.

They cooked the books

How Bush Lied About the Unemployment Rate

http://www.thestreet.com/_tscana/markets/economics/10258387.html

You think an admin that lied us into a war that killed hundreds of thousands of people for no reason would have a problem with lying about the unemployment rate ?

It doesn't encourage criminal behavior; it gives criminal behavior a harmless outlet.

yeah... i'm gonna go ahead and jump on the abortion bandwagon.

i know what you're thinking and no, that's not what i mean.

el wharrrgarblo: Also, let's no forget that in certain places like Detroit, a lot of crime doesn't even get reported.

This might not be related to the current recession, but I'm sure people have been reporting a lower and lower percentage of crime over the decades. Remember back in the day when people would call the police over parties or shoplifting or burglaries or any old thing?

Most victims won't bother anymore, at least here in Ontario.

Police won't even bother coming to a B&E in a parked car if it's on private property. Only a tiny percentage of shoplifting losses are ever caught; it's not worth the liability to attempt arrests anymore. If they're broken into, a lot of people will eat the loss themselves because it would cost them more in insurance premiums if they did report it.

Or in my case, I once saw and reported an armed robbery of a pedestrian, only to have an officer show up 2 hours later to shrug his shoulders at me and give me a slip of paper.

A dip in reported crimes could be due to reduced faith in police, fear of reprisal, or an actual decrease in total crime. Just don't assume it has to be the latter.

EnderWiggnz: el wharrrgarblo: professional welfare recipients

Havent existed since 1996 since clinton ENDED WELFARE

Link (new window)


Um....dumb much?

Google much?

Troll much?

Kareeshus: el wharrrgarblo: Also, let's no forget that in certain places like Detroit, a lot of crime doesn't even get reported.

This might not be related to the current recession, but I'm sure people have been reporting a lower and lower percentage of crime over the decades. Remember back in the day when people would call the police over parties or shoplifting or burglaries or any old thing?

Most victims won't bother anymore, at least here in Ontario.

Police won't even bother coming to a B&E in a parked car if it's on private property. Only a tiny percentage of shoplifting losses are ever caught; it's not worth the liability to attempt arrests anymore. If they're broken into, a lot of people will eat the loss themselves because it would cost them more in insurance premiums if they did report it.

Or in my case, I once saw and reported an armed robbery of a pedestrian, only to have an officer show up 2 hours later to shrug his shoulders at me and give me a slip of paper.

A dip in reported crimes could be due to reduced faith in police, fear of reprisal, or an actual decrease in total crime. Just don't assume it has to be the latter.

I hate thinking about it sometimes. It's such a sad state of affairs.

el wharrrgarblo: Jubeebee: el wharrrgarblo: rastjr: I think Obama has given people hope that they didn't have before.

A person with hope in the future probably doesn't commit crimes.

ahhhh, I get it. Judging from the other thread, I thought you were just stupid. Now I see you're a troll.

\troll on, I'm sure you'll get bites.

Hot troll on troll action. It's like watching a snake eat its own tail.

How am I a troll?


A better question is Why?

Barnstormer: murder and manslaughter dropped a surprising 10 percent for the first half of the year



But how about mayhem?

What?

It's too cold to steal anything.

this global cooling is making everyone stay inside. have you ever accidently hit your hand or elbow on someone's window after you pry it open and climb in? That smarts when it is cold!

que lastima: yeah... i'm gonna go ahead and jump on the abortion bandwagon.

Aren't the seats kinda slippery?

Do you bring a vinyl sheet like you were going to a Gwar concert?

rastjr: el wharrrgarblo: Jubeebee: el wharrrgarblo: rastjr: I think Obama has given people hope that they didn't have before.

A person with hope in the future probably doesn't commit crimes.

ahhhh, I get it. Judging from the other thread, I thought you were just stupid. Now I see you're a troll.

\troll on, I'm sure you'll get bites.

Hot troll on troll action. It's like watching a snake eat its own tail.

How am I a troll?


A better question is Why?

Um, I post factual, logic based posts.

You say dumb shiat like you have....well, in every thread today.

There is a clear difference.

So you tell me, why?

Bored? Lonely? A-Hole? Sociopath? All of these?

el wharrrgarblo: Hmmm,maybe we should try this:

Let's stop giving money (that is stolen from those who work) to professional welfare recipients and illegal aliens and see what happens.

It baffles me that so many people think it's acceptable to bribe the poor so they don't try to cause trouble.

They should be getting enough help to get them trained, and health insurance until their on the job insurance kicks in, and THAT'S IT.

You can only put two pennies in the jar and take three out for so long before it's empty.

\obviously there are exceptions...

Wow, you sure are getting out your aggression on dog owners and poor people today.

el wharrrgarblo: rastjr: el wharrrgarblo: Jubeebee: el wharrrgarblo: rastjr: I think Obama has given people hope that they didn't have before.

A person with hope in the future probably doesn't commit crimes.

ahhhh, I get it. Judging from the other thread, I thought you were just stupid. Now I see you're a troll.

\troll on, I'm sure you'll get bites.

Hot troll on troll action. It's like watching a snake eat its own tail.

How am I a troll?


A better question is Why?

Um, I post factual, logic based posts.

You say dumb shiat like you have....well, in every thread today.

There is a clear difference.

So you tell me, why?

Bored? Lonely? A-Hole? Sociopath? All of these?


Yes, you are probably all those things. Good call.

No need to steal when you can bitterly cling to guns and religion.

Simple: many businesses and individuals don't report thefts anymore. Given insurance companies can be troublesome and nearly impossible to get a payout... then the fear of increased costs to remain insured... it's just not worth it unless you're really in a bind due to the theft.

Even if you do, getting police to come and file a report for theft isn't easy in some cities... police just don't have the time and prefer to do things that either are life-dependent (responding to crimes in progress, making arrests) or generating revenue (speeding tickets).

It's just finances. Cops don't have the time to deal with it. Most individuals and businesses just can't afford to report it.

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: Barnstormer: murder and manslaughter dropped a surprising 10 percent for the first half of the year



But how about mayhem?

What?

The three M's. Personally I find mayhem more satisfying. I wonder how the city of brotherly love fared after losing the World Series? Did they do a Detroit? Detroit does it even when they win, though (rare occurrence but it has happened).

LarryDan43: There were a lot of black teens had abortions 17-19 years ago?

FTFY

/SUPER OBVIOUS TROLL

el wharrrgarblo: Hmmm,maybe we should try this:

Let's stop giving money (that is stolen from those who work) to professional welfare recipients and illegal aliens and see what happens.

Wow, that's some good wharrrgarbl.

It baffles me that so many people think it's acceptable to bribe the poor so they don't try to cause trouble.

Yeah, the Romans, Napolean, Otto von Bismark. . .

Liberal idiots, the lot of them. We should follow the example of the French monarchy. They knew how to keep the poor in their place.

Glenford: This guy must be in charge:

/clap outstanding.
I am guessing he cooked the numbers to keep Carcetti off his back.

el wharrrgarblo: EnderWiggnz: el wharrrgarblo: professional welfare recipients

Havent existed since 1996 since clinton ENDED WELFARE

Link (new window)

Thanks for pointing to an article showing that there are no longer professional welfare recipients.

jbuist:
FuLinHyu: Was going to say "can't afford guns",

Uhm, gun sales have been through the roof in the last year. They're finally starting to come back down to normal levels I think.

Thank goodness. The 150-300% markup on prices due to creating a false panic that Obama would already have taken away all the guns is a bit silly. The price on Ar-15s in particular has come way down again.

I can't afford gas for my get-away vehicle and it's too damn cold to do it on foot.
Plus, those salvation army pots look awful heavy.

bird girl: el wharrrgarblo: Hmmm,maybe we should try this:

Let's stop giving money (that is stolen from those who work) to professional welfare recipients and illegal aliens and see what happens.

It baffles me that so many people think it's acceptable to bribe the poor so they don't try to cause trouble.

They should be getting enough help to get them trained, and health insurance until their on the job insurance kicks in, and THAT'S IT.

You can only put two pennies in the jar and take three out for so long before it's empty.

\obviously there are exceptions...

Wow, you sure are getting out your aggression on dog owners and poor people today.

It's just my opinion as far as the dog owners. As far as the poor people? Most of them have no one to blame but themselves.

I'm not mr. hardass. I realize life isn't fair for everyone, and I'm all in favor of helping those who will get themselves a job and what not.

But some people think that everyone has the same mentality, and we all don't. Some people don't want to work, and will gladly take advantage of every free loading program they can, and teach their children to do it too. As more and more people do it, we have to spend more on these programs, which just atracts more scum bags (and illegals).

loser0: el wharrrgarblo: EnderWiggnz: el wharrrgarblo: professional welfare recipients

Havent existed since 1996 since clinton ENDED WELFARE

Link (new window)

Thanks for pointing to an article showing that there are no longer professional welfare recipients.

Yeah, because there are no people, recieving welfar, that have BMW's, big rims, and nice stuff.

Nope, none at all. Those people have no skills at milking the system at all, and are all minor oversights by an otherwise well run government progam. Just like all other government programs. Efficient and well run and set up to help people out, and to fade away if neccessary once people get thier help.

Yup.

crime and poverty do not have the exact proportional relationship that sociologists have led us to believe. Many other factors are important. It can also be said that the relationship between crime and poverty is sometimes backward. Meaning, stupid, criminal minded people are more likely to live in poverty.

Thank God this is still a Christian nation. That is the only explanation for a drop in crime. God's plan does not include immoral atheists, at least for now. Praise Jesus, and Merry CHRISTmas.

Pocket Ninja: Because we live in socialism now, and that means that the government has already stolen everything that's worth stealing and given it to poor people and illegal immigrants to keep them happy and out of trouble; used death panels, internment camps, and an iron-gripped control of the liberal media to silence dissenters; and counted on the stiff-upper-lippedness, bootrappiness, and general adherence to social mores of the recently fleeced upper classes to just smile grimly in the face of such adversity and accept the new way of things.

Um...isn't it an insult to Socialism calling the US system "Socialism"? With that said....
Good Point? With that said...
This all started over crime being down? with that said...
boobies

A few months ago my dogs went crazy. Someone was breaking into our neighbors house. We called the cops and thieves were caught in act. They picked that house because it was simi-hidden and nobody was ever home.

With un-employment high I wonder if someone always being home acts like a deterrent.

/neighbor bought my doggies steaks.
//neighbor's insurance guy bought my doggie treats.

Crime's down 'cuz criminals are at a seminar being taught by AIG and Goldman-Sachs execs on how to really steal stuff. It lets out at 4pm today. Then crime rates will go right back up.... ?

CrankMyBlueSax: Thank God this is still a Christian nation. That is the only explanation for a drop in crime. God's plan does not include immoral atheists, at least for now. Praise Jesus, and Merry CHRISTmas.

you sound like a f@g

Let's see...if you examine crime statistics for the last 30 years, you will see that most crime has declined and that the increase in crime that we have seen is due to drugs. We know that about 800,000 people a year historically have been arrested for marijuana related crimes, often simple possession or paraphenalia. We know that several states have enacted medical marijuana laws and several other states have essentially decriminalized possession of marijuana in small amounts. So, from that we might be inclined to conclude that some of that may have had a positive impact on the crime rate?

Of course extremists in politics or the environment or drug issues will never admit a positive impact in anything because their shtick relies on constantly shrieking that everything is getting worse and this whole country is going to hell in a handbasket and we're all going to be dead or homeless in a year.

papabusche: CrankMyBlueSax: Thank God this is still a Christian nation. That is the only explanation for a drop in crime. God's plan does not include immoral atheists, at least for now. Praise Jesus, and Merry CHRISTmas.

you sound like a f@g

I forgive you.

CrankMyBlueSax: Thank God this is still a Christian nation. That is the only explanation for a drop in crime. God's plan does not include immoral atheists, at least for now. Praise Jesus, and Merry CHRISTmas.

el wharrrgarblo: As far as the poor people? Most of them have no one to blame but themselves.

That's a nearly universal white middle class misconception: that everyone has the same opportunities that you do when in fact the perception of the availability of opportunities is a complicated misture of family life, role models, economic standing, and location.

CrankMyBlueSax: papabusche: CrankMyBlueSax: Thank God this is still a Christian nation. That is the only explanation for a drop in crime. God's plan does not include immoral atheists, at least for now. Praise Jesus, and Merry CHRISTmas.

you sound like a f@g

I forgive you.

thank you!
just in time for xmas.

Wait until unemployment starts running out for folks and the veil is lifted

SpaceButler: "It's worth noting that that isn't the only causative factor they found when studying the 90s crime drop"

1. correlative
2. lead paint

ringersol: "2. lead paint"

and gas, yo.

grizzlyjohnson: el wharrrgarblo: As far as the poor people? Most of them have no one to blame but themselves.

That's a nearly universal white middle class misconception: that everyone has the same opportunities that you do when in fact the perception of the availability of opportunities is a complicated misture of family life, role models, economic standing, and location.

And all of that is predicated on skin pigment?