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(Google)   FBI investigates alleged hacking and online theft at Citigroup. Spokesman for Citigroup flatly denies that any of the $24.37, two rubber bands and a bent paper clip has been stolen from Citi's coffers   (google.com) divider line 57
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2009-12-22 09:35:18 AM  
I don't get it. And I still love the AP maps.
 
2009-12-22 09:36:21 AM  
sboyle1020: I don't get it. And I still love the AP maps.

I don't get it either.
 
2009-12-22 09:36:23 AM  
videomedeja.org
this guy
 
2009-12-22 09:39:35 AM  
img685.imageshack.us
"Any allegation that the FBI is working a case at Citigroup involving tens of millions of losses is just not true."
 
2009-12-22 09:40:27 AM  
Obama is expected on Tuesday to announce the appointment of Howard A. Schmidt, a former eBay and Microsoft executive, as the government's cyber security coordinator.

1. Appoint this guy
2. ????
3. Profit!
 
2009-12-22 09:40:55 AM  
Don't get it.
 
2009-12-22 09:43:20 AM  
"Which", not "who" subby.

If the bank's spokesman is telling the truth, the most likely explanation is that Citigroup itself is being investigated by the FBI, not a theft from the bank.
 
2009-12-22 09:44:02 AM  
What do you call someone who steals from thieves?
 
2009-12-22 09:48:19 AM  
"The Federal Gov't plan Injects $20 Billion in Fresh Capital, Guarantees $306 Billion in Toxic Assets" - first bailout.


Cyber Czar will come to the rescue and protect the taxpayers interests....

/CZAR
 
2009-12-22 09:53:01 AM  
I'm sure the crack FBI forces will solve this just like the swooped down and caught the evil dewars in the 9/11 case.

/Farking idiot Barney Fifes (IBF) couldn't catch a cold.
 
2009-12-22 09:57:20 AM  
Unavailable for comment:

www.edge.org

/hot
//line to divide on and off my lawn starts here
 
2009-12-22 09:58:55 AM  
They stole the bent paperclip??!?! Oh noes, now they won't be able to pop open stuck CD ROM drives and extract faulty Zip disks!!!

Damn you, hackers. Damn you all to Hell.
 
2009-12-22 09:59:11 AM  
mybabysmomma: sboyle1020: I don't get it. And I still love the AP maps.

I don't get it either.


Citigroup is poor. Foreclosures, bailouts and whatnot. I think. Maybe they'll go away and I won't have to pay off my student loans.

schattenteufel: What do you call someone who steals from thieves?

A thief.
 
2009-12-22 10:06:04 AM  
I work for Citi, so I'm getting a kick...

In all honesty, I would like to point out that the problem here could be that we *used* to have 3 (yes, 3!) rubber bands, however due to the TARP payback, we've downsized to 2.

/What kind of world is it when a rubber band even has to worry about losing their job?
 
2009-12-22 10:09:58 AM  
palelizard: mybabysmomma: sboyle1020: I don't get it. And I still love the AP maps.

I don't get it either.

Citigroup is poor. Foreclosures, bailouts and whatnot. I think. Maybe they'll go away and I won't have to pay off my student loans.

schattenteufel: What do you call someone who steals from thieves?

A thief.


Are you on crack? It's Super Thief.

Someone that steals from a Super Thief is a Super Super Thief.

Now you can't steal from a Super Super Thief unless two Super Super Thieves merge to become a Super Super Super Thief but they lose some of their power in the transfer.
 
2009-12-22 10:12:25 AM  
StarshipPooper: Are you on crack? It's Super Thief.

Someone that steals from a Super Thief is a Super Super Thief.

Now you can't steal from a Super Super Thief unless two Super Super Thieves merge to become a Super Super Super Thief but they lose some of their power in the transfer.


What about Masterthief?
 
2009-12-22 10:14:26 AM  
palelizard: StarshipPooper: Are you on crack? It's Super Thief.

Someone that steals from a Super Thief is a Super Super Thief.

Now you can't steal from a Super Super Thief unless two Super Super Thieves merge to become a Super Super Super Thief but they lose some of their power in the transfer.

What about Masterthief?


Master Thief is a joke, you just need a super super super thief to get really mad then they turn into a super super super super thief and they easily have over 9000% more power than the master thief.
 
2009-12-22 10:17:22 AM  
SwiftFox: "Which", not "who" subby.

If the bank's spokesman is telling the truth, the most likely explanation is that Citigroup itself is being investigated by the FBI, not a theft from the bank.


That would be the worst spokesperson ever!

It's NOT the other guys, it's US!
 
2009-12-22 10:20:23 AM  
Bob16: I'm sure the crack FBI forces will solve this just like the swooped down and caught the evil dewars in the 9/11 case.

/Farking idiot Barney Fifes (IBF) couldn't catch a cold.


Well, thirty years of filling every federal job with a graduate of Liberty or Oral Roberts universities will do that to ya'.
 
2009-12-22 10:25:12 AM  
Did Deutche Bank ever get their rubber band back?
 
2009-12-22 10:29:09 AM  
snocone: Did Deutche Bank ever get their rubber band back?

Our rubber band was returned from AIG after it was bailed out.
 
2009-12-22 10:33:48 AM  
Bob16: I'm sure the crack FBI forces will solve this just like the swooped down and caught the evil dewars in the 9/11 case.

/Farking idiot Barney Fifes (IBF) couldn't catch a cold.


I object to your words, sir. Dewar's is not evil.
 
2009-12-22 10:42:28 AM  
Citigroup hacked themselves to steal money from their people!!
 
2009-12-22 10:46:58 AM  
I for one am shocked that there are criminals at Citibank.
 
2009-12-22 10:50:41 AM  
Raedon: Citigroup hacked themselves to steal money from their people!!

plus ill-gotten booty is insured. file a claim - win, win!
 
2009-12-22 10:53:06 AM  
Will Citi insist they need to jack the rates on their always-paid-on-time-previously-15%-now-29.99%-interest cards higher? Because, really...they NEED to do that to taxpayers, in order to pay back taxpayer dollars they received from the gov... oh, no, I've gone cross-eyed.
 
2009-12-22 10:58:34 AM  
StarshipPooper: palelizard: StarshipPooper: Are you on crack? It's Super Thief.

Someone that steals from a Super Thief is a Super Super Thief.

Now you can't steal from a Super Super Thief unless two Super Super Thieves merge to become a Super Super Super Thief but they lose some of their power in the transfer.

What about Masterthief?

Master Thief is a joke, you just need a super super super thief to get really mad then they turn into a super super super super thief and they easily have over 9000% more power than the master thief.


Unless it's Masterthief Petty Officer, then you get a final solution to the problem...
 
2009-12-22 10:59:13 AM  
bobug: Will Citi insist they need to jack the rates on their always-paid-on-time-previously-15%-now-29.99%-interest cards higher?

As someone making a shiatload of money on peer-to-peer lending to folks whose credit card rates are getting jacked sky-high, I'm really getting a kick out the banks pulling this shiat.
 
2009-12-22 11:09:46 AM  
Sound like time fo' anothuh bailout.
 
2009-12-22 11:18:30 AM  
When I was watching 60 Minutes a couple of weeks ago and the feds mentioned a US bank was hit and tens of millions of dollars were stolen, but that they needed to stay anonymous to prevent a scandal I thought to myself: what large bank has that singular a combination of sloppy management and cover-your-ass mentality? The answer then was obvious: Citibank.

Glad to see I wasn't disappointed.
 
2009-12-22 11:20:11 AM  
The FBI is investigating a hacker attack on Citigroup Inc. that led to the theft of tens of millions of dollars,

yeah. "hacker attack". riiiiight.
 
2009-12-22 11:28:37 AM  
Weaver95: The FBI is investigating a hacker attack on Citigroup Inc. that led to the theft of tens of millions of dollars,

yeah. "hacker attack". riiiiight.


99% of "hacking" is social engineering to get someone to give a password over the phone...

/anything that hurts c is fine with me. c can go suck a stadium full o' dicks.
 
2009-12-22 11:29:29 AM  
The grammar in this headline hurts my brain.
 
2009-12-22 11:39:42 AM  
Ball of Confusion: Weaver95: The FBI is investigating a hacker attack on Citigroup Inc. that led to the theft of tens of millions of dollars,

yeah. "hacker attack". riiiiight.

99% of "hacking" is social engineering to get someone to give a password over the phone...

/anything that hurts c is fine with me. c can go suck a stadium full o' dicks.


I wouldn't put it past citigroup to steal the money for themselves, then blame it on 'hackers'.
 
2009-12-22 11:48:12 AM  
Ball of Confusion:
yeah. "hacker attack". riiiiight.

99% of "hacking" is social engineering to get someone to give a password over the phone...




Not these guys. These Russian hacking crews use custom built toolkits that can enumerate your network, discover points of interest, pull down hashed password files and get them access to your HSM (their real target) within a space of days. They're gone without much of a trace and you're left wondering what the fark happened.
Same crew that cleaned out RBS last summer. These aren't script kiddies and delinquents who want to play in your sandbox, they're real criminals who are deadly serious about ripping off large financial institutions.

/Security Dork
 
2009-12-22 11:52:30 AM  
Treetop1000: StarshipPooper:
Unless it's Masterthief Petty Officer, then you get a final solution to the problem...

Two uberthieves could take down an MPO cause, you know a guy drops his guard when a pair of ubies is involved.

/waiting for the strike joke
 
2009-12-22 12:35:16 PM  
Dr_Grinch: Ball of Confusion:
yeah. "hacker attack". riiiiight.

99% of "hacking" is social engineering to get someone to give a password over the phone...

Not these guys. These Russian hacking crews use custom built toolkits that can enumerate your network, discover points of interest, pull down hashed password files and get them access to your HSM (their real target) within a space of days. They're gone without much of a trace and you're left wondering what the fark happened.
Same crew that cleaned out RBS last summer. These aren't script kiddies and delinquents who want to play in your sandbox, they're real criminals who are deadly serious about ripping off large financial institutions.

/Security Dork


Do you have anymore information on this? It sounds interesting.
 
2009-12-22 12:48:22 PM  
On Repeat: Dr_Grinch: Ball of Confusion:
yeah. "hacker attack". riiiiight.

99% of "hacking" is social engineering to get someone to give a password over the phone...

Not these guys. These Russian hacking crews use custom built toolkits that can enumerate your network, discover points of interest, pull down hashed password files and get them access to your HSM (their real target) within a space of days. They're gone without much of a trace and you're left wondering what the fark happened.
Same crew that cleaned out RBS last summer. These aren't script kiddies and delinquents who want to play in your sandbox, they're real criminals who are deadly serious about ripping off large financial institutions.

/Security Dork

Do you have anymore information on this? It sounds interesting.


Here you go:
Link (Wired Article Pops in new window)http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/04/pins/

That article doesn't discuss the methods of network intrusion these guys use, but it's mostly modified SQL injection attacks to find weaknesses on the perimeter, and then a blend of tools and savvy to get further into the network.
 
2009-12-22 01:08:40 PM  
Dr_Grinch: That article doesn't discuss the methods of network intrusion these guys use, but it's mostly modified SQL injection attacks to find weaknesses on the perimeter, and then a blend of tools and savvy to get further into the network.

Didn't most of them get caught (pops) though?
 
2009-12-22 01:12:21 PM  
Bucky Katt: I for one am shocked that there are criminals at Citibank.

WIN!

Hackers stealing tens of millions from Shziti, is like stealing the hub caps off Bonny and Clyde's get away car.
 
2009-12-22 01:22:19 PM  
FTA: President Barack Obama calling [cyber crime] one of the "most serious economic and national security challenges we face as a nation."

Awesome. Judging by Afghanistan, we can look forward to him doing something about it in 20-28 months.
 
2009-12-22 01:48:48 PM  
But you're money's safe behind a four digit PIN.


/HAHAHA!
 
2009-12-22 01:49:23 PM  
*your

/before grammar nazis
 
2009-12-22 01:57:58 PM  
JasonX: Obama is expected on Tuesday to announce the appointment of Howard A. Schmidt, a former eBay and Microsoft executive, as the government's cyber security coordinator.

1. Appoint this guy
2. ????
3. Profit!


Do we REALLY want someone who has dealt with anything Micro$oft to handle security?
 
2009-12-22 02:21:47 PM  
dude_man: JasonX: Obama is expected on Tuesday to announce the appointment of Howard A. Schmidt, a former eBay and Microsoft executive, as the government's cyber security coordinator.

1. Appoint this guy
2. ????
3. Profit!

Do we REALLY want someone who has dealt with anything Micro$oft to handle security?


he comes A+++++++ recommended though
 
2009-12-22 02:25:56 PM  
Aren't all paper clips bent?

*shrugs*
 
2009-12-22 02:37:49 PM  
Weaver95: Ball of Confusion: Weaver95: The FBI is investigating a hacker attack on Citigroup Inc. that led to the theft of tens of millions of dollars,

yeah. "hacker attack". riiiiight.

99% of "hacking" is social engineering to get someone to give a password over the phone...

/anything that hurts c is fine with me. c can go suck a stadium full o' dicks.

I wouldn't put it past citigroup to steal the money for themselves, then blame it on 'hackers'.


When money goes missing, it is always an outside job in some arenas

next will be the king of ugandastan and his estate
 
2009-12-22 02:47:38 PM  
rogerklotz: this guy

SWEET! Tascam PortaStudio! I used one of those for must have been over a decade. The tape machine finally gave in so I've given it to my son and he uses it as a mixer. Wish it still worked so I could teach him the joys of ping ponging multi-tracks on a cassette tape.

Man that was one beautifully laid out piece of gear. So simple to use.
 
2009-12-22 03:34:09 PM  
You know your company is farked when you can't even afford the corporate blackmail anymore.
 
2009-12-22 03:54:23 PM  
Subby, I find that hard to believe. Citibank never owned a paperclip - it was hyper leveraged through office supply derivatives held in China.
 
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