I just read the article. It only discusses a 10-year, $50 million contract. Where does $10 million come from?

MaxxLarge: Jesus. It would have to be SOMETHING more than both. Who would CHOOSE to live in Cleveland over Seattle?!?

/come and look at both of our buildings

Never been in Cleveland, but Seattle ain't exactly what I'd call my cup of tea either. Plenty of rain and pretentiousness!

That being said, good on him. If I was the only coach to ever take Seattle to a Superbowl and they were dicking me around while another team was making a very appealing offer, I'd go for it too. Hope Holmegren success in Cleveland.

SharkTrager: I just read the article. It only discusses a 10-year, $50 million contract. Where does $10 million come from?

The BiYear is the accepted unit of measure for retired GM contracts.

That article used way too many words to say that the author thinks Holmgren was the best shot the Hawks had for getting back to the SB and they pooched the punt, or some other football metaphor.

MaxxLarge: Jesus. It would have to be SOMETHING more than both. Who would CHOOSE to live in Cleveland over Seattle?!?

/come and look at both of our buildings


I don't know, it's probably just as easy to spend your time having cybersex with pedophiles there as anywhere.

InferiousX: Never been in Cleveland, but Seattle ain't exactly what I'd call my cup of tea either. Plenty of rain and pretentiousness

Know how I know you've never been to Seattle?

CavalierEternal: In reality, everyone secretly wants to go to the Browns just for the possibilities. I mean, whoever's responsible for the Browns finally winning a Super Bowl will become an idol in Ohio, probably immortalized with some kind of statue. At the same time, the team and city have become so used to losing that, were Holmgren to fail as a GM, he'd simply be forgotten as soon as someone else was hired. If you think about it, being the GM for the Browns, there's no real way you can lose.

You say this like being an idol in Ohio would mean something to someone.

MaxxLarge: /come and look at both of our buildings

Cleveland looks like Newark

MaxxLarge:

Who would CHOOSE to live in Cleveland over Seattle?!?

Someone who doesn't want to pay over-inflated west coast property prices ?

/ HAS lived in both
// Seattle/Tacoma was nice before all the damn Californians ruined it :(

MaxxLarge
Who would CHOOSE to live in Cleveland over Seattle?!?

didn't you know that if you reside in Milwaukee, you relinquish any and all rights to make fun of another city?

The Bestest: MaxxLarge: /come and look at both of our buildings

Cleveland looks like Newark Mogodishu.FTFY

I would choose to live in Cleveland before Seattle any day of the week personally.

Seattle wasn't that awesome when I lived out there. Too many smug pricks. A lot of really nice scenery, weather, and plenty to do, but the people drove me craaazy.

Holmgren was my high school football coach (Oak Grove, SJ, 81-84)

I would put a snarky comment here about how he was all about money or something, but I honestly never knew him that well, he was just Coach Holmgren.

I think it would interesting if they hired Marty Morhinwheg as an assistant - since he was our starting QB at the time.

I think the thing is that Holmgren wanted it in his contract that he could fire the coach and replace him with himself if he wanted to. Not many teams that aren't desperate would want that situation: every week--is Holmgren coming back?

kukukupo: I would choose to live in Cleveland before Seattle any day of the week personally.

Seattle wasn't that awesome when I lived out there. Too many smug pricks. A lot of really nice scenery, weather, and plenty to do, but the people drove me craaazy.

Well if you weren't so damn inferior, we wouldn't be so smug about it.

CorruptHardware: InferiousX: Never been in Cleveland, but Seattle ain't exactly what I'd call my cup of tea either. Plenty of rain and pretentiousness

Know how I know you've never been to Seattle?

Really? It doesn't rain a lot there? You must live in super magic Seattle that no one else has ever experienced.

Once was there for a week and the sun was out for maybe an hour in that entire time. No thanks.

Holmgren took the Browns job. Yay!

However, lookie: Link (pops). The URL? "report_mike_holmgren_not_comin". DOES NOT COMPUTE

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Yay! Cleveland Browns thread. This should be as exciting as quilting.

Obvious troll is obvious.

The Dreaded Rear Admiral: Holmgren took the Browns job. Yay!

However, lookie: Link (pops). The URL? "report_mike_holmgren_not_comin". DOES NOT COMPUTE

That's pretty funny. Qualifies for ironic tag?

InferiousX: CorruptHardware: InferiousX: Never been in Cleveland, but Seattle ain't exactly what I'd call my cup of tea either. Plenty of rain and pretentiousness

Know how I know you've never been to Seattle?

Really? It doesn't rain a lot there? You must live in super magic Seattle that no one else has ever experienced.

Seattle annual rainfall: 36 inches
Cleveland annual rainfall: 36.6 inches
New York annual rainfall: 45 inches
Miami annual rainfall: 60 inches

Try again chief.

CorruptHardware: InferiousX: CorruptHardware: InferiousX: Never been in Cleveland, but Seattle ain't exactly what I'd call my cup of tea either. Plenty of rain and pretentiousness

Know how I know you've never been to Seattle?

Really? It doesn't rain a lot there? You must live in super magic Seattle that no one else has ever experienced.

Seattle annual rainfall: 36 inches
Cleveland annual rainfall: 36.6 inches
New York annual rainfall: 45 inches
Miami annual rainfall: 60 inches

Try again chief.

yeah, uh . . . the rain tends to fall all at once in places like cleveland. seattle/sf it drizzles constantly

IAmRight:

still beats living anywhere in Ohio



Hey, at least Cleveland's NBA team makes it to the Finals once in awhile :)

konigsforst: CorruptHardware: InferiousX: CorruptHardware: InferiousX: Never been in Cleveland, but Seattle ain't exactly what I'd call my cup of tea either. Plenty of rain and pretentiousness

Know how I know you've never been to Seattle?

Really? It doesn't rain a lot there? You must live in super magic Seattle that no one else has ever experienced.

Seattle annual rainfall: 36 inches
Cleveland annual rainfall: 36.6 inches
New York annual rainfall: 45 inches
Miami annual rainfall: 60 inches

Try again chief.

yeah, uh . . . the rain tends to fall all at once in places like cleveland. seattle/sf it drizzles constantly

In the winter. But maybe you like freezing to death.

Grew up in SF. Spent 4 years in Cleveland (The Velvet Tango Room, baby). Cleveland and it's people are really decent folk. The difference between Cleveland and Seattle for me is this: Seattle (San Francisco's pretentious low class sibling whore to the north) has it really good and yet can still manage to be pretty farking miserable. When you are between two of the greatest cities on earth, San Francisco and Vancouver, there's naught left to do but pout and where flannels. The rain doesn't make one bit of difference to me....It's your attitude. It generally sucks.

Cleveland on the other hand has been beat for 40 years.....steel industry, Lake Erie on fire, car industry, manufacturing.... You can see it in their eyes. And yet, they are as welcoming and hopeful as ever. Generally pretty dismissive of criticism, and I was always grateful for the copious amounts of hospitality and pleasantness. I love Cleveland, and I love Ohio. It was a great place to grow and experience. I'm back in San Francisco now....But I will never forget you, Cleveland.