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(Yahoo)   Computer hacker asks for a reduced sentence because he as Asperger Syndrome, but he'll have to convince the judge that a computer expert could be socially awkward, lack communication skills and be physically uncoordinated   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 326
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2009-12-17 01:05:23 PM  
His fark membership number is 2.
 
2009-12-17 01:19:18 PM  
So, when it means this arse gets to avoid being fully culpable for his actions people are happy to say that spectrum disorders mean you're not a fully autonomous individual....
 
2009-12-17 01:29:31 PM  
So theft and fraud are now autism spectrum disorders? I'm feeling a little shy myself.
 
2009-12-17 01:35:13 PM  
Yes, but he's only that way because he's surrounded by such mouth-breathing sheeple. Mouth breathing breeder sheeple with crotchfruit. Mouth breathing breeder sheeple with crotchfruit who believe in invisible sky fairies. Mouth breathing breeder sheeple with crotchfruit who believe in invisibible sky fairies and like things that are popular. Mouth breathing breeder sheeple with crotchfruit who believe in invisibible sky fairies and like things that are popular and make fun of real gamers. Mouth breathing breeder sheeple with crotchfruit who believe in invisibible sky fairies and like things that are popular and make fun of real gamers and whose stupid television tastes are probably why Firefly got canceled. And so on.
 
2009-12-17 01:52:06 PM  
Sybarite: So theft and fraud are now autism spectrum disorders?

Help me remember...isn't "autism" that hokum quackery lazy parents cooked up? Y'know, the ones who don't want to invest the time and effort to raise their crotch-droppings properly, so they pull a "disorder" out of their ass and wave it around in order to absolve themselves of the responsibility of the consequences for that? Or anytime they want to conveniently explain why I'M somehow the asshole because their kids are screaming at 100 decibels and smearing shiat on the walls, and I have the unmitigated audacity to object to them "expressing themselves"?

Sorry, it's just tough to keep all of these recent "medical discoveries" straight. Especially when they're all so obviously motivated by the abdication of accountability.
 
2009-12-17 02:03:00 PM  
Pocket Ninja: Yes, but he's only that way because he's surrounded by such mouth-breathing sheeple. Mouth breathing breeder sheeple with crotchfruit. Mouth breathing breeder sheeple with crotchfruit who believe in invisible sky fairies. Mouth breathing breeder sheeple with crotchfruit who believe in invisibible sky fairies and like things that are popular. Mouth breathing breeder sheeple with crotchfruit who believe in invisibible sky fairies and like things that are popular and make fun of real gamers. Mouth breathing breeder sheeple with crotchfruit who believe in invisibible sky fairies and like things that are popular and make fun of real gamers and whose stupid television tastes are probably why Firefly got canceled. And so on.

I hate those farkers.
 
2009-12-17 02:11:50 PM  
Physically uncoordinated? You try playing WoW, masturbating, IM-ing, and drinking a Mountain Dew at the same time.
 
2009-12-17 02:14:44 PM  
monkeyman3875: Physically uncoordinated? You try playing WoW, masturbating, IM-ing, and drinking a Mountain Dew at the same time.


To be fair, they're generally among the top masturbaters in the entire world...they can basically do that in their sleep.
 
2009-12-17 02:15:44 PM  
MaxxLarge: isn't "autism" that hokum quackery lazy parents cooked up?

I thought the same thing until I had a child with autism. Autism is real, but too many parents think their precious snowflake has it or is in the 'spectrum.' This takes time and resources away from parents and children that really have a problem.
Yeah, I think most autism cases are hot-air, but don't totally throw it out. It does exist, but probably not at the levels that currently reported.
Aspergers syndrome is the new hot medical disorder, and naturally people claim to have it to excuse their bad behavior and their bad decisions.

/FWIW my kid did have all her vaccinations, and I don't think the vaccinations 'cause' autism.
 
rmz
2009-12-17 02:21:56 PM  
monkeyman3875: Physically uncoordinated? You try playing WoW, masturbating, IM-ing, and drinking a Mountain Dew at the same time.

Add "posting on Fark" and you've just described my typical Saturday night.
 
2009-12-17 02:25:00 PM  
stealing credit card info from members - jail term.

arbitrarily raising rates and changing fee structure to cheat credit card customers out of their money - entirely legal!

*sigh*
 
rmz
2009-12-17 02:27:40 PM  
skammie: MaxxLarge: isn't "autism" that hokum quackery lazy parents cooked up?

Aspergers syndrome is the new hot medical disorder, and naturally people claim to have it to excuse their bad behavior and their bad decisions.


There does seem to be a suspiciously high number of self-diagnosed "Aspies" on the Internet, this much is true. I imagine a lot of them like the idea of a label they can slap on themselves to make them different, and also conveniently explains their social awkwardness and interest in math.
 
2009-12-17 02:31:04 PM  
rmz: skammie: MaxxLarge: isn't "autism" that hokum quackery lazy parents cooked up?

Aspergers syndrome is the new hot medical disorder, and naturally people claim to have it to excuse their bad behavior and their bad decisions.

There does seem to be a suspiciously high number of self-diagnosed "Aspies" on the Internet, this much is true. I imagine a lot of them like the idea of a label they can slap on themselves to make them different, and also conveniently explains their social awkwardness and interest in math.


Conversely, the internet is an extremely viable medium for conversation and social interaction for those who actually are "Aspies," so the numbers would be skewed a bit.
 
2009-12-17 02:36:14 PM  
rmz: skammie: MaxxLarge: isn't "autism" that hokum quackery lazy parents cooked up?

Aspergers syndrome is the new hot medical disorder, and naturally people claim to have it to excuse their bad behavior and their bad decisions.

There does seem to be a suspiciously high number of self-diagnosed "Aspies" on the Internet, this much is true. I imagine a lot of them like the idea of a label they can slap on themselves to make them different, and also conveniently explains their social awkwardness and interest in math.


Is that in any way related to how the distribution of left-handed and ambidextrous people on the internet are exceptionally higher than the population as a whole?
 
2009-12-17 02:40:38 PM  
Kyosuke: There does seem to be a suspiciously high number of self-diagnosed "Aspies" on the Internet, this much is true.

And that's really all I'm saying, despite the balls-out troll.

Make no mistake: I have no doubt Autism and Asperger's both exist...I just think they've become trashcan, blanket diagnoses. It's easier to just go with the trendy disorder du jour and throw a bunch of pills at a kid than it is to invest the effort to really treat them. It's a quick fix for doctors, and the parents then get to wave around an asinine badge of victimhood that absolves them of the responsibility of having to deal with an unruly brat. Hell, the kids don't even lose out any more. Autism is so over-diagnosed, there's not even a stigma these days.

I'm glad I don't have kids.
 
2009-12-17 02:44:22 PM  
MaxxLarge: Kyosuke: There does seem to be a suspiciously high number of self-diagnosed "Aspies" on the Internet, this much is true.

And that's really all I'm saying, despite the balls-out troll.


However, I didn't way that. rmz did.
 
2009-12-17 02:51:24 PM  
MaxxLarge: Autism and Asperger's

Well, there's a big, big difference between a shy nerd and a child that is completely unable to interact socially.

Asperger's is a handy way for parents to excuse their children's behavior, for pharmaceutical companies to market mild stimulants, and for pediatricians to generate office visits.

Real spectrum disorders you can't miss, and as skammie says, the wannabe spectrum people are using resources needed by the really afflicted.
 
2009-12-17 02:53:29 PM  
MaxxLarge: I just think they've become trashcan, blanket diagnoses

We're pretty much on the same page here. Well, I agree with everything you've said.
You've been marked as a favorite for a reason. Limericks! I mean rational contributions to Fark.
 
2009-12-17 02:54:04 PM  
pandabear: Well, there's a big, big difference between a shy nerd and a child that is completely unable to interact socially.

Considering that Autism is a spectrum disorder, you cannot just point at the guy not beating his head against the wall and say 'That guy's not autistic, he must be faking it.'

There are people who fake all kinds of mental ailments. Just not as many as you think.
 
2009-12-17 02:55:49 PM  
Oh lord this has turned into an autism thread.
 
2009-12-17 02:57:17 PM  
monkeyman3875: Oh lord this has turned into an autism thread.

Imagine that, since it's a subject of the headline and the article.
 
2009-12-17 02:58:23 PM  
Kyosuke: There are people who fake all kinds of mental ailments. Just not as many as you think.

Right, but have you actually looked at the Asperger's checklist? I freaking have and everybody I know has it!

I was asked by the doc what I did for a living when we were trying to get my youngest diagnosed. When I answered that I worked with computers (HMIs) and worked with schematics all the time she looked at me and said, "uh oh."
I asked, "why the 'uh oh'?"
"Because most children with autism or Asperger's work in technical fields."

Tell me that isn't a generalization or what.
 
2009-12-17 03:18:48 PM  
monkeyman3875: Oh lord this has turned into an autism thread.

That's because autistic kids rock.

/Runs away fast.
 
2009-12-17 03:19:00 PM  
skammie: Kyosuke: There are people who fake all kinds of mental ailments. Just not as many as you think.

Right, but have you actually looked at the Asperger's checklist? I freaking have and everybody I know has it!


Really? You think in pictures rather than words? You unknowingly speak in a stilted monotone? You find it difficult to maintain close relationships because they ultimately mean nothing to you?

Interesting.
 
2009-12-17 03:37:33 PM  
Sweet that will be my defense at any trial.
 
2009-12-17 03:38:15 PM  
Missing letter in headline trifecta in play?
 
2009-12-17 03:38:54 PM  
mattharvest: So, when it means this arse gets to avoid being fully culpable for his actions people are happy to say that spectrum disorders mean you're not a fully autonomous individual....

You sound socially awkward fat
 
2009-12-17 03:39:18 PM  
Kyosuke: skammie: Kyosuke: There are people who fake all kinds of mental ailments. Just not as many as you think.

Right, but have you actually looked at the Asperger's checklist? I freaking have and everybody I know has it!

Really? You think in pictures rather than words? You unknowingly speak in a stilted monotone? You find it difficult to maintain close relationships because they ultimately mean nothing to you?

Interesting.


Are you trying to say you don't? I thought that was normal for humans!?
 
2009-12-17 03:39:59 PM  
If the people he hacked had any sense they would employ him.
 
2009-12-17 03:40:01 PM  
Good. A thread where Farkers can imitate fathers who abuse their kids. There aren't enough of those.
 
2009-12-17 03:40:32 PM  
I bet he's too fat to get drunk, too.
 
2009-12-17 03:40:37 PM  
First thing that came to mind

Jesus Christ, Marty. If that's what you think, I'm disappointed in you. There never was an Aaron, counselor. Come on, I thought you had it figured there at the end. The way you put me on the stand like that, that was brilliant. The whole "act-like-a-man" thing. I knew what you wanted. It was like we were dancing, Marty! We did it, man. We farking did it. We're a great team, you and me. You think I could've done this without you? You're feeling angry because you started to care about old Aaron, but... love hurts, Marty. What can I say? I'm just kidding, bud! I didn't mean to hurt your feelings! What else was I supposed to do? You'll thank me down the road, 'cause this'll toughen you up, Martin Vail! You hear me? That's a promise!
 
2009-12-17 03:41:05 PM  
15 to 25 years in prison.
He's gonna get socialized from behind....
 
2009-12-17 03:41:23 PM  
isn't having ass-burger syndrome punishment enough?
 
2009-12-17 03:41:37 PM  
Kyosuke: pandabear: Well, there's a big, big difference between a shy nerd and a child that is completely unable to interact socially.

Considering that Autism is a spectrum disorder, you cannot just point at the guy not beating his head against the wall and say 'That guy's not autistic, he must be faking it.'

There are people who fake all kinds of mental ailments. Just not as many as you think.


At the same time, people self-diagnose and take away from people with real disorders. I get really pissed off when I tell someone I have OCD, and their response is "I have a little bit too". Sure, we all have farking habits, but I'm sure yours didn't cause you to wash your hand so much they were bleeding constantly.
 
2009-12-17 03:41:53 PM  
monkeyman3875: Oh lord this has turned into an autism thread.


Were you expecting this to become a "Hot Redhead" thread?

// Of course, I wouldn't mind at all if this suddenly became a "Hot Redhead" thread.
 
2009-12-17 03:43:07 PM  
I have Aspergers. And the guy's a dick. Having a social dysfunction is no excuse for breaking the law. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

/well, that applies to everyone except Robert Blake, of course...
 
2009-12-17 03:43:15 PM  
Asperger's syndrome?

When they guy is in prison and having his butt pounded into hamburger meat, he'll have to deal with ass burger syndrome for real.
 
2009-12-17 03:43:16 PM  
t2.gstatic.com
t1.gstatic.com

ass-burgers anyone?
 
2009-12-17 03:43:41 PM  
clee4654.googlepages.com

pounding in the arse fed. prison.
 
2009-12-17 03:43:42 PM  
ASSBURGER
http://tinyurl.com/ydlatjl
(copy and paste)
 
2009-12-17 03:43:44 PM  
Prosecution should show pictures of Chloe O'Brien from Season 2 of 24 and Jenny McCarthy.

Then the guy would fry.
 
2009-12-17 03:44:29 PM  
i.telegraph.co.uk

Not impressed
 
2009-12-17 03:44:38 PM  
Suely it's time to cue the "My kid has Aspergers disease and its a serious documented illness and its real and its hell and you dont know what youre talking about you insensitive uneducated asshole" posters about now.
 
2009-12-17 03:44:54 PM  
gorgor makes me wish I didn't have a job so I could see the things he posts and be disgusted.
 
2009-12-17 03:45:04 PM  
skammie: Kyosuke: There are people who fake all kinds of mental ailments. Just not as many as you think.

Right, but have you actually looked at the Asperger's checklist? I freaking have and everybody I know has it!

I was asked by the doc what I did for a living when we were trying to get my youngest diagnosed. When I answered that I worked with computers (HMIs) and worked with schematics all the time she looked at me and said, "uh oh."
I asked, "why the 'uh oh'?"
"Because most children with autism or Asperger's work in technical fields."

Tell me that isn't a generalization or what.


I can't help thinking that getting an Asperger's diagnosis will be viewed by people a century from now as (mostly) quackery; much like how we view Phrenology today...
 
2009-12-17 03:45:17 PM  
mattharvest: So, when it means this arse gets to avoid being fully culpable for his actions people are happy to say that spectrum disorders mean you're not a fully autonomous individual....

You're foolin' yourself! We're living in a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working class...
 
2009-12-17 03:45:20 PM  
skammie: MaxxLarge: isn't "autism" that hokum quackery lazy parents cooked up?

I thought the same thing until I had a child with autism. Autism is real, but too many parents think their precious snowflake has it or is in the 'spectrum.' This takes time and resources away from parents and children that really have a problem.
Yeah, I think most autism cases are hot-air, but don't totally throw it out. It does exist, but probably not at the levels that currently reported.
Aspergers syndrome is the new hot medical disorder, and naturally people claim to have it to excuse their bad behavior and their bad decisions.

/FWIW my kid did have all her vaccinations, and I don't think the vaccinations 'cause' autism.


have a friend of mine with a child who is highly autistic (high functioning? -- not sure if that's what it's called) who will probably never learn to speak.

this kid gets what he needs in terms of special education, etc. it's not for a lack of effort on the part of the parent (and grandparents, since the wife left and wanted nothing to do with her child), but some kids are just unlucky.
 
2009-12-17 03:45:21 PM  
The reason there are so many more kids with autism these days is because they used to lump autism cases in with the retards and throw 'em in a home.
 
2009-12-17 03:46:41 PM  
MaxxLarge: Sybarite: So theft and fraud are now autism spectrum disorders?

Help me remember...isn't "autism" that hokum quackery lazy parents cooked up? Y'know, the ones who don't want to invest the time and effort to raise their crotch-droppings properly, so they pull a "disorder" out of their ass and wave it around in order to absolve themselves of the responsibility of the consequences for that? Or anytime they want to conveniently explain why I'M somehow the asshole because their kids are screaming at 100 decibels and smearing shiat on the walls, and I have the unmitigated audacity to object to them "expressing themselves"?

Sorry, it's just tough to keep all of these recent "medical discoveries" straight. Especially when they're all so obviously motivated by the abdication of accountability.


Um, no.
 
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