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(Washington Post)   Mexican naval forces kill drug cartel chief in apartment complex, which must have had a really, really big pool   (washingtonpost.com ) divider line
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2009-12-17 08:55:48 AM  
I guess the Navy is one of the few Mexican government entities left that isn't totally corrupted?

/Send in the Postal Service!
 
2009-12-17 10:02:37 AM  
When I heard this story on the radio I was expecting somewhere at least, you know, within the general vicinity of a body of water.
 
2009-12-17 10:15:32 AM  
Can we now sing "In the Navy"?
 
2009-12-17 10:17:06 AM  
To be fair, there was a boat drink nearby equipped with the RIM-116
 
2009-12-17 10:17:15 AM  
Why wouldn't Mexico have a Navy? They are surrounded by oceans.
 
2009-12-17 10:17:50 AM  
And I always thought the term "Brown Navy" referred to Riverine Forces, who knew they actually had a Brown Navy...
 
2009-12-17 10:18:13 AM  

secretagentwang: I guess the Navy is one of the few Mexican government entities left that isn't totally corrupted?

/Send in the Postal Service!


Ya, that's my thought.
 
2009-12-17 10:18:19 AM  
FTA:
Navy forces, who analysts say have stronger intelligence and are less prone to corruption, have increasingly joined federal police and army troops in Calderon's drug war.

Makes sense.
 
2009-12-17 10:19:35 AM  
The drug war in Mexico has killed three times as many people as the Iraq and Afghan war put together. There is a war on our front steps that is killing so many, we need to cut off their supply of cash and send in our own military to help out the Mexican government.
 
2009-12-17 10:19:48 AM  
No different than US Navy SEALS operating in Afghanistan and Iraq.
 
2009-12-17 10:20:04 AM  
oh noez! ramon ayala
 
2009-12-17 10:21:46 AM  

vernonFL: Why wouldn't Mexico have a Navy? They are surrounded by oceans.


i729.photobucket.com


An ocean and a gulf technically. Neither of which were anywhere near the guy when he was shot.
 
2009-12-17 10:22:30 AM  
www.rupalpinto.com
 
2009-12-17 10:23:45 AM  
Just big enough for him to do his swan dive into it.
3.bp.blogspot.com
/and his little friend
 
2009-12-17 10:25:39 AM  

jaytkay: No different than US Navy SEALS operating in Afghanistan and Iraq.


Probably a closer analogy would be the Marines. While the article doesn't explicitly say, it sounds like it was the work of the Mexican Naval Infantry, the rough equivalent of the United States Marine Corps.
 
2009-12-17 10:27:14 AM  
Way off topic. Could someone please tell me what FTFY means? I can't come up with it. RTFA, FTFA I figured out, but FTFY escapes me.
 
2009-12-17 10:28:48 AM  
Strangely relevant:

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2009-12-17 10:29:19 AM  

zeldapin: Way off topic. Could someone please tell me what FTFY means? I can't come up with it. RTFA, FTFA I figured out, but butt FTFY escapes me.


Fixed that for you.
 
2009-12-17 10:29:41 AM  

zeldapin: Way off topic. Could someone please tell me what FTFY means? I can't come up with it. RTFA, FTFA I figured out, but FTFY escapes me.


Forward Twenty Five Yards. Football terminology.
 
2009-12-17 10:29:51 AM  

zeldapin: Way off topic. Could someone please tell me what FTFY means? I can't come up with it. RTFA, FTFA I figured out, but FTFY fixed that for you escapes me.

 
2009-12-17 10:30:07 AM  

zeldapin: Way off topic. Could someone please tell me what FTFY means? I can't come up with it. RTFA, FTFA I figured out I figured out "RTFA" and "FTFA", but FTFY escapes me.


I Fixed This For You.
 
2009-12-17 10:30:19 AM  

Thisbymaster: The drug war in Mexico has killed three times as many people as the Iraq and Afghan war put together. There is a war on our front steps that is killing so many, we need to cut off their supply of cash and send in our own military to help out the Mexican government.


Or we could legalize and regulate drugs.
 
2009-12-17 10:31:50 AM  
That'll mess things up for about 48 hours, then it will be back to business.
 
2009-12-17 10:31:51 AM  

rabidferret: FTA:
Navy forces, who analysts say have stronger intelligence and are less prone to corruption, have increasingly joined federal police and army troops in Calderon's drug war.

Makes sense.


It's interesting how naval forces in general tend to be somewhat conservative and less corruptable. Ranging from the US Navy siding en masse with the Union in the Civil War (compared to the army's split) to the German Navy refusing to purge Jews under Hitler. All I can think of is that in the Navy if you don't do your job it is a long swim home, so everyone has to cooperate and do their duty.
 
2009-12-17 10:32:05 AM  
Now I feel dumb. Shoulda figured that out! Thanks all.
 
2009-12-17 10:32:18 AM  
Aye Mami!!!!!!
 
2009-12-17 10:32:37 AM  
There's one thing I've learned in my 28 years on the planet: If a drug lord is killed there's absolutely no way anyone could ever take his place.
 
2009-12-17 10:33:14 AM  

SirEattonHogg: Aye Mami!!!!!!


They took killing kittens literally.
 
2009-12-17 10:33:50 AM  

mofomisfit: There's one thing I've learned in my 28 years on the planet: If a drug lord is killed there's absolutely no way anyone could ever take his place.


Terrorist leaders are the same way. Once one is killed, that's the end of the ball game.
 
2009-12-17 10:33:51 AM  

secretagentwang: I guess the Navy is one of the few Mexican government entities left that isn't totally corrupted?

/Send in the Postal Service!


The army ain't corrupted, I'll give them that. They are just blindly loyal to the president.

The weird thing is that Morelos (the state), isn't anywhere near a body of water. Still, great on the Naval Infantry.

Oh, and because I can:

farm3.static.flickr.com

www.fav-club.com

/Weird thing
//When the confrontation was in the "breaking news" shtick yesterday
///There was an assload of police cars running all over... Yeah, these things tend to shake up stuff when they happen
 
2009-12-17 10:34:09 AM  
Mexico has a navy? Seriously? For what? Sailing their population over here?
 
2009-12-17 10:34:20 AM  

mofomisfit: There's one thing I've learned in my 28 years on the planet: If a drug lord is killed there's absolutely no way anyone could ever take his place.


Until Tom Clancy rights another book.
 
2009-12-17 10:34:45 AM  

zeldapin: Way off topic. Could someone please tell me what FTFY means? I can't come up with it. RTFA, FTFA I figured out, but FTFY escapes me.


Welcome to the Intarwebs.
 
2009-12-17 10:34:45 AM  
Kind of a hollow victory. The drug dealers will shatter into smaller groups and sooner or later another boss will come to power.

They need to just legalize at least the less dangerous stuff. F*ck the USA and our idiotic drug war machine.
 
2009-12-17 10:35:06 AM  

ha-ha-guy:
It's interesting how naval forces in general tend to be somewhat conservative and less corruptable. Ranging from the US Navy siding en masse with the Union in the Civil War (compared to the army's split) to the German Navy refusing to purge Jews under Hitler. All I can think of is that in the Navy if you don't do your job it is a long swim home, so everyone has to cooperate and do their duty.


I meant it makes sense that the cartels would put much more effort at courting agents in the Mexican Army compared to the Navy, as the great majority of their trafficking goes overland.
 
2009-12-17 10:37:31 AM  

vernonFL: Thisbymaster: The drug war in Mexico has killed three times as many people as the Iraq and Afghan war put together. There is a war on our front steps that is killing so many, we need to cut off their supply of cash and send in our own military to help out the Mexican government.

Or we could legalize and regulate drugs.


I thought Mexico had already legalized everything....at least that's what my dad told me. And he real smrt ya know.
 
2009-12-17 10:38:33 AM  

FishInABowl: Mexico has a navy? Seriously? For what? Sailing their population over here?


5/10. Not even worth the effort you took to write.

/Work harder!
 
2009-12-17 10:38:35 AM  

ha-ha-guy: rabidferret: FTA:
Navy forces, who analysts say have stronger intelligence and are less prone to corruption, have increasingly joined federal police and army troops in Calderon's drug war.

Makes sense.

It's interesting how naval forces in general tend to be somewhat conservative and less corruptable. Ranging from the US Navy siding en masse with the Union in the Civil War (compared to the army's split) to the German Navy refusing to purge Jews under Hitler. All I can think of is that in the Navy if you don't do your job it is a long swim home, so everyone has to cooperate and do their duty.


That, and people on a ship need to depend on one another to work, 'cuz if something goes wrong, you all die. So the worst of the slackers, douchebags, and morons tend to be weeded out quickly left on the beach. Not that Navy guys are perfect, or all of 'em are good, but just sayin', less likely to be causin' problems as, you've noted, it's a loooong swim home.

/Would've joined the navy if not for the juvenile diabetes crap.
//I love ships, they are so pretty.
 
2009-12-17 10:38:42 AM  

StarshipPooper: mofomisfit: There's one thing I've learned in my 28 years on the planet: If a drug lord is killed there's absolutely no way anyone could ever take his place.

Until Tom Clancy rights another book.


Oddly accurate since I don't believe he writes books anymore, just gives someone else the right to splash his name across the cover.
 
2009-12-17 10:40:05 AM  

secretagentwang: I guess the Navy is one of the few Mexican government entities left that isn't totally corrupted?

/Send in the Postal Service!


Don't forget to support them with elments of the Library Police's SWAT team
 
2009-12-17 10:40:59 AM  

LaraAmber: StarshipPooper: mofomisfit: There's one thing I've learned in my 28 years on the planet: If a drug lord is killed there's absolutely no way anyone could ever take his place.

Until Tom Clancy rights another book.

Oddly accurate since I don't believe he writes books anymore, just gives someone else the right to splash his name across the cover.


Which is pretty clever if you think about it: he does no work, but still gets paid, anyway.
 
2009-12-17 10:41:05 AM  

Poppyale: vernonFL: Thisbymaster: The drug war in Mexico has killed three times as many people as the Iraq and Afghan war put together. There is a war on our front steps that is killing so many, we need to cut off their supply of cash and send in our own military to help out the Mexican government.

Or we could legalize and regulate drugs.

I thought Mexico had already legalized everything....at least that's what my dad told me. And he real smrt ya know.


Marijuana, cocacine, and a few others; in laughably small dozes (new window).
 
2009-12-17 10:41:19 AM  

Poppyale: vernonFL: Thisbymaster: The drug war in Mexico has killed three times as many people as the Iraq and Afghan war put together. There is a war on our front steps that is killing so many, we need to cut off their supply of cash and send in our own military to help out the Mexican government.

Or we could legalize and regulate drugs.

I thought Mexico had already legalized everything....at least that's what my dad told me. And he real smrt ya know.


I think Mexico did decriminalize small amounts of marijuana, cocaine and heroin. Which makes sense. But still, decriminalized drugs still create a black market because they're still illegal to sell. Plus the huge black market is here where no state has decriminalized anything but marijuana, and not every state has even done that.
 
2009-12-17 10:41:56 AM  
Loved the headline... +1
 
2009-12-17 10:46:05 AM  

General Vayo: ha-ha-guy: rabidferret: FTA:
Navy forces, who analysts say have stronger intelligence and are less prone to corruption, have increasingly joined federal police and army troops in Calderon's drug war.

Makes sense.

It's interesting how naval forces in general tend to be somewhat conservative and less corruptable. Ranging from the US Navy siding en masse with the Union in the Civil War (compared to the army's split) to the German Navy refusing to purge Jews under Hitler. All I can think of is that in the Navy if you don't do your job it is a long swim home, so everyone has to cooperate and do their duty.

That, and people on a ship need to depend on one another to work, 'cuz if something goes wrong, you all die. So the worst of the slackers, douchebags, and morons tend to be weeded out quickly left on the beach. Not that Navy guys are perfect, or all of 'em are good, but just sayin', less likely to be causin' problems as, you've noted, it's a loooong swim home.

/Would've joined the navy if not for the juvenile diabetes crap.
//I love ships, they are so pretty.


It kind of works the same in any service. When I was in the military we had a little unofficial list of people who would be killed via friendly fire prior to going in to combat. There are certian assholes you just don't want walk behind you with a loaded weapon, explosives and possibly even an antitank missile. As such the plan was either a friendly fire accident or lump the farkups into one squad for easy disposal and send them right at a machine gun nest.

Also an officer's value as an officer is inversely related to the number of Tom Clancy books he owns. If he shows up with a giant box of harcover military thriller novels its time to find yourself a new unit.
 
2009-12-17 10:47:07 AM  

mofomisfit: There's one thing I've learned in my 28 years on the planet: If a drug lord is killed there's absolutely no way anyone could ever take his place.


Well yes and no. Yes some guy WILL fill the void, but maybe he'll get the hint to keep a lower and less violent profile than the last guy.

It worked with Carlos Medellin and Pablo Escobar. Columbia hasn't solved their drug problem, but the days of drug lords having supreme Court judges and presidential candidates killed in broad daylight are at least behind them
 
2009-12-17 10:47:10 AM  

Thisbymaster: The drug war in Mexico has killed three times as many people as the Iraq and Afghan war put together. There is a war on our front steps that is killing so many, we need to cut off their supply of cash and send in our own military to help out the Mexican government.


You are an idiot.. They can't keep drugs out of PRISON where they look up your butthole on the way in.. How in the world are they going to keep them out of America? Ain't gonna happen. The US is the biggest consumer of illegal drugs in the world. The only way to win this war is to beat them on the supply side.. Legalize, Educated, Tax to Farking Hell.. You could kill every drug lord in mexico and as long as idiots in the US are still willing to spend billions a year on dope there will ALWAYS be someone to step up and take their place.
 
2009-12-17 10:50:30 AM  
Did they have badges?
 
2009-12-17 10:51:35 AM  

Magorn: mofomisfit: There's one thing I've learned in my 28 years on the planet: If a drug lord is killed there's absolutely no way anyone could ever take his place.

Well yes and no. Yes some guy WILL fill the void, but maybe he'll get the hint to keep a lower and less violent profile than the last guy.

It worked with Carlos Medellin and Pablo Escobar. Columbia hasn't solved their drug problem, but the days of drug lords having supreme Court judges and presidential candidates killed in broad daylight are at least behind them


That is a good point, but at the same time, the last I checked it wasn't too hard to find cocaine.
 
2009-12-17 10:51:35 AM  
Sure... let's legalize and sanction murder.
 
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