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(Reuters)   The reviews are in: James Cameron's Avatar is an overblown mess. Just kidding, critics are calling it "jaw-dropping" and "mind-blowing"   (reuters.com) divider line 366
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2009-12-12 03:07:55 PM  
wolvernova: Sort of, yeah. That's what Cameron is good at, making the good guys lose. That's why his movies are so draining

Is that sarcasm? In what movie of his did the bad guy lose?
 
2009-12-12 03:10:07 PM  
Mugato: wolvernova: Sort of, yeah. That's what Cameron is good at, making the good guys lose. That's why his movies are so draining

Is that sarcasm? In what movie of his did the bad guy lose?


I meant good guy lose. I'm doing 4 things over here, sorry.
 
2009-12-12 03:24:08 PM  
1lastcall: The English Major:
I've had one or two 'conversation' with you here on Fark, and I can say that you have always had an opinion of your own but not to the point where you have been close-minded to the opinions of others. You, sir, are a class act.

/Read Grapes of Wrath yet? *Sigh* I can wait until you're done with your movies. :)


I too respect your opinion, and your recommendation I read Grapes of Wrath paid off. It was well worth it. Then I went on to read East of Eden, but it was a pain finding a new, non Oprah-tainted copy.
I also bought Travels with Charley.
 
2009-12-12 03:30:09 PM  
Mugato: I meant good guy lose. I'm doing 4 things over here, sorry.

Kyle Reese dies in Terminator.
Lots and lots of people die in Aliens.
Lindsey drowns in Abyss (that she is revived is beside my point, that was a very emotionally draining scene)
Arnold dies in Terminator 2
Jack and 1000 people die in Titanic
It sounds like a lot of awful shiat is going to happen to the thundercats in Avatar.

No it wasn't sarcasm. Aside from True Lies, his movies are pretty dark.
 
2009-12-12 03:51:29 PM  
wolvernova: No it wasn't sarcasm. Aside from True Lies, his movies are pretty dark

I suppose I see your point. A lot of good guys go down in his films but the protagonist always survives. Unless you count the Terminator in T2 or Leo in Titanic as protagonists.
 
2009-12-12 03:59:44 PM  
Mugato: I suppose I see your point. A lot of good guys go down in his films but the protagonist always survives. Unless you count the Terminator in T2 or Leo in Titanic as protagonists.

If Leo had survived in Titanic, that film wouldn't have grossed half what it did. That made the theater-goers sob like none other. I'm expecting a lot of people to die in Avatar, and not just the "bad guys".
 
2009-12-12 04:02:21 PM  
DamnYankees: TheWizard: Wanna know the worst trailer ever? Terminator Salvation. Nothing like completely spoiling the plot before you get people to pay for tickets.

Hm. Worst trailer ever? Hard to say. I don't think T4's trailer was that bad. It had good music. A bad trailer for me is one that makes a movie look boring.


Donnie Darko has the worst trailer ever. I mean, not everyone agrees it's a good film (I think it's good but horribly overhyped), but the trailer makes it look like the most by the book slasher movie ever. I'm kind of amazed that it manages to do that, because there's no part of it that is a slasher movie in any way, shape, or form.
 
2009-12-12 04:11:57 PM  
wolvernova: If Leo had survived in Titanic, that film wouldn't have grossed half what it did

"Could I just have a piece of that wood you're lying on? No? okay, cool I'll just be over her dying. Your rich evil fiance was lamer than the one in Caddyshack 2, BTW."
 
2009-12-12 04:40:18 PM  
I saw this movie the first time, when it was called Delgo.

Delgo vs. Avatar (new window)


Also, it suffers from the cronic blight of fantasy worlds - the entire known world is only about 100 square miles. Shirley this valuable ore exists on other parts of Furryland that are uninhabited. Go mine them instead, dummies!
 
2009-12-12 04:49:15 PM  
syrynxx: I saw this movie the first time, when it was called Delgo.

I think that makes twelve unique comparisons I've seen now. Get over it - it's an old story and they'll never stop putting it into new vehicles.
 
2009-12-12 05:27:43 PM  
syrynxx: I saw this movie the first time, when it was called Delgo.

Delgo vs. Avatar (new window)


Also, it suffers from the cronic blight of fantasy worlds - the entire known world is only about 100 square miles. Shirley this valuable ore exists on other parts of Furryland that are uninhabited. Go mine them instead, dummies!


hmmmm, like say our planet? I mean there are tons of places to mine gold, silver, diamonds etc etc where no one really "lives". That doesn't stop us from killing each other. Not trying to argue or anything just saying that's a pretty weak argument. Anyway I have some awesome pot and I'm going to the IMAX in a few hours to check out the movie so I could care less.
 
2009-12-12 05:42:37 PM  
The English Major: 1lastcall: The English Major:
I've had one or two 'conversation' with you here on Fark, and I can say that you have always had an opinion of your own but not to the point where you have been close-minded to the opinions of others. You, sir, are a class act.

/Read Grapes of Wrath yet? *Sigh* I can wait until you're done with your movies. :)

I too respect your opinion, and your recommendation I read Grapes of Wrath paid off. It was well worth it. Then I went on to read East of Eden, but it was a pain finding a new, non Oprah-tainted copy.
I also bought Travels with Charley.


I lol'd for real on that one. I wanted to read "The Story of Edgar Sawtelle" and couldn't find a copy without the Oprah Book Club mark on it. Now I know it doesn't matter what people think of you, but I honestly couldn't bring myself to carry the dang thing up to the line. I was sincerely embarrassed. (I realize that doesn't say great things about my ego, but it's the truth.)
So, so glad you enjoyed Grapes. I would more than happily take a suggestion from you for a good read over the winter break...

/Sheesh. It's getting smarmy in here. Ok, love fest over. Resume what you were doing, citizens.
 
2009-12-12 05:51:08 PM  
1lastcall: The English Major: 1lastcall: The English Major:
I've had one or two 'conversation' with you here on Fark, and I can say that you have always had an opinion of your own but not to the point where you have been close-minded to the opinions of others. You, sir, are a class act.

/Read Grapes of Wrath yet? *Sigh* I can wait until you're done with your movies. :)

I too respect your opinion, and your recommendation I read Grapes of Wrath paid off. It was well worth it. Then I went on to read East of Eden, but it was a pain finding a new, non Oprah-tainted copy.
I also bought Travels with Charley.

I lol'd for real on that one. I wanted to read "The Story of Edgar Sawtelle" and couldn't find a copy without the Oprah Book Club mark on it. Now I know it doesn't matter what people think of you, but I honestly couldn't bring myself to carry the dang thing up to the line. I was sincerely embarrassed. (I realize that doesn't say great things about my ego, but it's the truth.)
So, so glad you enjoyed Grapes. I would more than happily take a suggestion from you for a good read over the winter break...

/Sheesh. It's getting smarmy in here. Ok, love fest over. Resume what you were doing, citizens.


I have a copy without the Oprah Sticker; there was a review in EW about it before it went all desperate housewife, and I picked it up. It was good.

I'm gonna recommend Aryn Kyle's The God of Animals. I read it a couple of years ago and was pleasantly surprised.
Other than that, Marilynne Robinson's Gilead is another great literary read.

But the best book I read this year was far and away Jonathan Tropper's This Is where I Leave You. It was the first thing of his I'd ever read; I went back and picked up the rest of his works, but that is still my favorite.
 
2009-12-12 07:20:39 PM  
I am sincerely excited. Always looking for new authors. On my way to get This is Where I Leave You.. read the synopsis and I'm stoked. Will read the other two after that. Thanks so much, EM. Will let you know in some random thread how it went.
(BTW, I read Edgar ... borrowed my sister's copy. I thought it was fantastic, until the end. I'm all for a less than conventional ending, but ... really? I don't want to say more, because I don't want to ruin the ending for someone else, but ... really?)
 
2009-12-13 08:58:16 AM  
schattenteufel: I've always considered Cameron over-hyped as a director; his movies are usually all style, no substance.

He's sort of an even mix of the modern Spielberg's "pandering to the crowd with pretty scenery & watered-down stories," plus Bay's "explosions & special effects solve everything" mentalities.

Avatar's trailers make it look like a long string of video game cut-scenes, tethered with a predictable plot. I'm not sure if I want to see it, though I'm interested in the 3D technology used in the theaters.


i.telegraph.co.uk

Would like a word with you.
 
2009-12-13 05:10:48 PM  
Mugato: "Could I just have a piece of that wood you're lying on? No? okay, cool I'll just be over her dying. Your rich evil fiance was lamer than the one in Caddyshack 2, BTW."

LOL
 
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