It kind of spoils the story when you realize it was not an un-attainable post-war interpretation of the American Dream that brought down Willy Loman.

It was just plain old Alzheimer.

Everyone knows his heart was just two sizes to small.

Every Who down in Whoville liked Christmas a lot, but the Grinch, who lived just north of Whoville - did not. The Grinch hated Christmas - the whole Christmas season. Now, please don't ask why; no one quite knows the reason. It could be, perhaps, that his shoes were too tight. Or it could be that his head wasn't screwed on just right. But I think that the most likely reason of all may have been that his heart was two sizes too small

Screw you psychologists.

Fano: Every Who down in Whoville liked Christmas a lot, but the Grinch, who lived just north of Whoville - did not. The Grinch hated Christmas - the whole Christmas season. Now, please don't ask why; no one quite knows the reason. It could be, perhaps, that his shoes were too tight. Or it could be that his head wasn't screwed on just right. But I think that the most likely reason of all may have been that his heart was two sizes too small

Screw you psychologists.

Maybe he worked in retail.

Maybe his heart was full of unwashed socks, or his soul was full of gunk

Or maybe his brain is full of spiders, or he has garlic in his soul

/wouldn't touch him with a 39 and a half foot pole

This is why I hate the new Grinch movie. They try to give him motives. The point is that he is EVIL.

KajakPro: This is why I hate the new Grinch movie. They try to give him motives. The point is that he is EVIL.

I've never gotten that he was evil out of the book or the animation (haven't seen the new movie). He was envious and spiteful and lonely. I've always thought that was the point.

Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus. He's the positive form of the Jungian senex archetype, and it's vital that whenever your animus manifests in this guise, you embrace it as a valuable expression of the masculine part of your personality, but also discern it to be purely a mental construct and not a true individual that exists outside of yourself in reality. If you can do this, you will progress to higher levels of self-understanding and unfettered creative thought. If you cannot, then we'll have to up your dosage of antipsychotics and turn the fire hose on you again.

/trust me, I used to be the store psychiatrist for Macy's

RemyDuron: KajakPro: This is why I hate the new Grinch movie. They try to give him motives. The point is that he is EVIL.

I've never gotten that he was evil out of the book or the animation (haven't seen the new movie). He was envious and spiteful and lonely. I've always thought that was the point.

Well, he wasn't envious and spiteful and lonely for such mundane reasons as that crappy movie... unless you take a Hannah Arendt reading of the film.

/hated the new willy wonka for similar reasons

RemyDuron: KajakPro: This is why I hate the new Grinch movie. They try to give him motives. The point is that he is EVIL.

I've never gotten that he was evil out of the book or the animation (haven't seen the new movie). He was envious and spiteful and lonely. I've always thought that was the point.

But he just was lonely/spiteful, whatever, it wasn't because he had a hard childhood.

Please, no PhD wrote that.

/they got their grad students to do it
//then took credit
///get it right
////four slashies

Apparently some people read too much into what they see

I know why The Grinch hates Christmas...

He and his mom were decorating the tree, waiting for his dad to come home from work. A couple hours went by. Dad wasn't home, so his mom called the Whoville office. No answer.

Christmas Day came and went, and still nothing. So the police began a search... Four or five days went by. Neither one of them could eat or sleep. Everything started falling apart.

It was snowing outside. The house was freezing, so The Grinch went to try to light up the fire. That's when he noticed the smell. The Whoville firemen came and broke through the chimney top and he and his mom were expecting them to pull out a dead cat or a bird.

And instead they pulled out his father. He was dressed in a Santa Claus suit. He'd been climbing down the chimney... his arms loaded with zoozit and kazay. He was gonna surprise them. He slipped and broke his neck. He died instantly.

And that's how The Grinch found out there was no Santa Claus.

I read this one on IMDB today

"The word "humbug" is misunderstood by many people, which is a pity since the word provides a key insight into Scrooge's hatred of Christmas. The word "humbug" describes deceitful efforts to fool people by pretending to a fake loftiness or false sincerity. So when Scrooge calls Christmas a humbug, he is claiming that people only pretend to charity and kindness in an scoundrel effort to delude him, each other, and themselves. In Scrooge's eyes, he is the one man honest enough to admit that no one really cares about anyone else, so for him, every wish for a Merry Christmas is one more deceitful effort to fool him and take advantage of him. This is a man who has turned to profit because he honestly believes everyone else will someday betray him or abandon him the moment he trusts them."

KajakPro: RemyDuron: KajakPro: This is why I hate the new Grinch movie. They try to give him motives. The point is that he is EVIL.

I've never gotten that he was evil out of the book or the animation (haven't seen the new movie). He was envious and spiteful and lonely. I've always thought that was the point.

But he just was lonely/spiteful, whatever, it wasn't because he had a hard childhood.

True, like I said I haven't seen the new movie. However, calling the Grinch evil is wrong I think. He's like many children's books villains, thoughtless and self centered and angry but deep down good (otherwise why would he be moved to sympathy?).

I'm trying to think of outright evil characters in Seuss books, but I don't think there are any. Even the Once-ler sort of reforms himself, although too late.

/Damn, the Lorax is depressing even after all these years.

RemyDuron: I'm trying to think of outright evil characters in Seuss books, but I don't think there are any. Even the Once-ler sort of reforms himself, although too late.


what about those remorseless bastards who hopped on pop?

His dog is there no concern for dog?

And now for the next fictional character to by psychologically analyzed by a PhD with too much free time, Jesus Christ!

/*runs*

Fine: Grinch is easy. Analyze a few Cormac McCarthy characters.

Notabunny: Apparently some people read too much into what they see

I never thought I'd be turned on by toothbrushes. Thanks for that, I guess...

He brought everything back, all the food for the feast
Then he got arrested, which he didn't like in the least

He got 50 for grand theft, thrown right into the slammer
Today he ____________ (can't think of anything good to rhyme)

/give me a break, i'm doing this right before work
//i don't celebrate the holidays till i put in my Grinch (1966 VERSION) dvd

Notabunny: Apparently some people read too much into what they see

I have to go.....fap.......now?

Staring too long or too closely at anything will make you go cross-eyed.

What about T-Bag from Prison Break?

Fano: Every Who down in Whoville liked Christmas a lot, but the Grinch, who lived just north of Whoville - did not. The Grinch hated Christmas - the whole Christmas season. Now, please don't ask why; no one quite knows the reason. It could be, perhaps, that his shoes were too tight. Or it could be that his head wasn't screwed on just right. But I think that the most likely reason of all may have been that his heart was two sizes too small

Screw you psychologists.

My four-year-old son has that part memorized. I think I've read that story to him about 300,000 times since he was two

wwffan7385: He brought everything back, all the food for the feast
Then he got arrested, which he didn't like in the least

He got 50 for grand theft, thrown right into the slammer
Today he ____________ (can't think of anything good to rhyme)

/give me a break, i'm doing this right before work
//i don't celebrate the holidays till i put in my Grinch (1966 VERSION) dvd

He got 50 for grand theft, thrown right into the slammer
Today he's on parole, time served and good behavior

He got 50 for grand theft, thrown right into the slammer
Now another part of him, has been stretched ten times larger (anal rape joke? I dunno, I'm tryin)

He got 50 for grand theft, thrown right into the slammer
Today he's adapted, his life has changed, living his life, locked in a cage :(

/I watched James and the Giant Peach again for the first time in forever last night. That movie was so inaccurate and impossible. What the hell were they thinking when they wrote it? What the hell kind of sheeple would take it seriously?
//SHEEPLE
///Would really like to see a movie done of the back story of the giant mechanical shark
//That was totally doing what it does just to stay alive before they brutally murdered it
/
//
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/

Another fine UVa tradition. Don't mess with it.

flyingmonkeysreign: I watched James and the Giant Peach again for the first time in forever last night. That movie was so inaccurate and impossible.

How so?

This has always been my favourite:

Pathology in the Hundred Acre Wood:
a neurodevelopmental perspective on A.A. Milne (new window)

Subby, I think your "discovery" that some PhDs have 'too much time on their hands" is a bit premature. Putting important or interesting scientific or medical information into a context they can relate to is a very handy method of teaching dry subjects to those who would otherwise not have any idea.

Seeing as how the doctor in the article described my own symptoms of depression in exact detail, I could see the merit of an article like this.

Although I already knew I was depressed, if someone didn't realize they suffered from depression (and sometimes it's hard to come to such a conclusion, and if they were not the type to read boring medical articles or go see a doctor, they may stumble across an article based on entertainment like this & learn something about themselves that may help them.

Secular Satanist: flyingmonkeysreign: I watched James and the Giant Peach again for the first time in forever last night. That movie was so inaccurate and impossible.

How so?


Peaches don't generally grow that big.

Can't help but think this trivializes and demeans anyone who was actually diagnosed with depression. Is mental health just a game to these assholes?

Secular Satanist: flyingmonkeysreign: I watched James and the Giant Peach again for the first time in forever last night. That movie was so inaccurate and impossible.

How so?

Well first off they sang more than they talked. That's completely unrealistic. Second, the whole notion of the picket fence becoming a walk way around the peach is rather doubtful. Seagulls carrying the peach? Hah. And retrieving the compass from the pirate ship? How were they able to breath under the water? Why did they not freeze? And no explanation at all for how they were able to move under water like they were moving through air. How was a spider able to eat peach and not die? She was a self confessed carnivore after all. Finally, the two aunts driving across the Atlantic? Plain silliness if you ask me.

/My sarcasm, I hope you see it
//Such a great movie

EdgeRunner: Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus. He's the positive form of the Jungian senex archetype, and it's vital that whenever your animus manifests in this guise, you embrace it as a valuable expression of the masculine part of your personality, but also discern it to be purely a mental construct and not a true individual that exists outside of yourself in reality. If you can do this, you will progress to higher levels of self-understanding and unfettered creative thought. If you cannot, then we'll have to up your dosage of antipsychotics and turn the fire hose on you again.



I salute you; this was my biggest smile of the day so far--me being totally fed up with deconstruction and such. Sometimes a Grinch is just a Grinch.

PhD with too much time on their hands

Came for Doctor Who references. Leaving dissapointed

Voodoo_Stu: Maybe he worked in retail.

That will ruin Christmas for you, especially when you look in the back of the store mid-December and see all the Valentine's Day crap waiting to be put out.

RemyDuron: I'm trying to think of outright evil characters in Seuss books, but I don't think there are any.

How about the king who sentences Bartholomew Cubbins to beheading because he can't remove his hat?

Ant: Voodoo_Stu: Maybe he worked in retail.

That will ruin Christmas for you, especially when you look in the back of the store mid-December and see all the Valentine's Day crap waiting to be put out.

And then I wat.

I don't get all the hate for psychoanalyzing characters and deconstructing stories/genres. To me, without that stories are pointless. If you can't break it apart and look at the meaning, identify deep underlying patterns, try to get into the heads of the characters, what is the point of a story? Without that it's just a series of meaningless events.

To read a story without trying to deconstruct it and psychoanalyze the characters seems like looking at a Magic Eye image without trying to see the hidden picture. It's utterly pointless.

/Although, oddly enough, a bunch of things that looked like Magic Eye pictures without pictures would be an art piece I would greatly enjoy.

King Something: And now for the next fictional character to by psychologically analyzed by a PhD with too much free time, Jesus Christ!


Messianic complex

wwffan7385: He brought everything back, all the food for the feast
Then he got arrested, which he didn't like in the least

He got 50 for grand theft, thrown right into the slammer
Today he ____________ (can't think of anything good to rhyme)

/give me a break, i'm doing this right before work
//i don't celebrate the holidays till i put in my Grinch (1966 VERSION) dvd

If you can't find a rhyme for slammer, change it...


He got 50 for grand theft, thrown right into the clink
Now he's out on parole 'cause he had a good shrink

"He was not himself!" said the Who-shrink that day,
"He'd gone mad in the head! He was in a bad way!"

A succesful appeal was brought to the court,
Not Criminally Responsible got their vote of support.

The Grinch now lives back in his hole on the hill
Though he visits monthly with Parole Officer Will.

A restraining order keeps the Whos safe from the Grinch
As court-ordered prozac keeps his heart from shrinking another inch.


/Lost the meter there at the end a bit...