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2009-12-07 03:12:17 PM
Awesome article. It's great to see someone with a head on his shoulders.
 
2009-12-07 03:14:48 PM
Actually, he wasn't fired from MASH, he quit. He said the time he spent acting was costing him too much money.
 
2009-12-07 03:16:03 PM
He was also in an excellent and all-too-shortlived series, City Of Angels, that was better than anything Alan Alda did post-M*A*S*H.
 
2009-12-07 05:24:08 PM
Lost?
He left voluntarily.
 
2009-12-07 07:25:53 PM
FTFA:

Although he's staunchly against regulation, Rogers testified in Congress against the repeal of Glass-Steagall, the law passed in 1933 that kept banks out of the securities business.

Because bank deposits are insured "it's a proper area to be regulated," he says. Rogers blames the recent financial crisis largely on the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999.



THIS, THIS, So much THIS.
 
2009-12-07 07:27:31 PM
Bag of Hammers: FTFA:

Although he's staunchly against regulation, Rogers testified in Congress against the repeal of Glass-Steagall, the law passed in 1933 that kept banks out of the securities business.

Because bank deposits are insured "it's a proper area to be regulated," he says. Rogers blames the recent financial crisis largely on the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999.



THIS, THIS, So much THIS.


Another actor testifying in front of Congress. Meh.

/kidding.
 
2009-12-07 08:09:14 PM
Not surprising. The man just looks smart:

img2.timeinc.net
 
2009-12-07 08:10:31 PM
He has a very practical attitude about business and investing, I enjoy watching him on FBN. I'd say he's more libertarian than he admits in the article, despite his Glass Steagall opposition.

I'm surprised he's 76, he looks younger.
 
2009-12-07 08:13:13 PM
Trapper John > BJ Honeycutt.
 
2009-12-07 08:14:27 PM
I wonder if he has some Hot Tips?
 
2009-12-07 08:17:42 PM
FTA: "Politically, Rogers considers himself a "Jeffersonian democrat. The best government is the least government," he says. "In some areas, I'm libertarian. I don't subscribe to any one party, they are all bad."


I'd vote for him.
 
2009-12-07 08:17:47 PM
Absolutely amazing the inconsequential pap that gets greenlit here.
 
2009-12-07 08:21:47 PM
So Wayne became friends with a rich guy, who then let him get wealthy in his circle of friends, which then makes him a financial genius?

Remember folks it's who you know, not what you know.
 
2009-12-07 08:22:18 PM
bigpeeler: Awesome article. It's great to see someone with a head on his shoulders.

Yeah, it's nice to see someone in entertainment and not think "What a bloody idiot."
 
2009-12-07 08:34:04 PM
i253.photobucket.com

RIP WAYNE ROGERS
 
2009-12-07 08:35:35 PM
Midnight Rambler: Not surprising. The man just looks smart:

Insert "I see what you did there" pic here.
 
2009-12-07 08:54:22 PM
Jeff73: FTA: "Politically, Rogers considers himself a "Jeffersonian democrat. The best government is the least government," he says. "In some areas, I'm libertarian. I don't subscribe to any one party, they are all bad."


I'd vote for him.


Yeah, problem is people who know how to make money legitimately don't need to go into politics.
 
2009-12-07 09:08:02 PM
Bag of Hammers: FTFA:

Although he's staunchly against regulation, Rogers testified in Congress against the repeal of Glass-Steagall, the law passed in 1933 that kept banks out of the securities business.

Because bank deposits are insured "it's a proper area to be regulated," he says. Rogers blames the recent financial crisis largely on the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999.



THIS, THIS, So much THIS.


But that goes against the "bush is to blame" mantra so he must be a right wing nut job.

Love trapper so much better than whiney douche that was BJ, he took his role so seriously that hes a whiney douche in real life as well.
 
2009-12-07 09:10:00 PM
Gangway Fathead: Jeff73: FTA: "Politically, Rogers considers himself a "Jeffersonian democrat. The best government is the least government," he says. "In some areas, I'm libertarian. I don't subscribe to any one party, they are all bad."


I'd vote for him.

Yeah, problem is people who know how to make money legitimately don't need to go into politics.


That would be true IF we had the kind of government that stayed off the backs of people who made their money without force or fraud.
 
2009-12-07 09:12:48 PM
He's also a really good trombonist.
 
2009-12-07 09:15:26 PM
I miss Hello Larry
 
2009-12-07 09:22:28 PM
BalugaJoe: I miss Hello Larry

And Meadowlark Lemon as Meadowlark.
 
2009-12-07 09:33:16 PM
Gangway Fathead: Trapper John > BJ Honeycutt.

Oh. Hell. Yes.

I know it was mentioned in another M*A*S*H thread, but has there ever been a more annoying main character than BJ Honeycutt?
 
2009-12-07 09:42:34 PM
Your_Huckleberry: I know it was mentioned in another M*A*S*H thread, but has there ever been a more annoying main character than BJ Honeycutt?

Obviously, you have never seen any show with the name "Tyler Perry" attached to it.

What would Hawkeye and Trapper done without Frank Burns? Bless you Larry Linville.
 
2009-12-07 09:45:06 PM
He may be rich, but he never had a major with hot lips.

static.tvguide.com
 
2009-12-07 09:47:42 PM
Wayne Rogers was part of the crappy M*A*S*H, the one that, with rare exception, had the attitude of, "Golly, isn't life zany and wacky here in the Korean War?" When Mike Farrell replaced him, there was a transitional period, and gradually the show became what everyone remembers was great about it on an almost weekly basis.

But who cares what I think? You guys never respond to what I say anyway.
 
2009-12-07 10:00:44 PM
I'm glad to see he made a life for himself outside of acting and was successful, but I'm really doubtful of his acumen. He had a lot of money and openly admits that he buys stuff on the cheap and is even talking reality shows...but then says there's a lot of future 'growth' for him in banks and real estate.

The man's main weapon is a lot of capital, but he seems to buy low and then sell high. Very good if he can do it, but if he was a poorer man (30K a year, maybe) and made his money that way would garner more respect than an actor on a popular star choosing to invest his money wisely. I don't mean to tarnish his accomplishments, but I really doubt he could have gotten where he is without the capital he already had, and that's not really building yourself up from nothing as much as it's just being smart. I don't really get all the credit he gets in this thread, to be honest.
 
2009-12-07 10:02:03 PM
www.filmdope.com

I'll see your Wayne Rogers, Smitty, and raise you an Elliot Gould.
 
2009-12-07 10:12:42 PM
He's 76? God, I feel old.
 
2009-12-07 10:13:37 PM
SnakeMan: Gangway Fathead: Jeff73: FTA: "Politically, Rogers considers himself a "Jeffersonian democrat. The best government is the least government," he says. "In some areas, I'm libertarian. I don't subscribe to any one party, they are all bad."


I'd vote for him.

Yeah, problem is people who know how to make money legitimately don't need to go into politics.

That would be true IF we had the kind of government that stayed off the backs of people who made their money without force or fraud.


all I meant was people who can make it in the business world don't tend to go into politics. They have real jobs.
 
2009-12-07 10:13:41 PM
He has helped start up or turn around banks, a vineyard, a convenience-store chain and a barge company.

I don't know about the other businesses, but this is how he "turned around" the Swannee Swifty/Junior Food store chains in northwest Florida. These stores were very profitable, but they were taken over by the daughter of the owner after the dad died. She was a junior league type who was more concerned about her society garbage than the stores, and she quickly had the chain in financial trouble. Then Rodgers came in. He fired anybody competent and would only pay minimum wage. The stores quickly deteriorated into filthy hell holes, run by the dregs of society. People started avoiding them, and after about a year Rodgers turned to government and got a chapter 11 bankruptcy. He then proceeded to sell the stores individually to foreigners, mostly dot-head Indians. The day that he filed for bankruptcy was the day before payday for all those minimum wage earners, who went to work to find their stores chained shut. Most of these folks were living week to week and they hit the unemployment offices, the rescue missions, catholic charities and goodwill en masse, causing severe shortages for the rest of the people that these groups were helping. Then that weekend, the local newspaper came out, and there was a glowing piece about what an 'astute businessman' Wayne Rodgers was in the Parade magazine supplement. A piece that read pretty much like this one.

It was a while before all those stores reopened, and all us folks out in the sticks had to make sure to buy our lotto tickets in town for a couple of years. Before the old man whose daughter took over the stores died, all those stores had American workers; they paid benefits and it was a good job. Now almost all the employees are foreigners.

If there actually is a hell, this rancid piece of dog vomit will be there, eternally getting a red hot poker shoved up his crooked ass.

And he sucked donkey dicks as an actor, too.
 
2009-12-07 10:14:21 PM
SnakeMan: Wayne Rogers was part of the crappy M*A*S*H, the one that, with rare exception, had the attitude of, "Golly, isn't life zany and wacky here in the Korean War?" When Mike Farrell replaced him, there was a transitional period, and gradually the show became what everyone remembers was great about it on an almost weekly basis.

But who cares what I think? You guys never respond to what I say anyway.


OK, I'll respond.

Early Trapper-Hawkeye-Henry-Frank Burns M*A*S*H is great for goofy, often-clever, fun-loving, mindless laughs.

Later BJ-Charles-Potter-Serious Hawkeye M*A*S*H is great for preachy, heavy-handed, buzz-killing morality lessons.
 
2009-12-07 10:17:35 PM
oldebayer: He was also in an excellent and all-too-shortlived series, City Of Angels, that was better than anything Alan Alda did post-M*A*S*H.

He left MASH to do this show. Not fired.
 
2009-12-07 10:19:02 PM
I'd say the best era of MASH is the transitional era... Hawkeye, BJ, Col. Potter, and Frank Burns lasst couple seasons/Winchester's first season. (Seasons 4-6, for those who are counting)

But make no mistake... if BJ has a mustache, you're going to be getting a sermon.
 
2009-12-07 10:19:35 PM
Midnight Rambler: SnakeMan: Wayne Rogers was part of the crappy M*A*S*H, the one that, with rare exception, had the attitude of, "Golly, isn't life zany and wacky here in the Korean War?" When Mike Farrell replaced him, there was a transitional period, and gradually the show became what everyone remembers was great about it on an almost weekly basis.

But who cares what I think? You guys never respond to what I say anyway.

OK, I'll respond.

Early Trapper-Hawkeye-Henry-Frank Burns M*A*S*H is great for goofy, often-clever, fun-loving, mindless laughs.

Later BJ-Charles-Potter-Serious Hawkeye M*A*S*H is great for preachy, heavy-handed, buzz-killing morality lessons.


I didn't see those later episodes as morality lessons so much as grim portrayals of the realities of war. You used the words "buzz-killing": those episodes showed how even drinking didn't help make the reality of the war easy to deal with.

Sorry, broseph, but wars are inherently buzzkills. If you're watching a TV show about a war for...oh, Christ, forget it.
 
2009-12-07 10:23:18 PM
varmitydog: He has helped start up or turn around banks, a vineyard, a convenience-store chain and a barge company.

I don't know about the other businesses, but this is how he "turned around" the Swannee Swifty/Junior Food store chains in northwest Florida. These stores were very profitable, but they were taken over by the daughter of the owner after the dad died. She was a junior league type who was more concerned about her society garbage than the stores, and she quickly had the chain in financial trouble. Then Rodgers came in. He fired anybody competent and would only pay minimum wage. The stores quickly deteriorated into filthy hell holes, run by the dregs of society. People started avoiding them, and after about a year Rodgers turned to government and got a chapter 11 bankruptcy. He then proceeded to sell the stores individually to foreigners, mostly dot-head Indians. The day that he filed for bankruptcy was the day before payday for all those minimum wage earners, who went to work to find their stores chained shut. Most of these folks were living week to week and they hit the unemployment offices, the rescue missions, catholic charities and goodwill en masse, causing severe shortages for the rest of the people that these groups were helping. Then that weekend, the local newspaper came out, and there was a glowing piece about what an 'astute businessman' Wayne Rodgers was in the Parade magazine supplement. A piece that read pretty much like this one.

It was a while before all those stores reopened, and all us folks out in the sticks had to make sure to buy our lotto tickets in town for a couple of years. Before the old man whose daughter took over the stores died, all those stores had American workers; they paid benefits and it was a good job. Now almost all the employees are foreigners.

If there actually is a hell, this rancid piece of dog vomit will be there, eternally getting a red hot poker shoved up his crooked ass.

And he sucked donkey dicks as an actor, too.


So you're saying you're not a fan.
 
2009-12-07 10:25:38 PM
Midnight Rambler: Early Trapper-Hawkeye-Henry-Frank Burns M*A*S*H is great for goofy, often-clever, fun-loving, mindless laughs.

Later BJ-Charles-Potter-Serious Hawkeye M*A*S*H is great for preachy, heavy-handed, buzz-killing morality lessons.


Best M*A*S*H was the time in-between, after Blake and Trapper had left, but before Frank and Radar left.
 
2009-12-07 10:26:28 PM
SnakeMan: Midnight Rambler: SnakeMan: Wayne Rogers was part of the crappy M*A*S*H, the one that, with rare exception, had the attitude of, "Golly, isn't life zany and wacky here in the Korean War?" When Mike Farrell replaced him, there was a transitional period, and gradually the show became what everyone remembers was great about it on an almost weekly basis.

But who cares what I think? You guys never respond to what I say anyway.

OK, I'll respond.

Early Trapper-Hawkeye-Henry-Frank Burns M*A*S*H is great for goofy, often-clever, fun-loving, mindless laughs.

Later BJ-Charles-Potter-Serious Hawkeye M*A*S*H is great for preachy, heavy-handed, buzz-killing morality lessons.

I didn't see those later episodes as morality lessons so much as grim portrayals of the realities of war. You used the words "buzz-killing": those episodes showed how even drinking didn't help make the reality of the war easy to deal with.

Sorry, broseph, but wars are inherently buzzkills. If you're watching a TV show about a war for...oh, Christ, forget it.


You're right - a sitcom set during a war should go easy on the laughs, lest the viewers start to think war is one big party.

I mean, Hogan's Heroes didn't have nearly enough gas chamber scenes.
 
2009-12-07 10:45:42 PM
StrikitRich: I'll see your Wayne Rogers, Smitty, and raise you an Elliot Gould.

The M*A*S*H movie is still one of the funniest I've ever seen.

/goddamn army
 
2009-12-07 10:50:58 PM
Midnight Rambler: SnakeMan: Midnight Rambler: SnakeMan: Wayne Rogers was part of the crappy M*A*S*H, the one that, with rare exception, had the attitude of, "Golly, isn't life zany and wacky here in the Korean War?" When Mike Farrell replaced him, there was a transitional period, and gradually the show became what everyone remembers was great about it on an almost weekly basis.

But who cares what I think? You guys never respond to what I say anyway.

OK, I'll respond.

Early Trapper-Hawkeye-Henry-Frank Burns M*A*S*H is great for goofy, often-clever, fun-loving, mindless laughs.

Later BJ-Charles-Potter-Serious Hawkeye M*A*S*H is great for preachy, heavy-handed, buzz-killing morality lessons.

I didn't see those later episodes as morality lessons so much as grim portrayals of the realities of war. You used the words "buzz-killing": those episodes showed how even drinking didn't help make the reality of the war easy to deal with.

Sorry, broseph, but wars are inherently buzzkills. If you're watching a TV show about a war for...oh, Christ, forget it.

You're right - a sitcom set during a war should go easy on the laughs, lest the viewers start to think war is one big party.

I mean, Hogan's Heroes didn't have nearly enough gas chamber scenes.


Why did M*A*S*H have to be classified as a sitcom? I'll admit I never saw the movie, but from what I understand, it wasn't a conventional comedy. So, why did the TV adaptation need to be a conventional sitcom?
 
2009-12-07 10:59:57 PM
Shrugging Atlas: StrikitRich: I'll see your Wayne Rogers, Smitty, and raise you an Elliot Gould.

The M*A*S*H movie is still one of the funniest I've ever seen.

/goddamn army


My absolute favorite of all time.

/"The Pro from Dover" would be a good fark handle
 
2009-12-07 11:03:41 PM
SnakeMan:Why did M*A*S*H have to be classified as a sitcom? I'll admit I never saw the movie, but from what I understand, it wasn't a conventional comedy. So, why did the TV adaptation need to be a conventional sitcom?

It definitely started out as a traditional sitcom, but I agree that it quickly grew beyond that.

All I'm saying is that I don't enjoy the later episodes as much because of the relentlessly heavy subject matter. There is important and valuable stuff there, it's just not my preference when it comes to M*A*S*H.
 
2009-12-07 11:05:18 PM
SilentStrider: Midnight Rambler: Early Trapper-Hawkeye-Henry-Frank Burns M*A*S*H is great for goofy, often-clever, fun-loving, mindless laughs.

Later BJ-Charles-Potter-Serious Hawkeye M*A*S*H is great for preachy, heavy-handed, buzz-killing morality lessons.

Best M*A*S*H was the time in-between, after Blake and Trapper had left, but before Frank and Radar left.


Yep, those were some awesome episodes. Hell, you get "Dear Sigmund" and a bunch of the other best episodes. It's at a balance point between the humor of the earlier seasons and the morality lessons of the later seasons. I'd include the season right before Blake and Trapper leave as part of the good period. The series does jump the shark when Radar leaves.

/my family loves MASH re-runs.
 
2009-12-07 11:20:23 PM
The show didn't really get warmed up until the final year with Trapper & Henry Blake. From there through about the point where Radar bails is all good stuff. When Klinger takes over Radar's job you know you can pretty much skip 95% of the episodes on through to the end.
 
2009-12-07 11:24:18 PM
SharkTrager: varmitydog: He has helped start up or turn around banks, a vineyard, a convenience-store chain and a barge company.

I don't know about the other businesses, but this is how he "turned around" the Swannee Swifty/Junior Food store chains in northwest Florida. These stores were very profitable, but they were taken over by the daughter of the owner after the dad died. She was a junior league type who was more concerned about her society garbage than the stores, and she quickly had the chain in financial trouble. Then Rodgers came in. He fired anybody competent and would only pay minimum wage. The stores quickly deteriorated into filthy hell holes, run by the dregs of society. People started avoiding them, and after about a year Rodgers turned to government and got a chapter 11 bankruptcy. He then proceeded to sell the stores individually to foreigners, mostly dot-head Indians. The day that he filed for bankruptcy was the day before payday for all those minimum wage earners, who went to work to find their stores chained shut. Most of these folks were living week to week and they hit the unemployment offices, the rescue missions, catholic charities and goodwill en masse, causing severe shortages for the rest of the people that these groups were helping. Then that weekend, the local newspaper came out, and there was a glowing piece about what an 'astute businessman' Wayne Rodgers was in the Parade magazine supplement. A piece that read pretty much like this one.

It was a while before all those stores reopened, and all us folks out in the sticks had to make sure to buy our lotto tickets in town for a couple of years. Before the old man whose daughter took over the stores died, all those stores had American workers; they paid benefits and it was a good job. Now almost all the employees are foreigners.

If there actually is a hell, this rancid piece of dog vomit will be there, eternally getting a red hot poker shoved up his crooked ass.

And he sucked donkey dicks as an actor, too.

So you're saying you're not a fan.


I would have gone with 'Cool Story, Bro', but I guess this will do.
 
2009-12-07 11:51:54 PM
I think it was Larry Gelbart who said in an interview that his favorite episode was the black and white one where the cast was supposedly interviewed by a TV newsman. The neat thing about that was that it was mainly improvised by the actors. They were asked questions and answered them as they thought their characters would answer.

I liked the show but I never seen many of the later shows that people say were too preachy. By that time I was a teenager/early 20s and hardly watched any TV at all and was out running amok with my friends. So I guess I got lucky and only remember it as a really cool, funny show.

As for Wayne, I'm not surprised he wasn't perfect. There seem to be very few rich men who are nice guys. I can think of a few and am sure there are plenty. But there are more bad than good.
 
2009-12-07 11:55:32 PM
John Buck 41: Absolutely amazing the inconsequential pap that gets greenlit here.


I too demand that only the most sober and globally significant articles be allowed to grace the front page of Fark Dot Com. Silly fluff like this should be cast off to lesser sites of the sort that feature pictures of squirrel balls.
 
2009-12-07 11:57:08 PM
He is actually a very sharp and articulate guy. I don't always agree with him but you have to admit he does always have a good reason for feeling the way he does about any particular issue.

And was great on M*a*s*h
 
2009-12-08 12:57:08 AM
varmitydog: He has helped start up or turn around banks, a vineyard, a convenience-store chain and a barge company.

I don't know about the other businesses, but this is how he "turned around" the Swannee Swifty/Junior Food store chains in northwest Florida. These stores were very profitable, but they were taken over by the daughter of the owner after the dad died. She was a junior league type who was more concerned about her society garbage than the stores, and she quickly had the chain in financial trouble. Then Rodgers came in. He fired anybody competent and would only pay minimum wage. The stores quickly deteriorated into filthy hell holes, run by the dregs of society. People started avoiding them, and after about a year Rodgers turned to government and got a chapter 11 bankruptcy. He then proceeded to sell the stores individually to foreigners, mostly dot-head Indians. The day that he filed for bankruptcy was the day before payday for all those minimum wage earners, who went to work to find their stores chained shut. Most of these folks were living week to week and they hit the unemployment offices, the rescue missions, catholic charities and goodwill en masse, causing severe shortages for the rest of the people that these groups were helping. Then that weekend, the local newspaper came out, and there was a glowing piece about what an 'astute businessman' Wayne Rodgers was in the Parade magazine supplement. A piece that read pretty much like this one.

It was a while before all those stores reopened, and all us folks out in the sticks had to make sure to buy our lotto tickets in town for a couple of years. Before the old man whose daughter took over the stores died, all those stores had American workers; they paid benefits and it was a good job. Now almost all the employees are foreigners.

If there actually is a hell, this rancid piece of dog vomit will be there, eternally getting a red hot poker shoved up his crooked ass.

And he sucked donkey dicks as an actor, too.


Thought so.

As I said in my initial post, he makes a living by destroying companies and leeching the money out of them. Yeah, he makes a lot of money, but everybody who has an excess of money doing that either has no scruples or is doing something highly unethical and/or illegal.

What a piece of shiat. I wonder what he was like on set to 'quit' like that to do shiat like this. Sociopathic narcissism?
 
2009-12-08 01:10:02 AM
FirstNationalBastard: I'd say the best era of MASH is the transitional era... Hawkeye, BJ, Col. Potter, and Frank Burns lasst couple seasons/Winchester's first season. (Seasons 4-6, for those who are counting)

But make no mistake... if BJ has a mustache, you're going to be getting a sermon.


Like spotting the good Star Trek seasons by looking for Riker's beard: once BJ threw on the Chucks,pink tee , vest and 'stache, you knew a lesson was a'coming.

Midnight Rambler: SnakeMan:Why did M*A*S*H have to be classified as a sitcom? I'll admit I never saw the movie, but from what I understand, it wasn't a conventional comedy. So, why did the TV adaptation need to be a conventional sitcom?

It definitely started out as a traditional sitcom, but I agree that it quickly grew beyond that.

All I'm saying is that I don't enjoy the later episodes as much because of the relentlessly heavy subject matter. There is important and valuable stuff there, it's just not my preference when it comes to M*A*S*H.


M*A*S*H was always considered a sitcom, at least by the Emmys, they even went as far to stick a laugh track on the first couple of years. Don't forget that the 70s were chock full of unconventional sitcoms that often dealt with very heavy subject matter, probably much more so than today.
 
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