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(BBC)   Turns out MIT is slightly better than FARK at finding giant red balloons   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 120
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2009-12-06 02:20:51 PM  
tarvuz: MIT is better at being smart and making money off of it.

Fark is better at mocking suffering in a snide manner and making money off of it.


...And your point is?
 
2009-12-06 02:25:40 PM  
Anyone wanna paraphrase the classic RugbyJock showing the proper realtionship between MIT and FARK?

/No skills
//none anywhere
///it's been a fun 4 threads.
 
2009-12-06 02:26:19 PM  
bbfreak: noneyourbase: OT question, for the UK farkers out there:

A team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Mit) won the challenge and a prize of $40,000 (£24,000).

Johanna Jones, a spokeswoman for the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa), said that beyond the actual contest, the aim was to see whether social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter should be seen as credible sources of information.

What's with the capitalization? Is it a British thing?

Here you go, helpful on the subject. :P Link (new window)

...the way we write the acronyms for the US and European space agencies in lower-case letters - "Nasa" and "Esa".

The BBC only uses upper-case for the acronyms in which each individual letter is sounded, as in, err, "BBC".


So, it's Nasa because they say "nasa." Do they actually say "eesa" for the Esa? Sounds like Jar Jar Binks.
 
2009-12-06 02:27:02 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

"Mm hmm, well, that's... very good... for a first try. You know what? I have a ball. Perhaps you'd like to bounce it?"
 
2009-12-06 02:31:07 PM  
bbfreak: noneyourbase: OT question, for the UK farkers out there:

A team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Mit) won the challenge and a prize of $40,000 (£24,000).

Johanna Jones, a spokeswoman for the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa), said that beyond the actual contest, the aim was to see whether social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter should be seen as credible sources of information.

What's with the capitalization? Is it a British thing?

Here you go, helpful on the subject. :P Link (new window)


"The BBC only uses upper-case for the acronyms in which each individual letter is sounded, as in, err, "BBC""

I don't know anyone who pronounces "MIT" as anything other than "M-I-T". I suppose it could be pronounced like "mitt", but I've never heard it like that.
 
2009-12-06 02:32:36 PM  
Itsallaboutme: Well did we beat Facebook and Twitter?

I don't know the answer to that yet, but I do know that at one point we contributed mightily to the crashing of Twitter.
 
2009-12-06 02:47:40 PM  
jat26006: Crudbucket: Those nerds probably had a man on the inside.

Came here to say THIS

/leaving happy


+1. Probably used their one and only friend for this.
Or they built something to skim for balloon postings instead of actually, you know, socializing.
 
2009-12-06 02:55:42 PM  
So, did any of you farkers even consider just doing a Google search for "Wow, I just saw big red balloon"
 
2009-12-06 02:55:47 PM  
Cerberus: jat26006: Crudbucket: Those nerds probably had a man on the inside.

Came here to say THIS

/leaving happy

+1. Probably used their one and only friend for this.
Or they built something to skim for balloon postings instead of actually, you know, socializing.


They had a pyramid payout structure. 4 grand payout per balloon

"We're giving $2000 per balloon to the first person to send us the correct coordinates, but that's not all -- we're also giving $1000 to the person who invited them. Then we're giving $500 whoever invited the inviter, and $250 to whoever invited them, and so on."
 
2009-12-06 02:56:24 PM  
Uchiha_Cycliste: So, did any of you farkers even consider just doing a Google search for "Wow, I just saw big red balloon"

fark had 8 correct when the contest closed
 
2009-12-06 03:00:34 PM  
missmarsha: Cerberus: jat26006: Crudbucket: Those nerds probably had a man on the inside.

Came here to say THIS

/leaving happy

+1. Probably used their one and only friend for this.
Or they built something to skim for balloon postings instead of actually, you know, socializing.

They had a pyramid payout structure. 4 grand payout per balloon

"We're giving $2000 per balloon to the first person to send us the correct coordinates, but that's not all -- we're also giving $1000 to the person who invited them. Then we're giving $500 whoever invited the inviter, and $250 to whoever invited them, and so on."


I'd be surprised if they didn't just have some MIT alumni at DARPA call em up and tell them where they were. Now, that's networking.
 
2009-12-06 03:08:30 PM  
Uchiha_Cycliste: So, did any of you farkers even consider just doing a Google search for "Wow, I just saw big red balloon"

Different sentence structure, same thought ... but yes, yes I did. Also checked ebay (highest price I saw for five coordinates was an asking price of $9000) and craigslist.
 
2009-12-06 03:10:54 PM  
missmarsha: Uchiha_Cycliste: So, did any of you farkers even consider just doing a Google search for "Wow, I just saw big red balloon"

fark had 8 correct when the contest closed


I know, I lurked a little. Mainly was being snarky after people mentioned facebook/witter etc.
1lastcall
It brings me joy that this plan of attack wasn't neglected.
 
2009-12-06 03:11:04 PM  
Donald_McRonald: zamboni: tukatz: Why does DARPA hate the Midwest states?

Red balloons in Wisconsin? Not yours.

They'd just fill 'em with beer or cheese or some damn fool thing.

Or cheese beer. Or beer cheese.


Mmmmm beer cheese soup.
 
2009-12-06 03:12:21 PM  
Looks like a few Darpa guys went to MIT.
 
2009-12-06 03:12:36 PM  
zedster: RoyBatty: Big Merl: No Subby, MIT is better at paying other people to find giant red balloons for them.

Don't be bitter. It was a test of networking strategies or something like that. MIT had their's which was to pay per node of successful network created, and FARK had their's was was to invoke the power of FARK, and in this instance MIT's bested. But not by much.

Yes, but fark is the grown up 4chan, MIT shall never know peace again


Are you fncking serious? You can't be. Fark has nothing like the /b/rothers. Fark is a sandbox; 4chan is a playground. Fark censors; 4chan inspires. Fark is what you do at work; 4chan is what you do in the dark, naked, with the blinds drawn tight.

/m00t > Drew
 
2009-12-06 03:14:53 PM  
Uchiha_Cycliste: missmarsha: Uchiha_Cycliste: So, did any of you farkers even consider just doing a Google search for "Wow, I just saw big red balloon"

fark had 8 correct when the contest closed

I know, I lurked a little. Mainly was being snarky after people mentioned facebook/witter etc.
1lastcall
It brings me joy that this plan of attack wasn't neglected.


Seemed simplistic, but it actually yielded the results of the Charlottesville coordinates.
Whilst lurking, did you happen to gaze in wonder upon the beautiful artwork created on the maps by some fabulous farkers? The DARPA people seemed to be getting a kick out of it, based on their Twitter response to it (something along the lines of 'we are getting a kick out of the artwork on the maps'.)
 
2009-12-06 03:16:51 PM  
So when are we going to start up a toys for tots donation site and kick the shiat out of those nerds at MIT?
 
2009-12-06 03:16:57 PM  
1lastcall: /and watching the farkisms pop up on the map was hysterical

i599.photobucket.com
 
2009-12-06 03:17:38 PM  
meep
 
2009-12-06 03:28:49 PM  
Looks like MIT doesn't have a webmaster. No news of their win on the site.
 
2009-12-06 03:33:44 PM  
No kidding?
 
2009-12-06 03:36:18 PM  
GWSuperfan: 1lastcall: /and watching the farkisms pop up on the map was hysterical

AWESOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMME!

Uchiha_Cycliste: meep

Like a meep over troubled waters.

/Seriously, I was so ... proud of the farkers. Don't know if vodak ever made it over Russia... he got wiped clean moments before completion.
 
2009-12-06 03:37:03 PM  
If anybody at MIT wants to be friends with me - I never really liked anybody here at FARK, I only hung out with them because I was afraid they'd hurt my dog if I didn't. They think they're a bunch of smarty-pants, with their squirrels and beer and all that, but they're not. I've always felt MIT was full of much friendlier and more fashionable, good-looking people. These guys here are always picking on me and spilling beer on the servers and saying "Meep" and putting things in their butts and making fun of my dog. You MIT guys are way more cooler than them, so let me know. I even have a computer, we can hang out and play Tetris and stuff.
 
2009-12-06 03:39:45 PM  
Your dog is so dead now.
 
2009-12-06 03:41:10 PM  
Kaka: Looks like MIT doesn't have a webmaster. No news of their win on the site.

if you and your crew just won 40k, can you imagine how faded you'd still be right now?
$20 says they drank first, then tried to update stuff and were to wasted to type passwords correctly. Ironically they were able to do everything else they needed to, and quicker than usual, they just forgot the passwords.
 
2009-12-06 04:13:43 PM  
Uchiha, they do not have 40K. They paid out $4000 per balloon.
 
2009-12-06 04:18:07 PM  
Kevin72: Uchiha, they do not have 40K. They paid out $4000 per balloon.

how many balloons were there?
 
2009-12-06 04:19:07 PM  
Uchiha_Cycliste: Kevin72: Uchiha, they do not have 40K. They paid out $4000 per balloon.

how many balloons were there?


there were 10 balloons. Can you read or are you trolling?
 
2009-12-06 04:28:20 PM  
missmarsha: Uchiha_Cycliste: Kevin72: Uchiha, they do not have 40K. They paid out $4000 per balloon.

how many balloons were there?

there were 10 balloons. Can you read or are you trolling?


I'm confused and probably dumb. Not trolling though.
I sort of thought that winner takes all for the 10 balloons. 4kx10balloons was 40k. Was it really first to spot wins 4k?
inform and insult me! but take pity, I've been working non-stop for days and details often elude me.
 
2009-12-06 04:32:14 PM  
missmarsha: Cerberus: jat26006: Crudbucket: Those nerds probably had a man on the inside.

Came here to say THIS

/leaving happy

+1. Probably used their one and only friend for this.
Or they built something to skim for balloon postings instead of actually, you know, socializing.

They had a pyramid payout structure. 4 grand payout per balloon

"We're giving $2000 per balloon to the first person to send us the correct coordinates, but that's not all -- we're also giving $1000 to the person who invited them. Then we're giving $500 whoever invited the inviter, and $250 to whoever invited them, and so on."
 
2009-12-06 04:32:38 PM  
Cynical Idealist: bbfreak: noneyourbase: OT question, for the UK farkers out there:

A team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Mit) won the challenge and a prize of $40,000 (£24,000).

Johanna Jones, a spokeswoman for the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa), said that beyond the actual contest, the aim was to see whether social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter should be seen as credible sources of information.

What's with the capitalization? Is it a British thing?

Here you go, helpful on the subject. :P Link (new window)

"The BBC only uses upper-case for the acronyms in which each individual letter is sounded, as in, err, "BBC""

I don't know anyone who pronounces "MIT" as anything other than "M-I-T". I suppose it could be pronounced like "mitt", but I've never heard it like that.


Clearly the BBC cannot follow its own conventions for places like MIT because it thinks you should pronounce everything.

I kind of like this convention in principle because it hints how you say it, but still leaves you totally screwed with odd acronyms like "Gif".
 
2009-12-06 04:45:10 PM  
http://www.stratofox.org/twiki/bin/view/Stratofox/NetworkChallenge2009

I ran into that just a little while ago, and my jaw literally dropped. Our results were identical, even down to the two balloons they fell for (which I did as well).

I was so sure of those two that I didn't even bother to check when the list came out last night, only realized my mistake this morning. Unfortunately that dropped our correct finds down to six rather than the eight I claimed last night. I was chasing down info on four other balloons when the results were announced, but only one of them happened to be real.

It just floored me when I realized that a bunch of internet dorks, when sufficiently motivated, can accomplish as much as an organization whose entire reason for existence is doing stuff like this. Plus, I'm pretty sure none of them went the extra mile to write "PENUS" on South America.
 
2009-12-06 04:46:13 PM  
1lastcall: missmarsha: Fark found 8, not bad I think, especially when we weren't paying for leads

It. Was. Awesome.

/and watching the farkisms pop up on the map was hysterical


Your welcome...

/It all innocently started when I made a smiley face, then someone in the thread suggested a penis in the north pacific, and another farker contributed that...eventually I drew Fark next to my smiley face. Then it got wiped and other farkers took over, and they wiped it again.

//someone even helped me with fark, much to my chagrin...look how perfect the F and A are...

i147.photobucket.com
 
2009-12-06 04:49:10 PM  
How come everything is in a "park" except miami?

Why does darpa hate miami?

/can't ever find my caps key
 
2009-12-06 05:07:20 PM  
 
2009-12-06 05:27:15 PM  
Dr. Poison: If anybody at MIT wants to be friends with me - I never really liked anybody here at FARK, I only hung out with them because I was afraid they'd hurt my dog if I didn't. They think they're a bunch of smarty-pants, with their squirrels and beer and all that, but they're not. I've always felt MIT was full of much friendlier and more fashionable, good-looking people. These guys here are always picking on me and spilling beer on the servers and saying "Meep" and putting things in their butts and making fun of my dog. You MIT guys are way more cooler than them, so let me know. I even have a computer, we can hang out and play Tetris and stuff.

Go meep yourself...
 
2009-12-06 05:34:22 PM  
And here's the actual list of locations with the balloon #'s:

#1) Union Square, San Francisco CA
#2) Chapparal Park, Scottdale AZ
#3) Tonsler Park, Charrlottesville, VA
#4) Chase Palm Park, Santa Barbara, CA
#5) Lee Park, Memphis, TN
#6) Collins Ave, Miami, FL
#7) Glasgow Park, Belltown Woods, DE
#8) Katy Park, Katy, TX
#9) Waterfront Park, Portland, OR
#10) Centennial Park, Atlanta, GA

1,2,3,4 & 9 were confirmed to me by Farkers, in many cases several times. I can't remember logins off the top of my head, but I have hundreds of emails to go through again. I do want to eventually give you credit for them.

7 I figured out later on with some tips and a couple of really lucky searches.

I was chasing down the Memphis balloon when the contest ended, and I had Katy on the backburner because I didn't have enough info to go on for even a rudimentary search. Atlanta and Miami never even hit my radar as far as I know.
 
2009-12-06 05:38:02 PM  
Great work PRG! Tell Drew we said you should get a raise
 
2009-12-06 05:40:23 PM  
missmarsha: Great work PRG!

This.

/someone is getting pictures of feet in her stocking
 
2009-12-06 05:47:15 PM  
We should get the money.
 
2009-12-06 05:52:34 PM  
RoyBatty: jdcproskater3: Of course MIT would win something like this.

Personally, I'm disappointed Pacific Tech didn't win.


They were using Kent's Phase Conjugate Tracking System...
 
2009-12-06 06:06:04 PM  
Dr. Poison: If anybody at MIT wants to be friends with me - I never really liked anybody here at FARK, I only hung out with them because I was afraid they'd hurt my dog if I didn't. They think they're a bunch of smarty-pants, with their squirrels and beer and all that, but they're not. I've always felt MIT was full of much friendlier and more fashionable, good-looking people. These guys here are always picking on me and spilling beer on the servers and saying "Meep" and putting things in their butts and making fun of my dog. You MIT guys are way more cooler than them, so let me know. I even have a computer, we can hang out and play Tetris and stuff.

I would, but I just finished putting things up your dogs butt.

/I know a few other MIT farkers as well.
 
2009-12-06 06:08:12 PM  
zamboni: Do they actually say "eesa" for the Esa? Sounds like Jar Jar Binks.

Yes, the ESA engineers I've met all pronounce it as eesa or ay-suh.
 
2009-12-06 06:08:31 PM  
Dr. Poison: If anybody at MIT wants to be friends with me - I never really liked anybody here at FARK, I only hung out with them because I was afraid they'd hurt my dog if I didn't. They think they're a bunch of smarty-pants, with their squirrels and beer and all that, but they're not. I've always felt MIT was full of much friendlier and more fashionable, good-looking people. These guys here are always picking on me and spilling beer on the servers and saying "Meep" and putting things in their butts and making fun of my dog. You MIT guys are way more cooler than them, so let me know. I even have a computer, we can hang out and play Tetris and stuff.

As both a farker and an MIT student, I'm unsure of how I'm cooler than myself. But no, let's not be friends. Meep.
 
2009-12-06 06:09:28 PM  
MIT itself was paying people to search? Wow.
Maybe that's not cheating, but it really seems unsportsmanlike to me.
 
2009-12-06 06:11:18 PM  
obtanium666: Are you fncking serious? You can't be. Fark has nothing like the /b/rothers. Fark is a sandbox; 4chan is a playground. Fark censors; 4chan inspires. Fark is what you do at work; 4chan is what you do in the dark, naked, with the blinds drawn tight.

4chan is where people will trick you into looking at child pornography. For The Lulz.

/Sorry, not my thing, but you go ahead, I guess
//I don't mind if Fark censors the kiddy porn
 
2009-12-06 06:26:09 PM  
zunkus: Donald_McRonald: zamboni: tukatz: Why does DARPA hate the Midwest states?

Red balloons in Wisconsin? Not yours.

They'd just fill 'em with beer or cheese or some damn fool thing.

Or cheese beer. Or beer cheese.

Mmmmm beer cheese soup.



Tasty (new window)
 
2009-12-06 06:26:56 PM  
dukeblue219: zamboni: Do they actually say "eesa" for the Esa? Sounds like Jar Jar Binks.

Yes, the ESA engineers I've met all pronounce it as eesa or ay-suh.


At cal we get "EECS" thrown around a lot, pronounced as geeks, w/o the g.

EE & CS is one major, no pure EE or CS is offered in COE.
 
2009-12-06 06:26:58 PM  
punkrockgirl: And here's the actual list of locations with the balloon #'s:

#1) Union Square, San Francisco CA
#2) Chapparal Park, Scottdale AZ
#3) Tonsler Park, Charrlottesville, VA
#4) Chase Palm Park, Santa Barbara, CA
#5) Lee Park, Memphis, TN
#6) Collins Ave, Miami, FL
#7) Glasgow Park, Belltown Woods, DE
#8) Katy Park, Katy, TX
#9) Waterfront Park, Portland, OR
#10) Centennial Park, Atlanta, GA

1,2,3,4 & 9 were confirmed to me by Farkers, in many cases several times. I can't remember logins off the top of my head, but I have hundreds of emails to go through again. I do want to eventually give you credit for them.

7 I figured out later on with some tips and a couple of really lucky searches.

I was chasing down the Memphis balloon when the contest ended, and I had Katy on the backburner because I didn't have enough info to go on for even a rudimentary search. Atlanta and Miami never even hit my radar as far as I know.


Atlanta and Miami is where Groundspeak failed as well. We had 8 confirmed when the winner was announced.
 
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