Wait.

How can someone claiming you're gay possibly be considered defamatory anymore?

ThatGuyGreg: Wait... "hacked" into his Wikipedia page?

It sounds more serious than "lovingly updated."

Have added that many people are gay on wikipedia. Darren Sproles im keeping an eye on you.

You can sue for gay rumors circulating on the internet?
I understand if it's 'rumors' about raping and murdering a girl in 1990 but gay rumors?

DarthBrooks: How can someone claiming you're gay possibly be considered defamatory anymore?

Hollywood makes movies to appeal to the lowest common denominator amongst humanity. If it's well publicized that you enjoy a cock up the ass every now and then, said lowest common denominator isn't going to buy the fiction that your character can charge a Nazi bunker with your bare hands and bang a hot (female) scientist afterward.

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: Hollywood makes movies to appeal to the lowest common denominator amongst humanity. If it's well publicized that you enjoy a cock up the ass every now and then, said lowest common denominator isn't going to buy the fiction that your character can charge a Nazi bunker with your bare hands and bang a hot (female) scientist afterward.



Would like to have a word with you.

DarthBrooks: Wait.

How can someone claiming you're gay possibly be considered defamatory anymore?

It's not

You can sue the internet?

Well, shiat. Honestly I'd kinda think being accused of being straight is more defamatory these days (especially if american), because aren't like, 58% of American women fat? Odds are, if you're straight, you're farking some fat chick ... saying somebody is straight is like saying he's a chubby chaser.

/drunk
//gay
///has no idea what straight guys see in women

Neil Patrick Hardbody?

Serial: Would like to have a word with you.

How I Met Your Mother is a smart TV comedy, though. It has different unspoken rules.

Movies are a different beast. If George Clooney came out of the closet, it would surely impact how much he could pull in an opening weekend. It's the reason why we have daily reports about how Tom Cruise, Kevin Spacey, et al, are gay and hiding their love of dick. Filmgoers want believable fantasy ("believable fantasy" being something that allows them to detach from their own persona to enjoy two-hours of shiat). Your lowest common denominator can't detach his grossed-outedness about homosexuals to enjoy a thrilling action movie if Orlando Bloom is a catcher.

rynthetyn: And yet that lowest common denominator who's grossed out is probably constantly trying to get his girlfriend to try the buttsecks.

True, but Hollywood's not trying to socially engineer sexual mores.

It's trying to make a buck.

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: Serial: Would like to have a word with you.

How I Met Your Mother is a smart TV comedy, though. It has different unspoken rules.

Movies are a different beast. If George Clooney came out of the closet, it would surely impact how much he could pull in an opening weekend. It's the reason why we have daily reports about how Tom Cruise, Kevin Spacey, et al, are gay and hiding their love of dick. Filmgoers want believable fantasy ("believable fantasy" being something that allows them to detach from their own persona to enjoy two-hours of shiat). Your lowest common denominator can't detach his grossed-outedness about homosexuals to enjoy a thrilling action movie if Orlando Bloom is a catcher.



Also would like to have a word with you.

/I can play this game all day long.

As a side note, a number of the actors you listed got their big breaks at a time when the culture was vastly homophobic. We're thankfully moving into a time where for the most part people really don't care all that much. It would affect Tom Cruise, John Travolta, etc, much more as they've gone out of their way to flaunt their "straight" lifestyle. The flipside of that is when actors flaunt their homosexuality, they're reacted to somewhat negatively in the press, and therefore the movie going population.

Now take Ian McKellen, NPH, etc. These are actors who for the most part kept their sexuality to themselves and their friends and family. The only reason we know is because they just got sick of the questions, so they simply stated "yep, I'm gay, so what?", and continued on with their lives.

It's not like they ever "hid" their sexuality, they just didn't feel the need to scream it from the rafters. Those who do, like Cruise, Russel Everett, etc, they end up being the ones targeted by the press because they run around with a giant target on themselves screaming "look at me, I'm Gay, or I'm Straight!! Pay attention to me!!"

That's what can and will kill ticket sales. Those who keep their family life limited to their friends and family can get away with pretty much anything. Although if you manage to rape and kill a girl, say around 1990, there's only so long you can suppress the rumors.

Serial: Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: Serial: Would like to have a word with you.

How I Met Your Mother is a smart TV comedy, though. It has different unspoken rules.

Movies are a different beast. If George Clooney came out of the closet, it would surely impact how much he could pull in an opening weekend. It's the reason why we have daily reports about how Tom Cruise, Kevin Spacey, et al, are gay and hiding their love of dick. Filmgoers want believable fantasy ("believable fantasy" being something that allows them to detach from their own persona to enjoy two-hours of shiat). Your lowest common denominator can't detach his grossed-outedness about homosexuals to enjoy a thrilling action movie if Orlando Bloom is a catcher.



Also would like to have a word with you.

/I can play this game all day long.

It really isn't the same thing. I don't recall a Gandolf-Bar maid hump scene. Basically, very few people can be leading men/women if they come out as gay. I can think of Neil Patrick Harris and Anne Heche (though I think she was labeling herself as straight back then).

Serial: That's what can and will kill ticket sales. Those who keep their family life limited to their friends and family can get away with pretty much anything.

You make good points, but I'm not sure if this argument will ever be settled until some giant Hollywood star comes out of the closet. Short of like Roc Hudson, I can't think of any major "masculine" movie star whose non-hetero sexuality ever became common knowledge. It's entirely possible that we've moved into a period where your average guy can watch a major film action hero save the day, fark the girl, and appreciate his compelling performance in light of his predilection for kissing boys, but I don't know if we've hit that point yet.

The guys who sign the checks in Universal City obviously don't think so.

rynthetyn: Wait, you can sue over people editing your Wikipedia page?

/backs away quietly

No shiat. I'm currently hiding under a rock and hoping Jim Rome doesn't find me.

Subby: Office Space's Ron Livingston sues over internet gay rumors. Watch out for your cornhole, bud


Why would anyone bother about rumours that the internet is gay?

I never sued when there were all those internet bisexual rumours.



/my email is gay

Ron Livingston isn't gay! He doesn't work in the steel industry, or aerospace, or the railroad....

Meredith says "welcome to the party, Ron"

rynthetyn: Well, pretty much everybody thinks Tom Cruise is gay and the only thing that's hurt his career is that he's also insane.

Hell, I think the only guy from Top Gun who's safe from any gay rumors is Tom Skerritt.

Killer Cars: Hell, I think the only guy from Top Gun who's safe from any gay rumors is Tom Skerritt.

I'll go to my grave insisting that James Tolkan and Michael Ironside are straight.

calm like a bomb: rynthetyn: Wait, you can sue over people editing your Wikipedia page?

/backs away quietly

No shiat. I'm currently hiding under a rock and hoping Jim Rome doesn't find me.

I changed Tom Anderson's (MySpace guy) Wikipedia for the hell of it, changes stayed for roughly a week. Nothing bad, I just would do things like describe different career moves as "juicy," crap like that.

I also edited Madonna's Wikipedia to indicate she had done a cover of the Ween song "Where'd The Cheese Go."

/I don't care.

In Canada, regardless of whether he were gay or not, someone like Livingston could sue for libel and win because truth of fact is not a defence, and damage to reputation is the issue. If a gay man were to argue being outed as gay were damaging to his career or social position, he would likely win. The burden of proof is one the person making the allegation, not the plaintiff, and "absence of malice" is irrelevant. Which is why there are far fewer libel lawsuits in Canada (closer to U.K. law in this). I happen to like Livingston, so he should sue the ass off his harasser just for the pleasure of giving the guy some grief - he would have so much better results if he were in Canada.

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: I'll go to my grave insisting that James Tolkan and Michael Ironside are straight.



Iceman bites in your general direction

CMP: In Canada, regardless of whether he were gay or not, someone like Livingston could sue for libel and win because truth of fact is not a defence, and damage to reputation is the issue.

So what you're saying is that if there was a Canadian politician who ran a platform the revolved entirely around preserving the sanctity of marriage and the non-rapage of children, I could be successfully sued for libel if I published videos, photos, and emails of said politician blaspheming marriage and raping children? The truth isn't a valid defense?

Canada's got some farked up libel laws.

Killer Cars: Iceman bites in your general direction

Thank you. That was sublimely awesome.

Maybe CPT Sobel had something to do with this...

/HI-HO SILVER...fabulous

He's got a case with the "use of likeness" with the Facebook fake accounts. He also might have a case since he's married to a woman and being accused of having teh gay might disallow his marriage in some states.

I assume everyone is gay until proven otherwise. Makes my life easier.

Does he have a cite to prove himself? Or maybe the other guy owns his Wikipedia article.

Killer Cars: rynthetyn: Well, pretty much everybody thinks Tom Cruise is gay and the only thing that's hurt his career is that he's also insane.

Hell, I think the only guy from Top Gun who's safe from any gay rumors is Tom Skerritt.

Anthony Edwards is a friend of Dorothy?

Band of Brothers, indeed.

I liked you Ron. Thought you were a class act. You should've brought this up as a Wry Self-Deprecating Yet Charming Anecdote on Leno and be sure to mention "Band of Brothers" a gazillion times

But no, some 60 year old lawyer said, "Don't worry, Rod, we can fix the internets. Just a little lawsuit, and we'll fix it right up. No one will accuse you of acting with women again! Never!"

calm like a bomb: rynthetyn: Wait, you can sue over people editing your Wikipedia page?

/backs away quietly

No shiat. I'm currently hiding under a rock and hoping Jim Rome doesn't find me.

pok, so what kind of smack did you talk about him?

Nightmaretony: calm like a bomb: rynthetyn: Wait, you can sue over people editing your Wikipedia page?

/backs away quietly

No shiat. I'm currently hiding under a rock and hoping Jim Rome doesn't find me.

pok, so what kind of smack did you talk about him?

Oh, I occasionally edit his page when I've had a few. Once I nuked the entire text and left it "Jim Rome is a douche." Once I inserted a paragraph detailing his awkward man-on-man encounters in Haiti. Depends on my mood.

/yes, I'm a child

corporate accounts payable nina speaking.....just a moment

/took WAYYY to long for the quotes to start

Serial:

Also would like to have a word with you.

/I can play this game all day long.

Never plays a romantic leading man. Often roles that can be summed up as 'The Consummately Charming English Man Who May Or May Not Be Bent In The Knickers.'

If Rock Hudson had come out in the height of his career... yeah, um.

Hey, everyone, we're hearing about a Hollywood guy, so either he's getting no work, or he's plugging his next project.

/stop the presses
//I want to get off

If true, he's a talented ass-clown.

Guys, I just hacked the fark mainframe to put this comment up.
HACK TEH PLANET