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(io9) Unlikely Harlan Ellison has offered to write the sequel to Abrams' Star Trek reboot...and it might work   (io9.com) divider line 68
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2009-12-05 03:13:15 PM
and unlikely
 
2009-12-05 03:21:30 PM
Nothing....and I mean nothing....is truly unlikely when involving Harlan Ellison.

It would increase the chances of a good movie by about 1,000 percent.....and increase the risk of a giant meltdown by a similar amount.
 
2009-12-05 03:21:42 PM
He just wants something else to complain about. Now it's a win/win. If he doesn't get it, he'll biatch about Paramount destroying his vision. If he gets it, he'll biatch about Paramount destroying his vision and not paying him enough royalties.
 
2009-12-05 03:28:45 PM
Yeah, I could just imagine the press junkets promoting the film.

"If you look at some of the lines in the movie, I cleverly destroyed all the f*cking assholes who have ever wronged me. As I typed it, I sh*t on Gene Roddenberry's grave. For FUN. In fact, you know what F*CK STAR TREK, I did this for MONEY you assholes. It could be Spy Kids 7 for all I give a rat's ass. F*CK YOU."
 
2009-12-05 03:31:49 PM
It would give Joan Collins something to do.
 
2009-12-05 03:38:21 PM
I'm wary.
 
2009-12-05 03:53:02 PM
No thanks. Is it just me or are most of these old-time sci-fi writers generally terrible at writing good human characters? They come up with fine larger ideas, but I don't went this dude penning dialogue.
 
2009-12-05 04:22:25 PM
Can't we just get Mitchell's fellow officers to arrest Harlan Ellison again?
 
2009-12-05 04:26:14 PM
Harlan Ellison is a great fiction writer. Amazing, even. I'd even go so far as to use the word "legendary."

But whenever he writes non-fiction, he becomes president of the Harlan Ellison fan-club. I have yet to read a single piece of his writing that wasn't self-congratulatory. Now, I realize Harlan is kind of old and set in his ways, but there's a very large difference between me praising him (first paragraph), and him showering himself with adulation.
 
2009-12-05 04:31:36 PM
Is this the same Harlan Ellison who wrote an episode of TOS and biatched endlessly because the captain's quarters didn't have a porthole Kirk could look out of reflectively at the end? Like it just wouldn't be the same with, say, a viewscreen?

The one that told them to "chop a hole in the wall and put in a porthole," like nobody would notice a porthole where no porthole had gone before?

Yeah, I like that guy.
 
2009-12-05 04:44:40 PM
oldebayer: Yeah, I like that guy.

Yup.

Here's Ellison being all "gee golly shucks if James Cameron would have asked to adopt Soldier into Terminator I would have given it to him for free.."

...and here is Ellison saying all people who give their work for free are amateur douchebags.

He's just about my favorite person.
 
2009-12-05 05:02:32 PM
arkansas: Nothing....and I mean nothing....is truly unlikely when involving Harlan Ellison.


True. When a conversation is occurring within earshot of Ellison the idea that the subject could be anything other than how awesome he is is not unlikely. It is a certainty.
 
2009-12-05 05:04:21 PM
CtrlAltDelete:
...and here is Ellison saying all people who give their work for free are amateur douchebags.


now that was funny
 
2009-12-05 05:23:47 PM
Pete and Repeat walk into a bar. Pete leaves. Who's left?
 
2009-12-05 05:24:44 PM
For some reason when I read Ellison's quotes about Abrams, I could swear I heard slurping noises.
 
2009-12-05 05:25:10 PM
why is it that whenever i hear the word brain trust i can't stop thinking about scrubs?
 
2009-12-05 05:30:32 PM
JUST... STOP... IT.

Stop it. Really, Hollywood. STOP.
 
2009-12-05 05:38:10 PM
repete
 
2009-12-05 05:38:18 PM
Spookync: JUST... STOP... IT.

Stop it. Really, Hollywood. STOP.



The Hollywood-powers-that-be have heard your concerns from afar.

Big Momma's House 3: The Reckoning will be on its way shortly.

Thank you.
 
2009-12-05 05:41:02 PM
Given the only writing Ellison ever does anymore, the plot of the movie would be a lawsuit.
 
2009-12-05 05:44:46 PM
Does this mean we'll see Enterprise crew members popping pills? Finally?
 
2009-12-05 06:05:13 PM
Twice in one week? How ambitious of him.
 
2009-12-05 06:11:36 PM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Spookync: JUST... STOP... IT.

Stop it. Really, Hollywood. STOP.


The Hollywood-powers-that-be have heard your concerns from afar.

Big Momma's House 3: The Reckoning will be on its way shortly.

Thank you.


I was hoping for Big Momma's House3
 
2009-12-05 06:13:22 PM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Can't we just get Mitchell's fellow officers to arrest Harlan Ellison again?

Ha!

/watched The Corpse Vanishes for the first time ever today
 
2009-12-05 06:15:28 PM
The All-Powerful Atheismo: I was hoping for Big Momma's House3

Keep hope ALIVE. We could get Roman numerals before this is all over!


The English Major: Ha!

/watched The Corpse Vanishes for the first time ever today


From the new box set, right?

Heh... I dig the Season 1 MST3K releases a lot more than some people... although The Slime People was something of a chore, admittedly.
 
2009-12-05 06:18:38 PM
DamnYankees: Is it just me or are most of these old-time sci-fi writers generally terrible at writing good human characters? They come up with fine larger ideas, but I don't went this dude penning dialogue.

Because the dialogue in the last Star Trek was so very exceptional and compelling...
 
2009-12-05 06:19:55 PM
kronicfeld: DamnYankees: Is it just me or are most of these old-time sci-fi writers generally terrible at writing good human characters? They come up with fine larger ideas, but I don't went this dude penning dialogue.

Because the dialogue in the last Star Trek was so very exceptional and compelling...


It was pretty good, yeah.
 
2009-12-05 06:20:25 PM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I was hoping for Big Momma's House3

Keep hope ALIVE. We could get Roman numerals before this is all over!


The English Major: Ha!

/watched The Corpse Vanishes for the first time ever today

From the new box set, right?

Heh... I dig the Season 1 MST3K releases a lot more than some people... although The Slime People was something of a chore, admittedly.


I can't wait until Volume XVII comes out...I've never seen The Crawling Eye.
 
2009-12-05 06:30:51 PM
The English Major: I can't wait until Volume XVII comes out...I've never seen The Crawling Eye.

You're in for something of a treat!

Although it's the first episode of the national run (and the first episode after the KTMA run), there are some patches of slowness here and there, but it's still a fairly solid episode.

It doesn't quite reach the heights of The Black Scorpion, Robot Monster, or Robot Holocaust, but it's a fun ride, anyways.
 
2009-12-05 06:33:43 PM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: The English Major: I can't wait until Volume XVII comes out...I've never seen The Crawling Eye.

You're in for something of a treat!

Although it's the first episode of the national run (and the first episode after the KTMA run), there are some patches of slowness here and there, but it's still a fairly solid episode.

It doesn't quite reach the heights of The Black Scorpion, Robot Monster, or Robot Holocaust, but it's a fun ride, anyways.


The torrent I have of the "complete" series is missing some KTMAs, and when I checked the season one folder last night, I noticed it started at 102.

I'm learning to appreciate the uniqueness of season 1.
 
2009-12-05 06:34:06 PM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: The English Major: I can't wait until Volume XVII comes out...I've never seen The Crawling Eye.

You're in for something of a treat!

Although it's the first episode of the national run (and the first episode after the KTMA run), there are some patches of slowness here and there, but it's still a fairly solid episode.

It doesn't quite reach the heights of The Black Scorpion, Robot Monster, or Robot Holocaust, but it's a fun ride, anyways.



I just watch it here (new window)

I think my favorite is still Outlaw with Jack Palance.
 
2009-12-05 06:45:40 PM
The English Major: The torrent I have of the "complete" series is missing some KTMAs, and when I checked the season one folder last night, I noticed it started at 102.

I only recommend the KTMA eps for:

1.) completists

2.) those who want to get a feel for the flavor of the show's changes over time.

That said, some KTMAs are more worthwhile than others, like City on Fire and The Last Chase.


I'm learning to appreciate the uniqueness of season 1.

Slower rhythms in the theater, lots of fire-based invention exchanges and Isaac Asimov jokes, but I still stand by it.


The All-Powerful Atheismo: I just watch it here (new window)

And there's a LOT on Google Video, thankfully.

They haven't cracked down to the degree that YouTube did.


I think my favorite is still Outlaw with Jack Palance.

It's the one that won Best Brains the much-coveted Peabody Award for TV excellence, matter of fact.

My favorite?

Jack Frost. Even a grump like Harlan Ellison would love THAT one.
 
2009-12-05 06:50:34 PM
Harlan Ellison has offered to write the sequel to Abrams' Star Trek reboot...and it might work

No, subby, it wouldn't.

History would repeat itself. Ellison would write the damned thing. The studio would tell Abrams that it would cost too much money to do it Ellison's way. Abrams would go back to Ellison to tell him to trim/rewrite it. Ellison would throw a tantrum. Abrams would have a second writer come in to do what Ellison wouldn't do. The movie would get made, and Ellison's pen name -- Cordwainer Bird -- would wind up on the screen.

Even in this alternate-timeline Star Trek, Ellison is still Ellison. Nothing would change. He won't be happy with the end result, no matter what. So, why even bother?
 
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2009-12-05 06:53:07 PM
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RIP Harlan Ellison
 
2009-12-05 06:54:26 PM
Make Ellison cough up The Last Dangerous Visions, first.
 
2009-12-05 06:59:09 PM
The only conceivably successful plot that Ellison could write would be the Enterprise warping into a Paramount office and James T. Kirk acting as a process server.
 
2009-12-05 07:24:09 PM
DamnYankees: No thanks. Is it just me or are most of these old-time sci-fi writers generally terrible at writing good human characters? They come up with fine larger ideas, but I don't went this dude penning dialogue.

Wow, I actually thought some of the greats dd some fantastic character development. That was the main reason I enjoyed reading Asimov, Heinlein, and Herbert. Is is some defect in my persona, or am I the only person who did not care for Ursula La Guin's writing.
 
2009-12-05 07:40:48 PM
Klingon Penis: This story was awesome four days ago.

Subby simply employed Red Matter to create a temporal submission vortex and submit this headline before the other one
 
2009-12-05 07:58:13 PM
Uh, smitty? It wasn't a reboot. It was a prequel.
 
2009-12-05 07:59:32 PM
WFern: Uh, smitty? It wasn't a reboot. It was a prequel.

Uh no?

It was clearly both?
 
2009-12-05 08:03:22 PM
WFern: It wasn't a reboot. It was a prequel.

It was a reboot because it altered completely the origin story of the Enterprise crew. In all other movies, Kirk's father had lived to see him graduate, Vulcan still existed.. So now the canon is compromised. If it were a prequel, the end would have led to the preexisting condition of a former movie.

This did not.

It's semantic bullsh*t, I know, but technically it isn't a prequel.
 
2009-12-05 08:09:54 PM
I want them to bring back MUDD!
 
2009-12-05 08:22:48 PM
"Where's the downside to getting topside of the radar of J.J. Abrams? This guy ain't Roddenberry. He's a writer I respect, whose work has frequently blown the lid off my box of supriseability."


I must have slipped into the mirror universe.
 
2009-12-05 08:49:56 PM
What, he'll write it, they'll edit it because it won't fit the budget/canon/time frame, and then he'll sue them for the next 30+ years while telling everyone who will bother to listen how much better his original idea was and what a piece of shiat the filmed version was and how Abrams is a worthless talentless jerk?

Sorry, I've got plans for the remainder of the century.
 
2009-12-05 08:54:15 PM
Gyrfalcon: Sorry, I've got plans for the remainder of the century.

Aren't you rather self-absorbed. :->
 
2009-12-05 08:59:50 PM
If you look up 'attention whore/has-been/whiney old man' in the dictionary you will find a picture of Harlen Ellison as the definition.
 
2009-12-05 09:09:03 PM
Harry_Seldon: Gyrfalcon: Sorry, I've got plans for the remainder of the century.

Aren't you rather self-absorbed. :->


Today, I'm studying ConLaw, tomorrow more of the same and CivPro, so yes, you could say that ;)
 
2009-12-05 09:11:37 PM
Isn't this a Dupe from Wednesday?
 
2009-12-05 09:17:58 PM
A sequel to 'Star Trek' is going to happen. Unfortunately, it should be a tv series instead. The best of Star Trek has always been the tv series because that is where Star Trek is allowed to be Star Trek. The 'Explore new life, new civilizations...' premise works great on tv, doesn't make for a good movie.

And for the sequel, keep a few things in mind:

Klingons are only good baddies if they aren't card board cut outs. They were perfect in DS9 in the Federation/Klingon war story arc, they were good in Star Trek 6. Sucked in Star Treks 3 and 5, because in 3 and 5 they were 2D cardboard cut outs.

This is a different Kirk and Spock, they are going to handle things differently. With that in mind, I wouldn't mind seeing this crew go against the Planet Killer.

Let Khan rot in the SS Botany Bay.

Leave the Borg in the Delta Quadrant

Let the events from "Star Trek" have repercussions into this movie. I don't know what that would be. Maybe a Vulcan exodus or setting up the Vulcan colony and having the planet under dispute with the Romulans or Klingons or Tholians.
 
2009-12-05 09:36:33 PM
In this alternate time line, Ellison writes a "meh" story, the suits at Paramount love it, and it gets made. The story doesn't win any accolades, but Harlan is satisfied by the experience and has nothing bad to say about JJ Abrams.
 
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