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(Journal Times) Asinine State group works so hard finding housing for the poor, they decide to throw themselves a party. Complete with $1,400.00 worth of flowers for "moral purposes"   (journaltimes.com) divider line 42
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2009-12-04 08:59:52 PM
moral = morale ??
 
2009-12-04 09:47:51 PM
Wisconsin Housing and Economic Development Authority...[said] in a statement that it stands by the decision to hold the party to keep morale high and that no taxpayer money was used.

So, who cares? Looks like they're supporting the local economy.
Why do you hate small business owners, Subby?
 
2009-12-04 09:48:26 PM
Just call it stimulus and people won't complain. Well... they'll probably complain that they didn't spend more.
 
2009-12-04 10:28:54 PM
Are there immoral uses for flowers?

"I bought you some posies. Mind if I put them in your dog's urethra?"
 
rmz
2009-12-04 10:49:00 PM
House of Tards: Are there immoral uses for flowers?

"I bought you some posies. Mind if I put them in your dog's urethra?"


Allow me to pinch-hit for gorgor on this one...

http://tinyurl.com/yfsvv4k
(copy and paste, NSFW)
 
2009-12-04 11:07:17 PM
That's amore.
 
2009-12-04 11:15:24 PM
rmz: House of Tards: Are there immoral uses for flowers?

"I bought you some posies. Mind if I put them in your dog's urethra?"

Allow me to pinch-hit for gorgor on this one...

http://tinyurl.com/yfsvv4k
(copy and paste, NSFW)


There is something wrong with your dog. A couple somethings.
 
2009-12-04 11:22:59 PM
If no taxpayer funds were used, what's the big deal?
 
2009-12-04 11:26:26 PM
I've always been allergic to flowers...hell I've always been allergic to everything. Summertime is nightmare for me. Ragweed, pollen and mold all gang up on me and just make my life an immunological hell. Once when I was 12 or so, I was at a friend of the family's and I was out on a quadrunner just riding up and down a hill through this grass that was seeding and it all was flying up in my face but I didn't care, I was big and bad and 12 and it was summer and I was having the time of my life. Then over the course of a few minutes my eyes swelled completely shut and i couldn't see shiat. I got off the quadrunner and stumbled blindly down into the valley between the hill and the farmhouse so I could try and maybe get someone to see or hear me, and I farking walked right into the nasty-ass horse pond at the bottom. It was gross as hell and the water smelled like manure. It got in my nose and ears and everything. Anyhow, I slogged my way across and finally my sister saw me and my dad came down and helped me up the hill to the house and chucked me in the shower, then took me to the ER for an allergy shot from a huge goddam needle. It was awful. Just farking awful. I smelled like horseshiat for days and I was in pain, and I wasn't allowed to ride the quadrunner anymore ever. Happy farking birthday to me. Some goddam party.

/weak.
//out for the weekend.
 
2009-12-04 11:36:36 PM
bullwinkl: I've always been allergic to flowers...hell I've always been allergic to everything. Summertime is nightmare for me. Ragweed, pollen and mold all gang up on me and just make my life an immunological hell. Once when I was 12 or so, I was at a friend of the family's and I was out on a quadrunner just riding up and down a hill through this grass that was seeding and it all was flying up in my face but I didn't care, I was big and bad and 12 and it was summer and I was having the time of my life. Then over the course of a few minutes my eyes swelled completely shut and i couldn't see shiat. I got off the quadrunner and stumbled blindly down into the valley between the hill and the farmhouse so I could try and maybe get someone to see or hear me, and I farking walked right into the nasty-ass horse pond at the bottom. It was gross as hell and the water smelled like manure. It got in my nose and ears and everything. Anyhow, I slogged my way across and finally my sister saw me and my dad came down and helped me up the hill to the house and chucked me in the shower, then took me to the ER for an allergy shot from a huge goddam needle. It was awful. Just farking awful. I smelled like horseshiat for days and I was in pain, and I wasn't allowed to ride the quadrunner anymore ever. Happy farking birthday to me. Some goddam party.

/weak.
//out for the weekend.


There used to be a person called Jorie who posted stuff like that.
 
2009-12-04 11:59:33 PM
No taxpayer money involved?

Check.

And we're done here.

Moving on to real news.
 
2009-12-05 12:22:52 AM
Fallen flowers?
 
2009-12-05 12:46:58 AM
Yeah, they spent $1400 of their own money.

On flowers.
 
2009-12-05 12:48:52 AM
Yeah, no taxpayer dollars were involved, but if a group was actually interested in "finding housing for the poor" couldn't they maybe have found a better use for the 1400? Difficult to argue otherwise, I'd say.
 
2009-12-05 12:49:29 AM
To be fair, they have to deal with the poor, or "disenfranchised" all day, they need nice things and a bit of comfort. It's not like their clients will appreciate them.
 
2009-12-05 12:56:25 AM
If they wrote it off as an expense, then yes, they are expecting tax dollars to reimburse them. The upfront money may have been out-of-pocket though.
 
2009-12-05 12:58:55 AM
xuanzhiyouxuan: Yeah, no taxpayer dollars were involved, but if a group was actually interested in "finding housing for the poor" couldn't they maybe have found a better use for the 1400? Difficult to argue otherwise, I'd say.

Hey, now. Be careful or someone will see the problem with this (new window).
 
2009-12-05 01:04:30 AM
Jakevol2: For those outraged by this, you do realize that burnout is a very common thing for social workers right? The morale of those very caring, very selfless people is important to make sure they are emotionally healthy enough to continue doing what is for the most part a thankless and overlooked but never the less very important job.

Social workers deserve to have fun too.

If $1400 worth of flowers helps let them have it.



$1400 for flowers to boost morale, OK.

But how much did they spend to boost the mens morale?
 
2009-12-05 01:06:37 AM
propasaurus: Wisconsin Housing and Economic Development Authority...[said] in a statement that it stands by the decision to hold the party to keep morale high and that no taxpayer money was used.

This.

I wonder how much money Sen. Glenn Grothman spends on luxuries when he could have donated. What a douche.
 
2009-12-05 01:07:08 AM
Satan_Himself: xuanzhiyouxuan: Yeah, no taxpayer dollars were involved, but if a group was actually interested in "finding housing for the poor" couldn't they maybe have found a better use for the 1400? Difficult to argue otherwise, I'd say.

Hey, now. Be careful or someone will see the problem with this (new window).


like what? give it to the salvation army? like republitard said in the article? how about this, give it to someone who actually has a business in exchange for some goods.

i guess they could've just redistribute it evenly among the poor. i know republicans love doing that.
 
2009-12-05 01:09:53 AM
Was the asinine tag for the senator, the person who wrote the article, or subby?
 
2009-12-05 01:10:04 AM
Hopefully, the plants were Angel's Trumpets, so they could just eat them and die. I'm sure the catering bill added a bit, too, the bastards.
 
2009-12-05 01:11:29 AM
Page B: Was the asinine tag for the senator, the person who wrote the article, or subby?

FTFM
 
2009-12-05 01:11:41 AM
wejash: No taxpayer money involved?

Check.

And we're done here.

Moving on to real news.


From another article: The statement noted the authority does not use tax money, instead relying on bond sales and fees.

Frankly, I'm much, much, much more concerned that the senior people at WHEDA seem unaware of how bonds get paid off and who generates fees than I am distressed over a possible minor overexpenditure.
 
2009-12-05 01:12:39 AM
Jakevol2: adeist69: Jakevol2: For those outraged by this, you do realize that burnout is a very common thing for social workers right? The morale of those very caring, very selfless people is important to make sure they are emotionally healthy enough to continue doing what is for the most part a thankless and overlooked but never the less very important job.

Social workers deserve to have fun too.

If $1400 worth of flowers helps let them have it.


$1400 for flowers to boost morale, OK.

But how much did they spend to boost the mens morale?

I don't know I guess you would have to ask someone at the agency. But again how ever much it was if it helped improve morale it is worth it.


hookers and blow aren't something you want to cheap out on. That's all I'm saying.
 
2009-12-05 01:17:07 AM
I spent $1400 on doilies for my wedding. It kept morale high.
 
2009-12-05 01:17:12 AM
mxwjs: i guess they could've just redistribute it evenly among the poor. i know republicans love doing that.

Or, you know, pay for the rent of one or two families for a month. Not a lot, but better than morale flowers.
 
2009-12-05 01:21:05 AM
www.blogforumchat.net
 
2009-12-05 01:29:27 AM
Since they didn't use tax money, how do we think they paid for it:

1. User fees / permitting fees
2. Indirect costs (the fee the agency charges for administering federal grants)
4. Pass the hat around the office
 
2009-12-05 01:35:12 AM
Jakevol2: so everyone deserves an office party except social workers? There is probably a fund in the budget for that very thing.

Which begs the question of who funds the fund.
 
2009-12-05 02:02:40 AM
$1,400 buys alot of cardboard boxes.
 
2009-12-05 02:02:57 AM
Molavian: Yeah, they spent $1400 of their own money.

On flowers.


THIS
I mean, come on, people, can you really buy that turd of an excuse?

You really believe, without any proof whatsoever, that it's a fact no tax payer money was spent?
Are you global warmers?
 
2009-12-05 02:25:42 AM
rmz: House of Tards: Are there immoral uses for flowers?

"I bought you some posies. Mind if I put them in your dog's urethra?"

Allow me to pinch-hit for gorgor on this one...

http://tinyurl.com/yfsvv4k
(copy and paste, NSFW)


That's an unusual dog you have there. What breed is it?
Belgian Fourchette?
 
2009-12-05 02:26:33 AM
I feel like nobody here has ever bought flowers for anything like this before. I've personally seen $200 for some incredibly modest flowers. It just doesn't strike me as a huge amount. Not to mention, even if it were tax money, who gives a flying fark how they spend their Christmas party budget.
 
2009-12-05 03:54:28 AM
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/Ya dropped this, subby.
 
2009-12-05 05:36:34 AM
Manfred J. Hattan: wejash: No taxpayer money involved?

Check.

And we're done here.

Moving on to real news.

From another article: The statement noted the authority does not use tax money, instead relying on bond sales and fees.

Frankly, I'm much, much, much more concerned that the senior people at WHEDA seem unaware of how bonds get paid off and who generates fees than I am distressed over a possible minor overexpenditure.


This.

My wife does that (has happened several times). The latest was when we had a big argument last month... she wanted to use our Marriott points to give her sister a plane ticket to come visit, because it's somehow "free" and doesn't cost us anything. I pointed out that, when we go on vacation next year we will have to pay cash for our own tickets because we don't have the points anymore.

My wife is a very giving person, cash or not. The analogy to these social workers is very apt... do they really think that just because it's not cash they're giving away that it's somehow not a resource of the taxpayers' and somehow not indirectly equivalent to cash???
 
2009-12-05 05:46:46 AM
Sounds more like "moran" purposes.
 
2009-12-05 07:25:13 AM
What was the budget? And how big was the party?
If it was 5 grand and they wanted to burn 1400 on flowers, s'okay by me.
 
2009-12-05 07:32:52 AM
Page B:

I wonder how much money Sen. Glenn Grothman spends on luxuries when he could have donated. What a douche.


Sadly, Wisconsin is kind of like a microcosm of the US. We enjoyed huge budget surpluses, until Republican Governor Tommy Thompson gave it all away in tax rebates for the rich. He then ran off to serve in the Bush cabinet and left us deep in red ink. The populated counties are solidly Blue, but the podunks are as Red as anything down in Alabama. There are still just enough Republicans peeing in the pool to keep us from making any progress for the better. Instead of complaining about spending money for social projects, it would be so simple to raise the income tax 1% on the highest 2%. That is a non-starter.
 
2009-12-05 01:11:49 PM
Molavian: Yeah, they spent $1400 of their own money.

On flowers.


A. It wouldn't be that difficult to audit them to figure out if their own or taxpayer money was spent.

B. Haven't bought flowers lately, have you? Depending on the number, style, and type of arrangements, plus the kind of flowers and other items used, $1400 may not be that much.
 
2009-12-05 02:48:58 PM
Just give the money to Planned Parenthood. Check back in 25 years to see how your homeless population is doing.

/ounce of prevention
 
2009-12-05 10:03:52 PM
Jakevol2: thenateman: Since they didn't use tax money, how do we think they paid for it:

1. User fees / permitting fees
2. Indirect costs (the fee the agency charges for administering federal grants)
4. Pass the hat around the office

so everyone deserves an office party except social workers? There is probably a fund in the budget for that very thing.


Most companies don't do office parties anymore. If anything most might do a pot luck and give you an extra 30 minutes on your lunch break that day.
 
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