The_Sponge: As much as the TSA rent-a-cops annoy me, I would hate to see them go on strike. Imagine that shiatstorm hitting all of our airports.

It wouldn't be any different than the air traffic controllers. They go on strike they'll probably won't have a job the next day.

UAW! UAW! UAW!

Hopman: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: They were going to onionize, but who knew that this information would leek out so soon?

That's bad, but funny.
I don't have a problem with the TSA workers unionizing. I worked at and airport a couple of years ago (MHT in Manchester, NH) for a newsstand. I dealt with the TSA folks on a regular basis, and they're good folks.


Somehow I think "good folks" turns into "highly resentful and drunk on power" when they cease to view you as a peer.

misanthropic1: Hopman: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: They were going to onionize, but who knew that this information would leek out so soon?

That's bad, but funny.
I don't have a problem with the TSA workers unionizing. I worked at and airport a couple of years ago (MHT in Manchester, NH) for a newsstand. I dealt with the TSA folks on a regular basis, and they're good folks.


Somehow I think "good folks" turns into "highly resentful and drunk on power" when they cease to view you as a peer.

Perhaps you have studied the Zimbardo Stanford Prison Experiment.....nah I am sure that was wholy your own original idea.

The_Sponge: just like Reagan and the air traffic controllers.

Controller #3: Get me Steve McCroskey!
Controller #2: Are you kidding? Ever since Reagan fired the air traffic controllers, he's been completely senile!
Controller #3: Yeah, but what about McCroskey?
Controller #2: About the same as Reagan.

KarmicDisaster: I'm sorry sir, but union regs require 4 TSA officers and no lube for your cavity search.

That sounds like an occupational hazard. For the TSA officers.

/I just had an idea... plastic or titanium anus dentatus for those days when the TSA isn't satisfied with the shoes...
//'scuse me while I run to the patent office.

Can the TSA union collectively agree to stop stealing my goddamn Leatherman tools? I need a new one every time I fly goddamnit.

Hopman: That's bad, but funny.

Thanks!

I've got a million onion puns and allium are funny.

:-/

/ba
//dum
///cha?

Thenixon: Can the TSA union collectively agree to stop stealing my goddamn Leatherman tools? I need a new one every time I fly goddamnit.

You know what the definition if insanity is? Doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result.

Unions are fine when they are used to combat an obvious wrong. But ever since all the labor reforms in the US, a lot of unions have become redundant.

A mistreated employee can now sue his or her employer for ridiculously large amounts of money with no help from a union. And as long as it's financially infeasible to mistreat employees, no one has to walk out to force the employer to stop doing it. Collective bargaining solves a problem that simply doesn't exist anymore for the most part.

So what happens if the union strikes? No screening, or no air travel?

What's worse than a bunch of douchebags with virtually unlimited power to harass and piss me off? A unionzed bunch of douchebags with virtually unlimited power to harass and piss me off.

The Angry Hand of God: Thenixon: Can the TSA union collectively agree to stop stealing my goddamn Leatherman tools? I need a new one every time I fly goddamnit.

You know what the definition if insanity is? Doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result.

insanity-noun, plural -ties.
1. the condition of being insane; a derangement of the mind.
2. Law. such unsoundness of mind as affects legal responsibility or capacity.
3. Psychiatry. (formerly) psychosis.
4. extreme folly; senselessness; foolhardiness

/jus sayin

The Angry Hand of God: You know what the definition if insanity is? Doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result.


That sounds like quantum physics.

Non-evil Monkey: A mistreated employee can now sue his or her employer for ridiculously large amounts of money with no help from a union.

But lawsuits don't help workers get things that aren't legally required but come in handy as bargaining chips -- everyone knows the big-ticket reasons to have unions, but there's a lot more under-the-radar stuff that the union can request.

It's really nice to have an official conduit between labor and management to buffer individuals from getting on each other's nerves for asking for things too often.

If they unionize, part of that agreement should be to mandate proficiency standards and keep GrandMa & GrandPa Lumpia out of SFO.

And don't forget cousin Rudy too.

Aren't they supposed to be law enforcement? What's next, letting the FBI unionize? She has to be the biggest farking bull dyke in the world judging from that picture.

yeah because nothing solves financial problems like being forced to pay a lot more for your workers. This won't affect prices or stability of the company at all. Union wages are only paid as long as the company is afloat.

Stand outside an airport with a wicker basket, with sign that says
It put's the lotion in the basket

Smart terrorists could get through airport security with fake boarding passes and all manner of prohibited items, as the author of this article did with ease.



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As much as unions generally suck, I can actually see some good potentially coming out of this. The union telling the TSA higher-ups to get rid of stupid shiat like the liquids ban would be far more effective than some lone TSA goon telling them (not that I think any TSA goons have actually done that).

iollow: So what happens if the union strikes? No screening, or no air travel?


They probably wouldn't strike. Everyone would just start working half speed. I mean 3/4 speed. Half speed for the TSA is reverse.

OscarTamerz: Aren't they supposed to be law enforcement? What's next, letting the FBI unionize? She has to be the biggest farking bull dyke in the world judging from that picture.

Most of them are Jack Bauer wannabes, although in reality they have no more power than a mall cop.

Tingle007: yeah because nothing solves financial problems like being forced to pay a lot more for your workers. This won't affect prices or stability of the company at all. Union wages are only paid as long as the company is afloat.

If one business has to pay more than other businesses for its labor, it may go out of business, and there is no global economic benefit. But if every business has to pay a higher wage, there is no competitive disadvantage and consumer spending goes up. Funny how that works, no?

fartacus: Now let's all recite the union mantra: "ain't my jerb"

Remind me how being able to say "that ain't my job" when it ain't your job is a bad thing?

If they go on strike, that means we can get past security in 3 minutes.

Zagloba: Tingle007: yeah because nothing solves financial problems like being forced to pay a lot more for your workers. This won't affect prices or stability of the company at all. Union wages are only paid as long as the company is afloat.

If one business has to pay more than other businesses for its labor, it may go out of business, and there is no global economic benefit. But if every business has to pay a higher wage, there is no competitive disadvantage and consumer spending goes up. Funny how that works, no?

$50 minimum wage for all! No more working poor!

ramblin: $50 minimum wage for all! No more working poor!

Go back to DiffEq until you get the concept of "local maximum" through your head.

You all miss the main purpose of a government union these days: to extract pay and benefits that are far beyond what can be found in the private sector, and to biatch and wail that it still isn't enough. California's a good example of where that'll take you.

Hates the middle class subby does.

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You done vomiting your brain out yet?

Snarfangel: Without a union, the TSA will be at the mercy of the government.

And this is bad how? The TSA is a sick joke that shouldn't exist.

Zagloba: fartacus: Now let's all recite the union mantra: "ain't my jerb"

Remind me how being able to say "that ain't my job" when it ain't your job is a bad thing?

Boss: Plug in your extension cord for your power tools and get this machine fixed.
Union: Can't do that. Plugging in the extension cord is electrician work. The electrician won't be here for another couple hours so I'm going to take a nap until he gets here to plug in the extension cord.

Them TSA boys better take to their heels when they hear those
anii dentatii...begin...making...chewing...noises.

/chew crunch grind slurp chew
//probly using wrong plural form
///don't care, I'm getting the hell outta here before it bites me...!!
////not TSA
//not a boy either
//slashies

The_Sponge: As much as the TSA rent-a-cops annoy me, I would hate to see them go on strike. Imagine that shiatstorm hitting all of our airports.

I know. shiat might actually run on time and people might be pleasant. I don't think I could deal with that.

So what happens if they decide to strike? Do the airports default to shutting down, to staying open and letting everyone through, or does the government just say STFU and GBTW?

This is very similar to what bothers me about the local fire and police departments. They're unionized, yet an essential facet of modern society. If they don't get exactly what they want in their contracts, they strike. If the fire department is striking and a fire breaks out, who is going to put it out? So, as far back as I can remember, they strong-arm the city into junk contracts because the city can't let them strike.

Granted, if the TSA folks strike, grandma will have no trouble blowing up planes with her shoe bombs. We'd better prevent them from unionizing so we can continue to be safe from shoe bombs and 4.1 oz. containers.

"if they did go on strike, I would hope that Obama would fire them....just like Reagan and the air traffic controllers."

I doubt that would happen. He's probably the most pro-union president in history. In his words (or close to his words) ""I've spend my entire adult life working with SEIU. Your goals are my goals."

It's as if the TSA went out and rounded up everybody from the nerd table at your junior high lunchroom and pinned a badge on them.

You can pin a badge on a bunch of major farking retards but that doesn't change the fact they are major farking retards.

The_Sponge: Tunk87: SchlingFocker: What isn't legal here in Texas is to require union membership in order to work in a shop.

For many union supporters, this is tantamount to unions not being legal. I mean, what good is having a union if you can't force everyone to join.


Being forced to join the UFCW when I was 17 sucked donkey balls.

+1 farking this.

OscarTamerz: Aren't they supposed to be law enforcement? What's next, letting the FBI unionize? She has to be the biggest farking bull dyke in the world judging from that picture.

What, you don't think law enforcement has unions? Only time I was ever a member of a union was when I worked for the Sheriff's Dept.