Dreadstar: AMC used to mean "American Movie Classics." I recently saw them airing the recent Starsky and Hutch remake. Therefore I see no reason why any ranking list of theirs should be taken seriously

and TLC aird jon and kate plus 8. your point is?

most all cable channels eventually betry their original mission statement

Mission to Mars belongs on the worst movies in general of the decade list. Any movie where Dr. Pepper™ is crucial to the crew's survival is farking retarded.

Shostie: Say what you will about that movie, but that sequence at the end with Yoda was f*cking awesome.

Ordinarily, I try to stay out of "this was awesome/no wai, it wasn't awesome!" arguments, since I usually find it ridiculous to argue about enjoyment of something from person to person.

However, in this case, allow me to register a "NO WAI," sir. That is, if you are indeed referring to the scene where CGI Spinning Yoda attacks Space Saruman. To me, it was a further low point to that horrible farking movie rather than something that would have justified sitting through it.

Worst? Yes

Bad? No

/impossible to make bad scifi

Oh God, Red Planet.

"Oh my God, we can breathe on Mars."

Roll credits.

DjangoStonereaver: Diogenes: "It's hard to top a Roland Emmerich disaster flick for bad science..."

Maybe that's because they're more "disaster" and less "science" by design? He's this generation's Irwin Allen.

And how did The Day the Earth Stood Still slip through the criteria?

An embarassment of riches.

/Even at his best, Scalzi is an insufferable prick.



Scalzi makes me laugh, and his books are clever and entertaining. Did he come over to your house and eat all your turkey on Thanksgiving or something?

Good choices, but I probably would've tried to find a spot for 300.

I agree about the spinning CGI Yoda. From seeing him in ESB I always assumed his Jedi powers were above 9000 and he could pretty much kill someone with his brain. I liked the Yoda on the Clone Wars cartoon much better, where he was shown basically tossing Trade Alliance ships around with a wave of his hands. The Prequels just killed the picture I had in my head of Yoda being such a badass he didn't even need a light saber to end you.

Those are all pretty bad movies. I've seen them all but AVP2 and Doom. Man, I suck. It doesn't make it any better that I caught most of them online or on TV, either. I've got a thing for watching brainless movies on certain nights, but I'm not proud of it. It hurts my soul. Æon Flux was probably in the top 5 worst movies I have ever seen. The sad thing is, I knew just about all these things would suck before I even saw them. But that didn't stop me. Hell, just tonight I downloaded and viewed Wolverine. Oh, god, someone get me the help I need.

Cagey B: Shostie: Say what you will about that movie, but that sequence at the end with Yoda was f*cking awesome.

Ordinarily, I try to stay out of "this was awesome/no wai, it wasn't awesome!" arguments, since I usually find it ridiculous to argue about enjoyment of something from person to person.

However, in this case, allow me to register a "NO WAI," sir. That is, if you are indeed referring to the scene where CGI Spinning Yoda attacks Space Saruman. To me, it was a further low point to that horrible farking movie rather than something that would have justified sitting through it.

Wuddya mean? Was that or was that not the BEST Gremlins movie EVER?!

/Wants a new Gremlins movie, dagnabit!

I just watched Transformers 2 the other night. What a godawful piece of shiat. Michael Bay should be drawn and quartered.

The English Major: brigid_fitch: Hell, even The Weather Channel is showing movies now. I saw an ad for Wizard of Oz as one of their "Weather-related" movies.

Good god. It's where Sci-Fi channel original movies go to die.
And Twister.

A couple weeks ago they were showing Misery on TWC. because, you know, there's snow in it.

Mission to Mars is the ONLY movie I've ever seen my wife stand up during the credits and say, "Well that sucked!".

I think the problem with Terminator and Aliens/Predator movies is that the originals were so badass and cool, there's no way any movie could make up for that.

Newbaca: Good choices, but I probably would've tried to find a spot for 300.

I'm pretty sure a movie set in Ancient Greece doesn't count as science fiction.

vygramul: I bet Gamer Grrrl has attended a sci fi convention and has first-hand experience.

Nah, the only con I've ever been to is GenCon, and Scalzi doesn't think that's an appropriate venue for his books for some reason. But I have corresponded with him via email a few times, and he seems to be a nice guy.

/What's your opinion of Doctorow?

I've only read Little Brother, which I thought was great. My husband's read a couple of his non-fiction books and liked them. Doctorow seems to have his head screwed on straight regarding digital media, but other than that, I have no opinion of him personality-wise.

robomonkster: The English Major: brigid_fitch: Hell, even The Weather Channel is showing movies now. I saw an ad for Wizard of Oz as one of their "Weather-related" movies.

Good god. It's where Sci-Fi channel original movies go to die.
And Twister.

A couple weeks ago they were showing Misery on TWC. because, you know, there's snow in it.

They can only show Twister so many times

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Shostie: SpaceyCat: Having just retortured myself with the Star Wars abortions, I gave a huge belly laugh for the description of Attack of the Clones.

/still think Anakin should be beaten with a 2x4 with rusty nails

Say what you will about that movie, but that sequence at the end with Yoda was f*cking awesome.

Granted, we had to sit through all that garbage to get there, but still.

Star Wars, all 6, has turned into one of those things that the more I think about it in retrospect, the worse it becomes.

I-III were so bad they actually hinder my ability to enjoy IV-VI.

Gamer Grrrl: I-III were so bad they actually hinder my ability to enjoy IV-VI.

That's not surprising considering that they actually went to the trouble to fark with the older movies after the fact to reference the shiatty new ones.

whoa...avp 2 was so cut throat.
/I loved it.