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(Irish Times) Asinine Cardinal says homosexuals can't enter heaven. What, not even by the back-door?   (irishtimes.com) divider line 515
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2009-12-03 01:21:54 AM
Well, there goes half the priesthood....
 
2009-12-03 07:45:32 AM
It's always fascinating when a priest goes against the Vatican and is rebuffed. It suggests that you can only actually trust a priest's interpretation of the Bible and God when he's parroting the words of the Vatican. In other words, he's not an intermediary with your god, but rather just an echo of the Vatican.

It makes me wonder why you'd need any training to be a priest at all; you could just have an encyclopedia written by the Vatican.
 
2009-12-03 08:28:16 AM
if you are going to call loving someone a sin...let he who has no sin...cast the first stone.

-this is why christianity can't have nice things.
 
2009-12-03 08:35:30 AM
That's OK, Jehova's Witnesses think he won't enter it either.
 
2009-12-03 09:05:35 AM
...so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...
 
2009-12-03 09:11:07 AM
How do they think the gates got pearly in the first place?
 
2009-12-03 09:28:05 AM
Repent! (new window)
 
2009-12-03 09:44:04 AM
 
2009-12-03 09:44:57 AM
Isn't the whole "don't be gay" thing right next to the "don't have pre-marital sex or commit adultery" things? So pretty much the only people in heaven will be nuns and the seven priests throughout history who weren't pedophiles. Nice system they have going there.
 
2009-12-03 09:54:07 AM
What if I think I might have an invitation?
 
2009-12-03 09:54:11 AM
Mugato: So pretty much the only people in heaven will be nuns

I've had pre-marital sex with a nun, she wasn't a nun at the time but she is now. I was a little hurt that I was so bad that she swore off sex forever, but I'm over it now.
 
2009-12-03 09:57:10 AM
That's funny.
 
2009-12-03 09:57:46 AM
DslainteC: How do they think the gates got pearly in the first place?

hey-oh!
 
2009-12-03 09:57:57 AM
Why yes because that's what Jesus would do............
Really the Catholic "church" should just STFU.

Wonder if pedophiles can get into heaven............
 
2009-12-03 09:58:44 AM
But can the priests who molested alter boys and young congregants get in? Because if they're there I'm not so sure I want in to this "heaven" of theirs.
 
2009-12-03 09:58:46 AM
Everyone goes to heaven.
 
2009-12-03 09:58:54 AM
Who cares what it said, I'm just excited that we found a talking bird!
 
2009-12-03 09:59:09 AM
EvilEgg: I've had pre-marital sex with a nun, she wasn't a nun at the time but she is now. I was a little hurt that I was so bad that she swore off sex forever, but I'm over it now.

Either everyone is lying about having sex with a nun before she took her vows... or I'm the only one who hasn't.

That said, I think I've seen only 1 or 2 under 50 my entire life so no loss there.
 
2009-12-03 09:59:17 AM
DslainteC: How do they think the gates got pearly in the first place?

Bra-farking-vo.
 
2009-12-03 09:59:34 AM
Seems to me, if there was a heaven, it would be an awfully lonely place. Can you fap in heaven?
 
2009-12-03 10:00:10 AM
Well isn't that FABULOUS!

/everyone is going where they go.
 
2009-12-03 10:00:21 AM
I agree with the Cardinal. Tolerance and forgiveness have no place in Christianity.
 
2009-12-03 10:00:22 AM
Who cares what a football player from Arizona has to say about gay marriage?
 
2009-12-03 10:00:25 AM
Mugato: Isn't the whole "don't be gay" thing right next to the "don't have pre-marital sex or commit adultery" things? So pretty much the only people in heaven will be nuns and the seven priests throughout history who weren't pedophiles. Nice system they have going there.

Well, some nuns. Many nuns-historically-find a bit of action within the convent.


So if all heaven has are preachy cardinals like this douche, send me straight to hell with my heathen brothers and sisters... I guarantee they have better guac down there anyway.
 
2009-12-03 10:00:43 AM
EvilEgg: Mugato: So pretty much the only people in heaven will be nuns

I've had pre-marital sex with a nun, she wasn't a nun at the time but she is now. I was a little hurt that I was so bad that she swore off sex forever, but I'm over it now.


I'm hip buddy, I'm hip. I had a girl turn lesbian on me once. Course, she was a stripper so she was probably a lesbian already.
 
2009-12-03 10:01:22 AM
Diogenes: What if I think I might have an invitation?

To be homosexual or go to heaven?

weatherwitch666: Wonder if pedophiles can get into heaven............

As long as they're not gay. Or divorced. Or adulterers.
 
2009-12-03 10:01:24 AM
But I'm sure with 7-Hail Marys and a large cash donation the church will let it pass... wait, forget the Hail Marys.
 
2009-12-03 10:01:52 AM
That's totally gay.
 
2009-12-03 10:02:09 AM
I'm happy to see the Church called his ass out. I think they are wrong to call the actions of two homosexuals in a relationship sinful, but at least they don't consider the people themselves sinful.
 
2009-12-03 10:02:24 AM
Mugato: Isn't the whole "don't be gay" thing right next to the "don't have pre-marital sex or commit adultery" things? So pretty much the only people in heaven will be nuns and the seven priests throughout history who weren't pedophiles. Nice system they have going there.

No, the Bible is pretty clear that we have all sinned. There is none that is blameless, not one. Only by forgiveness can one get into heaven.
 
2009-12-03 10:02:34 AM
DIGITALgimpus: EvilEgg: I've had pre-marital sex with a nun, she wasn't a nun at the time but she is now. I was a little hurt that I was so bad that she swore off sex forever, but I'm over it now.

Either everyone is lying about having sex with a nun before she took her vows... or I'm the only one who hasn't.

That said, I think I've seen only 1 or 2 under 50 my entire life so no loss there.


Yeah, I was raised catholic and I never met a nun that wasn't older than my mom.
 
2009-12-03 10:03:02 AM
horse-pheathers: Well, there goes half the priesthood....

Not too far from the truth. According to Sully, the 1970s Catholic church "saw gay persons as made in the image of God and inherently not sinful, as long as they remained celibate and lived alone their entire lives." Gay people were supposed to become priests back then.
 
2009-12-03 10:04:19 AM
You're the jerk... jerk: No, the Bible is pretty clear that we have all sinned. There is none that is blameless, not one. Only by forgiveness can one get into heaven

So Hannibal Lecter on his death bed can say, "My bad" and get into heaven but Ghandi is going to burn?
 
2009-12-03 10:04:19 AM
Honestly, does anybody care what these horrible people say anymore? They spend billions of dollars paying off the children they molested and then stand on their soapbox and try to dictate to everyone else on how to be "moral." They try and force politicians to vote the way they tell them to, and then punish them when they don't. In DC they promised to yank their support of sick and homeless people unless the government promised not to allow gay marriage. In Maine, they spent 150K to try and ban gay marriage, which is money that could have been MUCH better spent healing the sick and needy.

It's not just the Catholics, but almost ALL Christian groups that have become nothing more than money-making political parties. They should be taxed like any other business
 
2009-12-03 10:04:23 AM
FTFA: The Catholic Church teaches that homosexual acts are sinful but homosexuality in itself is not.

This perplexes me.

It's okay to be gay, just as long as you don't do anything gay?
 
2009-12-03 10:04:35 AM
lennavan: But can the priests who molested alter boys and young congregants get in? Because if they're there I'm not so sure I want in to this "heaven" of theirs.

Well, if they are truly remorseful for their actions, the Church believes you can be. Hell, I'm one of those people who believe that if Hitler is realized how horrible he was and repented, he'd go to Heaven.
 
2009-12-03 10:04:38 AM
I think homosexuals have just as much of a chance as the cardinal to enter a make believe paradise.
 
2009-12-03 10:04:49 AM
horse-pheathers: Well, there goes half the priesthood....

Anyone in any religion who thinks so much about religious issues that they become factotums (rabbis, imams, monks, priests, pastors, etc) in that religion have sexual issues.

They're generally creeps who cover it up with a smooth manner. Often, they're dangerous types who cover it up with a smooth manner.

The most revealing thing I ever read is the hilarious essay by Jonathan Swift called, "On the Mechanical Operations of the Spirit." It should be required reading in English-speaking schools. You'll never trust one of those swine -- the clergy -- ever again.
 
2009-12-03 10:05:28 AM
THERE IS NO HEAVEN. ITS A TRAP!
 
2009-12-03 10:05:44 AM
offacue: Seems to me, if there was a heaven, it would be an awfully lonely place. Can you fap in heaven?

No. It kills kittens. No killing kittens in heaven.
 
2009-12-03 10:07:10 AM
slackux: FTFA: The Catholic Church teaches that homosexual acts are sinful but homosexuality in itself is not.

This perplexes me.

It's okay to be gay, just as long as you don't do anything gay?


Well, even THEY couldn't be that hateful. So, they say, "Be gay as long as you never have love in your life, and spend it as miserable, celibate, and lonely as our priests are supposed to." How generous!
 
2009-12-03 10:08:03 AM
I thought Miami Beach was gay heaven?
 
2009-12-03 10:08:16 AM
ChrisSuperstar: slackux: FTFA: The Catholic Church teaches that homosexual acts are sinful but homosexuality in itself is not.

This perplexes me.

It's okay to be gay, just as long as you don't do anything gay?

Well, even THEY couldn't be that hateful. So, they say, "Be gay as long as you never have love in your life, and spend it as miserable, celibate, and lonely as our priests are supposed to." How generous!


It isn't generous. It's religion.
 
2009-12-03 10:08:18 AM
~What about homosexuals who haven't had sex yet?
~What about people who are homosexuals pretending to be straight?
~People who have been married for 20 years with a woman, but had sex with a dude once?
~Bisexuals?
~People born with both parts where the doctor cut the wrong part off, where society views them as one thing, they were half born another way?
~What if you were raped and accidentally got a boner..but not because you're gay, but because the prostate stimulation caused a biological reaction?
 
2009-12-03 10:08:25 AM
pd771: I'm happy to see the Church called his ass out. I think they are wrong to call the actions of two homosexuals in a relationship sinful, but at least they don't consider the people themselves sinful.

Homosexual acts are sinful... JUST LIKE
Premarital Sex...
Getting Drunk...
Flogging Small Animals...
Flogging YOUR Small Animal...
Gluttony... Pride... Avarice... etc.
ARE ALL SINFUL.

It is impossible for a man(woman) to enter heaven, for all have fallen short of the glory of God. (Notice the emphasis on ALL, Popes, Cardinals, Protestants, ALL). But through Christ ALL things are possible, even for a sinner to enter heaven? All things are possible. Even for a homosexual to enter heaven? All things are possible. Jesus called us to be witnesses (through service and acceptance and tolerance) not judges.

/off the soapbox, thanks for indulging me.
 
2009-12-03 10:08:26 AM
Ponzholio
But I'm sure with 7-Hail Marys and a large cash donation the church will let it pass... wait, forget the Hail Marys.

THIS

/It's the best religion money can buy
 
2009-12-03 10:08:32 AM
Gee. Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel, and was gay.
Leonardo painted The Last Supper. He was gay.

So many writers, artists, architects, musicians, etc. who created works for the Catholic Church were gay.
None of them got to "heaven" despite what they did for the glory of the church?

Boy, that's a shame.
 
2009-12-03 10:08:53 AM
I have yet to meet a bishop (and very few priests) who struck me as "masculine." I mean, like a guy that reeks of testosterone and would cause me to wonder about the safety of the women-folk.

They either seem overtly homosexual or bizarrely asexual.
 
2009-12-03 10:09:25 AM
mofomisfit: DIGITALgimpus: EvilEgg: I've had pre-marital sex with a nun, she wasn't a nun at the time but she is now. I was a little hurt that I was so bad that she swore off sex forever, but I'm over it now.

Either everyone is lying about having sex with a nun before she took her vows... or I'm the only one who hasn't.

That said, I think I've seen only 1 or 2 under 50 my entire life so no loss there.

Yeah, I was raised catholic and I never met a nun that wasn't older than my mom.


Same here.

/Raised Catholic.
//Went through grades K-8 in a Catholic school.
///Oh yes, there were nuns.
////Every single one was at least in their 50's.
//Pretty much left the church at 16, mainly due to the political bullshiat that goes on within the hierarchy.
 
2009-12-03 10:09:27 AM
A Cardinal said that? really cause they have about the gayest mascot in pro sports. I mean I could see a Raider or Viking saying that, maybe even a Patriot, but not a Cardinal.
 
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