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(The Virginian Pilot) Followup Advisory to Maersk Alabama: "Stay 600 miles offshore." Capt. Phillips to crew: "Belay that; 350 miles is good enough."   (hamptonroads.com) divider line 83
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2009-12-02 06:20:09 PM
Crewmen disagreeing with the captain? Color me stunned, Admiral Obvious.
 
2009-12-02 07:03:42 PM
i think richard phillips is a pretty cool guy. eh fights pirates and doesn't afraid of anything
 
2009-12-02 07:29:08 PM
He blew off the warnings. Alas,
He soon found it coming to pass
That pirates be messin'.
Let that be a lesson
When buccaneers come for your ass.
 
2009-12-02 08:48:34 PM
Uncharted waters?

3.bp.blogspot.com

Understands
 
2009-12-02 08:48:56 PM
www.observer.com

approves
 
2009-12-02 08:49:54 PM
Belay.

Fantastic word. Belay...
 
2009-12-02 08:50:01 PM
I'm actually rather impressed the pirates could pull off something like that so far from shore.

Perhaps I shouldn't be, but that seems pretty good.
 
2009-12-02 08:50:22 PM
community.eu.playstation.com
 
2009-12-02 08:51:21 PM
Belay that remark! Your Amy knows my Leela? I have formed an idea!
 
2009-12-02 08:52:04 PM
I can't believe pirates still exist outside of the internet.
 
2009-12-02 08:54:55 PM
dillo

Hannity/Yog-sothoth? I never pegged him for a liberal.
 
2009-12-02 08:56:41 PM
siagis: I can't believe pirates still exist outside of the internet.

Haven't you seen? Real life buttpirates are trying to hijack marriage
 
2009-12-02 08:57:02 PM
I thought the headline said stay 600 miles off the coast of Alabama...no way 350 miles is enough!
 
2009-12-02 08:58:45 PM
graphics.nytimes.com

Don't worry, he knows a few maneuvers.
 
2009-12-02 08:58:50 PM
Also, its his fault because he was wearing a tight sweater.
 
2009-12-02 09:02:31 PM

Maybe the ship should have had the Proclaimers as co-captains, and they would have picked the right amount of miles to be safe.


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2009-12-02 09:03:18 PM
siagis: I can't believe pirates still exist outside of the internet.

img2.allposters.com

/hotlinked
 
2009-12-02 09:05:45 PM
link is farked
 
2009-12-02 09:05:59 PM
www.digital-digest.com

/hot
 
2009-12-02 09:06:30 PM
This is like blaming the victim of a car jacking because they should have known not to drive through a black neighborhood at night.
 
2009-12-02 09:12:22 PM
JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: This is like blaming the victim of a car jacking because they should have known not to drive through a black neighborhood at night.

Not really.
It's like blaming the victim of a carjacking because they were repeatedly warned not to drive through a neighborhood where numerous carjackings have occurred recently and carjackers have explicitly stated that they plan to carjack more vehicles soon, but who decided to drive through that neighborhood anyway, in someone else's car with several passengers in their care, and a back seat full of other peoples' valuables.

Or something like that.
 
2009-12-02 09:12:36 PM
600 kilometers = 372.822715 miles

/obvious.
//from a Canadian perspective.
 
2009-12-02 09:13:14 PM
RanDomino: dillo

Hannity/Yog-sothoth? I never pegged him for a liberal.


I was referring more towards the Angry Gorilla from Autotune the News in the picture.
It was not my intention to suggest that Hannity spontaneously went liberal.
 
2009-12-02 09:13:22 PM
JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: This is like blaming the victim of a car jacking because they should have known not to drive through a black neighborhood at night.

Why so stereotypical?

media.nowpublic.net

(hot)
 
2009-12-02 09:13:40 PM
simpsonfan: International waters, only blame belongs to the pirates.

A letter to the Editor in the Los Angeles Daily News today suggested using PT boats as escorts. Fast, small, able to chase down pirates, kill them.


Three words for you: Q-Ship Tourism.
 
2009-12-02 09:17:02 PM
Witchydiva: /hot

Best described by the NY Times as "a relatively high-budget story of a group of ragtag sailors who go searching for a crew of evil pirates who have a plan for world domination. Also, many of the characters in the movie have sex with one another."
 
2009-12-02 09:17:06 PM
First of all the captain is responsible for the safety of the ship and its crew. But he is also responsible for minimizing operating costs and staying on schedule. Those two responsibilities sometimes work against each other. Get too cautious and you'll lose your job because you can't maintain the profit margin. Take too many chances and you unnecessarily risk the safety of the ship and crew and you'll lose your job. It's a tough call sometimes. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
 
2009-12-02 09:20:58 PM
JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: This is like blaming the victim of a car jacking rape because they should have known not to drive through a black neighborhood at nightwere asking for it.

FTFY
 
2009-12-02 09:24:24 PM
What a pirate might look like:
static.tvguide.com
 
2009-12-02 09:27:49 PM
FTA: "I want you to report that I had no comment," he said.

Does the journalist concede?

FTA: Phillips said he could not answer every "spurious accusation" and that he expected such criticism. But I don't wish to say anything.

The AP: A real class act. Not.
 
2009-12-02 09:29:41 PM
angelslogic: Belay.

Fantastic word. Belay...


images4.wikia.nocookie.net

Beeellaaayyy tthattt phaasserrr orrrrdderrrrr
 
2009-12-02 09:30:46 PM
If he is in international waters, he can run that ship wherever he damn well pleases. The advisory should say it's dangerous anywhere in that area.
 
2009-12-02 09:35:42 PM
Perducci: It's like blaming the victim of a carjacking because they were repeatedly warned not to drive through a neighborhood where numerous carjackings have occurred recently and carjackers have explicitly stated that they plan to carjack more vehicles soon...

So, in other words... don't drive through black neighborhoods.
 
2009-12-02 09:37:48 PM
Tom-Servo: Perducci: It's like blaming the victim of a carjacking because they were repeatedly warned not to drive through a neighborhood where numerous carjackings have occurred recently and carjackers have explicitly stated that they plan to carjack more vehicles soon...

So, in other words... don't drive through black neighborhoods.


Especially at night because unless they are smiling they are hard to see.
 
2009-12-02 09:38:17 PM
Any number of miles involving three digits seems like a lot, considering these pirates are operating out of small boats. Can you imagine sitting out there almost 400 miles from shore just hoping you see a ship somewhere on the horizon?
 
2009-12-02 09:39:09 PM
angelslogic: Belay.

Fantastic word. Belay...


Clearly he thought that if he could belay the warnings, he could certainly rappel pirates.
 
2009-12-02 09:40:13 PM
simpsonfan: International waters, only blame belongs to the pirates.

A letter to the Editor in the Los Angeles Daily News today suggested using PT boats as escorts. Fast, small, able to chase down pirates, kill them.


Wrong weapons for the job entirely. PT boats are designed to deliver *ONE* very heavy punch and run away.

Here's a modern equivalent:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/1242.htm

Note that it's primary weapons are anti-ship missiles. It's got a couple of guns that would do against pirates but this isn't the right unit for the job at all.

For a better unit for the job look at the Coast Guard cutters. The more heavily armed ones have the guns to do the job and can do things like fire warning shots, something a PT boat can't.
 
2009-12-02 09:44:03 PM
simpsonfan: International waters, only blame belongs to the pirates.

A letter to the Editor in the Los Angeles Daily News today suggested using PT boats as escorts. Fast, small, able to chase down pirates, kill them.


There's a company that does that. (new window) The Straits of Malacca are really badly infested with pirates. This is the company that issued the warnings, and a lot of maritimers with experience in the Singapore region take those issues very seriously. As do the insurance companies.
 
2009-12-02 09:44:38 PM
This from a previous piracy thread...

CIWS
 
2009-12-02 09:47:11 PM
Witchydiva: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: This is like blaming the victim of a car jacking because they should have known not to drive through a black neighborhood at night.

Why so stereotypical?



(hot)


Because I am not one to let petty stereotypes dictate where or when I drive... But then again two rounds of Federal #4 .410 handgun followed by three rounds of .45LC tends to give confidence when facing the prospect of a carjacking.

/Are those African Albinos?
 
2009-12-02 09:48:04 PM
I belayed your mom last night.
 
2009-12-02 09:51:38 PM
mantrum: This from a previous piracy thread...

CIWS


Cock In Wench's Slit?
 
2009-12-02 10:03:38 PM
blog.usni.org


/hot, like the lead he slings
 
2009-12-02 10:06:55 PM
i82.photobucket.com
 
2009-12-02 10:11:12 PM
Rodddxl: FTA: "I want you to report that I had no comment," he said.

Does the journalist concede?

FTA: Phillips said he could not answer every "spurious accusation" and that he expected such criticism. But I don't wish to say anything.

The AP: A real class act. Not.


He didn't say "No comment." He said a bunch more, then tried to take it back, apparently. Reporters generally don't work that way, nor do most people.

Say you're in a room with a detective and you say, "So, yes, I did kill my parents, and I'm glad I did. They were destroying my life. Wait, can I take that back?" ... What do you think the detective will say?

/the more you know
//pencil pusher
 
2009-12-02 10:19:55 PM
So he had seven warnings advising him to take a longer route. In the previous week he probably also had twenty e-mails from Accounting and a dozen satellite-phone reminders from the company CEO, all telling him to do whatever it takes to shave a few days off the trip, or they'd cancel his bonus and dock his pay.

Not saying he made the right decision, but who do you listen to in that postion? Some safety groups, or the guy that's signing your paycheques and covering your health insurance?
 
2009-12-02 10:28:53 PM
Resonant: So he had seven warnings advising him to take a longer route. In the previous week he probably also had twenty e-mails from Accounting and a dozen satellite-phone reminders from the company CEO, all telling him to do whatever it takes to shave a few days off the trip, or they'd cancel his bonus and dock his pay.

Not saying he made the right decision, but who do you listen to in that postion? Some safety groups, or the guy that's signing your paycheques and covering your health insurance?


archfenrier.files.wordpress.com

"Iceberg? No, I didn't get any iceberg warnings. Not me."
 
2009-12-02 10:29:07 PM
stucka: He didn't say "No comment." He said a bunch more, then tried to take it back, apparently. Reporters generally don't work that way, nor do most people.


It's really a wonderful job
For fellows like George, Abe and me, too
It's great to shake hands with the mod
And hold every kid on your knee, too
Ev'ry word that I speak goes into the headlines
When I speak all the papers hold their deadlines
But I've found a way of dropping a hint
Or a glint of the truth
That the boys cannot print
For instance...
For instance...

When I was only a governor and just a good-time Charlie
A certain party came to me - he said his name was Farley
Don't print it
It's strictly off the record
He sat right down and talked to me till I was in a stupor
And ended up by selling me the works of Fenimore Cooper
Don't print it
It's strictly off the record
I said, "you're quite a salesman
You've been sent here by the fates
If you can sell these dreary books
Which ev'rybody hates
Then maybe you can sell me the whole United States!"
But that's off the record

My messages to the Congress are a lot of Boola-boola
I'm not so fond of Bankhead, but I'd love to meet Tallulah
Don't print it
It's strictly off the record
I sit up in my bedroom reading books like Silas Marnner
and Sears and Roebuck catalogues to get away from Garner
Don't print it
It's strictly off the record
If I'm not re-elected and worst comes to the worst
I'll never die of hunger and I'll never die of thirst
I've got one boy with Du Pont and another one with Hearst
But that's off the record

When I go up to Hyde park it is not just for the ride there
It's not that I love Hyde park, but I love to park and hide there
Don't print that
It's strictly off the record
Oh, sing a song of Boulder Dam, but what's a little song worth?
We'll use it to throw razor blades, and maybe Alice Longworth
Don't print it
It's strictly off the record
And now I'd like to talk about some folks I used to know
Mr. John L. Lewis and His famous C.I.O.
"Frankie and Johnnie were sweethearts"
But that's off the record

My speeches on the radio have made me quite a hero
I only have to say "My friends" and stocks go down to zero
Don't print it
It's strictly off the record
The radio officials say that I'm the leading fellow
Jack Benny Can be President and I'll go on for Jell-O
Don't print it
It's strictly off the record
It's pleasant at the White House, but I'll tell you how I feel
The food is something terrible - just sauerkraut and veal
If Eleanor would stay at home I'd get a decent meal
But that's off the record
 
2009-12-02 10:29:38 PM
robobular
Can you imagine sitting out there almost 400 miles from shore just hoping you see a ship somewhere on the horizon?

They don't, actually. They're hired by people who are, essentially, businessmen, who have good intel of everything from ship schedules to crew manifests. They hire the pirates, give them a target and a plan, give them a cut, and even ship them stuff from industrial countries. It's not like it's just a bunch of teenagers with guns and speedboats.
 
2009-12-02 10:29:56 PM
Resonant: So he had seven warnings advising him to take a longer route. In the previous week he probably also had twenty e-mails from Accounting and a dozen satellite-phone reminders from the company CEO, all telling him to do whatever it takes to shave a few days off the trip, or they'd cancel his bonus and dock his pay.

Not saying he made the right decision, but who do you listen to in that postion? Some safety groups, or the guy that's signing your paycheques and covering your health insurance?


Yeeeaaaahhhh....it doesn't work that way. A company threatening to dock pay for not sailing through pirate-infested waters would find itself without any sailors to work for them real quick. And that includes the Phillippinos and Russians.

/besides, sailors don't get bonuses
//hourly pay with guaranteed overtime ftw.
 
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