fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

Hehehehe... you said "playoff"

Old, but relevant again this year.

albo: fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

Penn State isn't BCS bowl eligible unless Iowa suddenly drops past them on the rankings.

albo: fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

Think the Fiesta Bowl would have the stones to put Oregon against Boise State again if the Ducks lose to Oregon State?


/I see what subby did there

icy_one: albo: fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

Penn State isn't BCS bowl eligible unless Iowa suddenly drops past them on the rankings.

Penn State is every bit as eligible for a BCS at-large berth as Iowa is.

PowerSlacker: icy_one: albo: fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

Penn State isn't BCS bowl eligible unless Iowa suddenly drops past them on the rankings.

Penn State is every bit as eligible for a BCS at-large berth as Iowa is.

Eligible? Yes, as they currently sit at #11 in the BCS. Would any bowl game take the #11 team over the #9 team, especially after the year that Iowa had? They should make Penn State go play against Bowden.

I have been waiting for him to change his Gator Bowl projection. Unless something unforeseen happens they are taking FSU-WVA as it will be Bobby Bowden's last game and they would love the press that would bring the bowl.

TCU deserves to play a better team than Georgia Tech.

/Tech is too one dimensional on offense for such a solid TCU defense.

PowerSlacker: Penn State is every bit as eligible for a BCS at-large berth as Iowa is.

True. The problem is that Penn State is terrible. Ultimately I think the BCS will side with the money and we'll end up watching an awful game.

PowerSlacker: icy_one: albo: fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

Penn State isn't BCS bowl eligible unless Iowa suddenly drops past them on the rankings.

Penn State is every bit as eligible for a BCS at-large berth as Iowa is.

Incorrect.

At-Large Eligibility

If there are fewer than 10 automatic qualifiers, then the bowls will select at-large participants to fill the remaining berths. An at-large team is any Football Bowl Subdivision team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:

A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, and
B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings.

No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings.

Penn State is not eligible because Iowa receives the second Big 10 selection.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: PowerSlacker: icy_one: albo: fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

Penn State isn't BCS bowl eligible unless Iowa suddenly drops past them on the rankings.

Penn State is every bit as eligible for a BCS at-large berth as Iowa is.

Eligible? Yes, as they currently sit at #11 in the BCS. Would any bowl game take the #11 team over the #9 team, especially after the year that Iowa had? They should make Penn State go play against Bowden.

Ask Missouri about their 2008 Orange Bowl experience...

I've been reading a lot lately about the possibility of a Alabama/Florida rematch in the NC game if Texas loses. Supposedly those teams are ranked so much higher in the computers that if Alabama or Florida were to only fall to 3 or 4 in the polls, that they would still get in. I'm sure the voters would make that happen if the game was really close.

icy_one: PowerSlacker: icy_one: albo: fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

Penn State isn't BCS bowl eligible unless Iowa suddenly drops past them on the rankings.

Penn State is every bit as eligible for a BCS at-large berth as Iowa is.

Incorrect.
At-Large Eligibility

If there are fewer than 10 automatic qualifiers, then the bowls will select at-large participants to fill the remaining berths. An at-large team is any Football Bowl Subdivision team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:

A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, and
B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings.

No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings.

Penn State is not eligible because Iowa receives the second Big 10 selection.

Iowa isn't guaranteed the second Big 10 selection. Penn State could easily be chosen ahead of Iowa.

icy_one: PowerSlacker: icy_one: albo: fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

Penn State isn't BCS bowl eligible unless Iowa suddenly drops past them on the rankings.

Penn State is every bit as eligible for a BCS at-large berth as Iowa is.

Incorrect.
At-Large Eligibility

If there are fewer than 10 automatic qualifiers, then the bowls will select at-large participants to fill the remaining berths. An at-large team is any Football Bowl Subdivision team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:

A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, and
B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings.

No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings.

Penn State is not eligible because Iowa receives the second Big 10 selection.

Not automatically they don't. A bowl game can still select Penn State over Iowa and then Iowa gets screwed and sent to the Capital One Bowl. But as I said above, it is highly unlikely that a bowl game will choose a lower ranked team from the same conference over a higher ranked team, especially one with Iowa's Cinderella story this year.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Eligible? Yes, as they currently sit at #11 in the BCS. Would any bowl game take the #11 team over the #9 team, especially after the year that Iowa had

of course. bowls have to pay for themselves. iowa fans may travel well, but the TV rankings will tank. PSU is a national draw

GoodyearPimp: PowerSlacker: Penn State is every bit as eligible for a BCS at-large berth as Iowa is.

True. The problem is that Penn State is terrible. Ultimately I think the BCS will side with the money and we'll end up watching an awful game.

So is Iowa.

PowerSlacker: The_Six_Fingered_Man: PowerSlacker: icy_one: albo: fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

Penn State isn't BCS bowl eligible unless Iowa suddenly drops past them on the rankings.

Penn State is every bit as eligible for a BCS at-large berth as Iowa is.

Eligible? Yes, as they currently sit at #11 in the BCS. Would any bowl game take the #11 team over the #9 team, especially after the year that Iowa had? They should make Penn State go play against Bowden.

Ask Missouri about their 2008 Orange Bowl experience...

They shouldn't have lost two games to Kansas' one. They can talk when they win football games. Both State College and Iowa have two losses. In that case, I would venture that the higher ranked team gets picked.

Adams7303: TCU deserves to play a better team than Georgia Tech.

/Tech is too one dimensional on offense for such a solid TCU defense.

Yes, that's right. I've also heard that there is a blueprint on how to stop the offense that doesn't involve injuring Nesbitt.

/What's a defense?

The_Six_Fingered_Man: PowerSlacker: icy_one: albo: fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

Penn State isn't BCS bowl eligible unless Iowa suddenly drops past them on the rankings.

Penn State is every bit as eligible for a BCS at-large berth as Iowa is.

Eligible? Yes, as they currently sit at #11 in the BCS. Would any bowl game take the #11 team over the #9 team, especially after the year that Iowa had? They should make Penn State go play against Bowden.

As big a fan as I am of Penn State, I must agree.

Yes: the team that lost to Iowa in Week 5 is not the team that beat MSU before Thanksgiving.

Yes: PSU's losses are to BCS-eligible teams. Iowa's losses are not (Northwestern?)

Yes: PSU travels well, and is pretty much the reason the Fiesta Bowl is on the map (see: 1987 Fiesta Bowl).

Yes: JoePa.

However, PSU was beaten by Iowa. Iowa is ranked higher. Those kids at Iowa deserve the BCS bid more than PSU does for those two reasons.

Smart PSU fans are booking hotel rooms in Orlando for New Year's right now.

PowerSlacker: Iowa isn't guaranteed the second Big 10 selection. Penn State could easily be chosen ahead of Iowa.

After all of the media coverage this year, the Fiesta bowl would be full retard to take Penn State over the "darling" Hawkeyes.

MTSU v Ohiofark yeah.

Hook 'Em.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: icy_one: PowerSlacker: icy_one: albo: fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

Penn State isn't BCS bowl eligible unless Iowa suddenly drops past them on the rankings.

Penn State is every bit as eligible for a BCS at-large berth as Iowa is.

Incorrect.
At-Large Eligibility

If there are fewer than 10 automatic qualifiers, then the bowls will select at-large participants to fill the remaining berths. An at-large team is any Football Bowl Subdivision team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:

A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, and
B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings.

No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings.

Penn State is not eligible because Iowa receives the second Big 10 selection.

Not automatically they don't. A bowl game can still select Penn State over Iowa and then Iowa gets screwed and sent to the Capital One Bowl. But as I said above, it is highly unlikely that a bowl game will choose a lower ranked team from the same conference over a higher ranked team, especially one with Iowa's Cinderella story this year.

And it looks like the Fiesta Bowl is still going back and forth on it.

Iowa or Penn State

PowerSlacker: albo: fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

Think the Fiesta Bowl would have the stones to put Oregon against Boise State again if the Ducks lose to Oregon State?


/I see what subby did there

As an Oregon fan I would LOVE this.

*only if we don't get the Rose Bowl.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: PowerSlacker: The_Six_Fingered_Man: PowerSlacker: icy_one: albo: fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

Penn State isn't BCS bowl eligible unless Iowa suddenly drops past them on the rankings.

Penn State is every bit as eligible for a BCS at-large berth as Iowa is.

Eligible? Yes, as they currently sit at #11 in the BCS. Would any bowl game take the #11 team over the #9 team, especially after the year that Iowa had? They should make Penn State go play against Bowden.

Ask Missouri about their 2008 Orange Bowl experience...

They shouldn't have lost two games to Kansas' one played Oklahoma twice instead of dodging Oklahoma altogether. They can talk when they win football games. Both State College and Iowa have two losses. In that case, I would venture that the higher ranked team gets picked.

FTFY


Iowa certainly deserves to go ahead of Penn State, but I'm not arguing that point. The reality is that neither team deserves it, but there are only three deserving at-large teams this year (SEC loser, TCU, Boise State).

Thoguh: icy_one: PowerSlacker: Iowa isn't guaranteed the second Big 10 selection. Penn State could easily be chosen ahead of Iowa.

After all of the media coverage this year, the Fiesta bowl would be full retard to take Penn State over the "darling" Hawkeyes.

Besides, Iowa will have Stanzi back. So by inviting Iowa the Fiesta Bowl can ensure themselves lots of turnovers followed by an exciting 4th quarter comeback that ends with a touchdown pass in the final 10 seconds.

That's golden for TV ratings and follow-on DVD sales.

Boise State won't let Iowa hang around that long. The few TVs that tune in would all be off by halftime.

PowerSlacker: Think the Fiesta Bowl would have the stones to put Oregon against Boise State again if the Ducks lose to Oregon State?

If Oregon loses they are not going to be playing in a BCS bowl.

PowerSlacker: Iowa certainly deserves to go ahead of Penn State, but I'm not arguing that point. The reality is that neither team deserves it, but there are only three deserving at-large teams this year (SEC loser, TCU, Boise State).

I believe TCU gets the "non-automatic qualifier" automatic berth, for being the highest ranking conference champion not from the big six conferences. I see the at-larges as Boise State, Iowa/Penn State, Virginia Tech, and Brigham Young. It would be funny to see Iowa AND Penn State overlooked for VT.

albo: fiesta bowl will tank with iowa vs. boise state. if they have to take boise state, they should pick penn state. much better tv ratings and bowl attendance

I think they 'feel' Iowa is a better matchup for BS...I'm sure Penn State would blow them out of the water...

Temple vs. Rutgers - two schools less than an hour apart, playing in Toronto. WTF? The only good story line would be revenge of the Owls.

stappawho: PowerSlacker: Think the Fiesta Bowl would have the stones to put Oregon against Boise State again if the Ducks lose to Oregon State?

If Oregon loses they are not going to be playing in a BCS bowl.

I agree, but they would still be eligible for BCS at-large consideration. It would be hilarious if the Fiesta Bowl flipped the bird to the Big 10 and went with the Oregon-Boise State rematch. It would also be much better for them in terms of TV ratings and media attention.

GMAC (ACC vs. MAC):
Central Michigan vs. Notre Dame
Central Michigan vs. Notre Dame

wat?

You're all forgetting that Pittsburgh is going to beat Cincinnati this weekend and take an automatic bid.

That leaves you with Florida/Alabama loser, Boise, and Cincinnati as your at-larges.

PowerSlacker: Thoguh: icy_one: PowerSlacker: Iowa isn't guaranteed the second Big 10 selection. Penn State could easily be chosen ahead of Iowa.

After all of the media coverage this year, the Fiesta bowl would be full retard to take Penn State over the "darling" Hawkeyes.

Besides, Iowa will have Stanzi back. So by inviting Iowa the Fiesta Bowl can ensure themselves lots of turnovers followed by an exciting 4th quarter comeback that ends with a touchdown pass in the final 10 seconds.

That's golden for TV ratings and follow-on DVD sales.

Boise State won't let Iowa hang around that long. The few TVs that tune in would all be off by halftime.

I don't know...I watched a few Boise State games this year (they always seem to be on...) and they didn't really impress me. Sure, they put up a lot of points against national powerhouses like Utah State, but they also give up a lot of points. Against a good defense I don't think they'll look nearly as impressive.

/not jumping on that BS bandwagon
//their field is fugly

vonschiller: You're all forgetting that Pittsburgh is going to beat Cincinnati this weekend and take an automatic bid.

That leaves you with Florida/Alabama loser, Boise, and Cincinnati as your at-larges.

Well, wouldn't that just fark everything up! Even so, you'd still have Boise, Fla/Ala loser, VT, Cincy, and Iowa/Penn State as qualifying. I doubt that Cincy would get a spot over Boise/SEC loser/Big 10.

vonschiller: You're all forgetting that Pittsburgh is going to beat Cincinnati this weekend and take an automatic bid.

That leaves you with Florida/Alabama loser, Boise, and Cincinnati as your at-larges.

*snort*

Pitt? The team that lost to those powerhouses NC State (5-7) and West Virginia (unranked at 8-3)?

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it depends on which Pitt team shows up Saturday. Cincy has been consistently good excellent all season.

Twonk: vonschiller: You're all forgetting that Pittsburgh is going to beat Cincinnati this weekend and take an automatic bid.

That leaves you with Florida/Alabama loser, Boise, and Cincinnati as your at-larges.

*snort*

Pitt? The team that lost to those powerhouses NC State (5-7) and West Virginia (unranked at 8-3) (8-3, now barely in the top 25)?

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it depends on which Pitt team shows up Saturday. Cincy has been consistently good excellent all season.

FTFM; my bad. WVU was unranked going into the Pitt game. Still, Pitt should have beaten them but did not.

Anyone who talks about ratings when trying to decide what will make a good football game should be immediately shot. Out of a cannon. Into the Pacific Ocean. That is all.

penguin31: Anyone who talks about ratings when trying to decide what will make a good football game should be immediately shot. Out of a cannon. Into the Pacific Ocean. That is all.

Well to be fair, the bowls probably don't care as much about a "good football game" as much as they care about how much money they can make from the two schools' fanbases.