Glad they take their jobs seriously...ya know, the whole taking an oath to serve and protect thing.

Fire them all. Job one is protecting the people.

Blues_X: ecmoRandomNumbers: but nobody wants to fire a cop for being a douchebag.


I do. Let me sign the paperwork. Sheriff Joe can drive all the way here and cry me a river.

Shotgun!

Here's the thing - I don't have a shred of pity for the people in MSCO. Why? Fuhrer Joe is elected. He's been re-elected. These folks are getting exactly what they deserved, sad to say.

ToxicMunkee: Sabyen91: ecmoRandomNumbers: Sabyen91: How much power does this asshole Arpaio have?

Way too much. Arizona only has 15 counties, and each one has a sheriff's department. They're expensive and over-funded. Municipal police departments could take care of the sheriffs' "workload," but we're stuck with a lot of tradition here. Arpaio's job shouldn't even exist because we have so many overlapping jurisdictions here as it is.

It really seems to me, an outsider, that he acts like he has more power than a Sheriff and nobody calls him on it. Even this time the judge really wasn't calling Joe out.

He's like King of Arizona or something.

$50 says that ends up being the name of the movie Hollywood will make out of this.

CruiserTwelve: Hopefully people will realize what a poor example this asshole is setting for his entire department and he won't get re-elected. This entire incident shows what poor leadership can do for an organization. When your head guy thinks he's above the law, it should be no surprise that everyone below him thinks the same way.

It's not just his department he's representing.

One cop, anywhere, represents all cops, everywhere.

If everyone hates him so much why do they keep electing him?

netweavr: CruiserTwelve: Hopefully people will realize what a poor example this asshole is setting for his entire department and he won't get re-elected. This entire incident shows what poor leadership can do for an organization. When your head guy thinks he's above the law, it should be no surprise that everyone below him thinks the same way.

It's not just his department he's representing.

One cop, anywhere, represents all cops, everywhere.

OMG - That means Steven Segal now represents all cops everywhere.

Then the people voting for him are getting the service that they requested/deserve.

CruiserTwelve: Hopefully people will realize what a poor example this asshole is setting for his entire department and he won't get re-elected. This entire incident shows what poor leadership can do for an organization. When your head guy thinks he's above the law, it should be no surprise that everyone below him thinks the same way.

While I wish this were the case, there's a sufficiently large segment of the population in Maricopa County (and much of the rest of the country) who simply love the idea of a law enforcement chief who's not bound by such silly and restrictive notions as "following the goddman law", as long as said officer isn't targeting them or their families. A great many people simply don't give a rat's ass about the rule of law as long as you've got a "tough on crimeMexicans" image.

If anything, this will probably make him even more popular with a majority of the local voting population.

drsewell: If everyone hates him so much why do they keep electing him?

Exactly. what_now: I don't know if gets much worse than forcing a woman to give birth with her hands and feet in shackles. What was this master criminal in jail for?

Shoplifting.

She had over $1000 in fines for driving without a license. She was arrested while driving without a license. That's a helluva lot more serious than shoplifting. She was here illegally, which doesn't help.

That being said, shackling a woman giving birth is horrendous. What's she going to do, run away?

Weaver95: drsewell: Then the people voting for him are getting the service that they requested/deserve.

that said - Sheriff Joe still has to obey the law. He doesn't have to like it...but he's gotta follow it.

Agreed.

Were we supposed to do the whole name calling thing before this? I hate to get things out of order.

GraysonAC: drsewell: If everyone hates him so much why do they keep electing him?

Exactly. what_now: I don't know if gets much worse than forcing a woman to give birth with her hands and feet in shackles. What was this master criminal in jail for?

Shoplifting.

She had over $1000 in fines for driving without a license. She was arrested while driving without a license. That's a helluva lot more serious than shoplifting. She was here illegally, which doesn't help.

That being said, shackling a woman giving birth is horrendous. What's she going to do, run away?

Escaped felon on the loose. Last seen dragging a baby. Film at 11.

what_now: Weaver95: And for the record, I did say that Joe wasn't going to be happy he was forced to back down on the contempt of court citation. He's going to continue to escalate until he proves he's in charge. It just seems to fit his personality - he can't stand appearing 'weak', and it's even worse than usual since this thing is now being watched by the national press.

So he'll torture a few more brown people than normal this week? I don't know if gets much worse than forcing a woman to give birth with her hands and feet in shackles. What was this master criminal in jail for?

Shoplifting.

FARKING ANCHOR BABY!

In all seriousness though, it's ridiculous to restrain a woman giving birth. What is she going to do? Bleed on them?

drsewell: netweavr: CruiserTwelve: Hopefully people will realize what a poor example this asshole is setting for his entire department and he won't get re-elected. This entire incident shows what poor leadership can do for an organization. When your head guy thinks he's above the law, it should be no surprise that everyone below him thinks the same way.

It's not just his department he's representing.

One cop, anywhere, represents all cops, everywhere.

OMG - That means Steven Segal now represents all cops everywhere.

Is he a cop now? I know Shaq is but I wasn't aware Segal went that route.

drsewell: If everyone hates him so much why do they keep electing him?

Because Sheriff Joe will investigate anyone who stands up to him. Even if you're clean, he'll attack you with any wild accusation that someone gives him. His last opponent had a mother who was extremely mentally ill. When this guy was in high school, the mother accused him of raping her. The investigation determined that she was prone to wild statements and really wasn't functioning in what most of us would consider reality. No charges and the guy eventually became a police officer in another jurisdiction.

When he ran against Joe, he was accused of being a literal mother farker. After the ads ran for a month or so, Joe apologized and said that an independent group that produced the ads had gone too far. After the damage was done, IOW. During that election, his opponent had a flyer made (by a freelance artist) that showed him standing in front of a police car. Arpaio had the freelance artist areested, charged with multiple felonies and seized the woman's computers. Even if the charges get dismissed, she's out her means of livelihood.

And if he investigates his opponents this hard, you know he investigates his allies just as much. All he has to do is find someone who doesn't like you much and he's got enough dirt on you to make life a living nightmare.

Combine that with a lot of older and low information voters who don't even live in Phoenix for half the year or more. My Grandmother lives in Arizona from October through April or so, and she thinks Arpaio is the cat's ass. Mostly because she feels that the Phoenix area is too ethnic. Of course, the last time I asked her how she could tell they were illegal, and even so, what harm they were doing, her responses were that "she just knows" and "I can feel them looking at me at the store".

So the politicians and the money guys either support Joe or at best stay neutral out of fear, and the old people return to Sun City just in time to see ads about Joe's opponents being rapists. It means that along with the advantage of name recognition and incumbency, he has a huge advantage come election time.

netweavr:
Is he a cop now? I know Shaq is but I wasn't aware Segal went that route.

Yup (new window). He better hit people with billard balls wrapped in a hanky on this show, too.

House of Tards: netweavr:
Is he a cop now? I know Shaq is but I wasn't aware Segal went that route.

Yup (new window). He better hit people with billard balls wrapped in a hanky on this show, too.

Hmm, you learn something new everyday.

This is just one more reason to avoid Arizona entirely.