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(MSNBC)   Man sues because of SPAM email. Uses federal SPAM fax precedent as basis and wins   (msnbc.com) divider line 211
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2003-03-26 07:07:37 PM  
There's been a few cases of this. It's not really going to do any good until there's a class action suit, though. That'll really jack up the total and hurt these companies.
 
2003-03-26 07:14:55 PM  
If there was just a few major sources of spam, a class-action suit would work. But because anybody with access can create spam, it may be a more refined solution including legislation, technical means to identify spam generators, and penalties for spamming.

Spam spam spam spam
Lovely Spam, wonderful Spam...
 
2003-03-26 07:17:51 PM  
The government needs to take action on these companies - the FTC especially needs to do more. Hit them for millions of dollars, not 500 dollars.
 
2003-03-26 08:31:14 PM  
Unfortunately laws aren't going to stop spam. Most of the spam that gets blocked by the filters I manage comes from Asia (mainly Korea and China) and Russia, plus a fair amount from Carribean and South American mail servers.

Most spam originating in the U.S. comes from people operating insecure mail servers that allow relaying. I've had to get on several of my customers for having open-relays on their mail servers.

Checking the logs, yesterday we blocked 47.7 gigabytes (not bits) worth of junk mail destined for just one domain. That's a lot of bandwidth going to a single domain. We host a few hundred domains but I'm not doing the math to add up the total amount of spam blocked.

screencap of basic spamlog

Here's the law I would vote for: If you operate a mail server that has an open relay and it is used to send out spam, you have 10 days to close the relay from the date of discovery or face a fine of, let's say $750 per gigabyte until the relay is closed. That money will go to your ISP to cover your farking bandwidth costs.

By the way, the ISP I work for has a policy of one warning and 24 hours to either close the open relay or take the server off line. After that, we kill your connection until the problem is fixed. It's a bit harsh, but in Ohio the ISP can be held responsible for customers who send out spam.

/steps down from soapbox
 
2003-03-26 08:40:59 PM  
Oh yeah, if you administer a mail server and want incredible spam and virus filtering, plus some great email management tools, check out Postini.

I don't normally plug companies, but these guys have made my job a thousand times easier. Gives me more time to tool around on Fark during the day.
 
2003-03-26 10:56:01 PM  
why 'SPAM'?
why not 'spam'?
 
2003-03-26 10:57:24 PM  
SPAM suggests that the letters stand for something...
 
2003-03-26 10:59:43 PM  
Simply
Put
A
Message ?

Sending
Pr0n,
All
Men?
 
2003-03-26 10:59:57 PM  
S uculant
P rizes
A nd
M oney
 
2003-03-26 11:00:37 PM  
I'll have to find my old hotmail password. Was getting 500-700 emails every week.
 
2003-03-26 11:01:45 PM  
S top
P op
A nd
M ole

i dunno you think of something better but it does fit... kinda
 
Kat [TotalFark]
2003-03-26 11:01:49 PM  
Ku_No_Ichi, it's because you can't say "SPAM" calmly. Actually, it probably should read "spam," cause doesn't the "meat" product SPAM go in all capitals?

I mean, not that someone would confuse it...not any normal person at least--but people WERE asking last year if AI stood for A1 steak sauce...
 
2003-03-26 11:02:54 PM  
Sex-organ enhancement and
Pornographic/Pyramid Scheme
Advertising
Mail
 
Kat [TotalFark]
2003-03-26 11:03:32 PM  
/me shudders at the thought of a mol of SPAM. E-mail or "meat" product, they're both scary.
 
2003-03-26 11:03:33 PM  
Super
Pestery
Annoying
Mail
 
2003-03-26 11:04:24 PM  
Sexually
Prolific
Anus
Monkey
 
2003-03-26 11:04:32 PM  
Spiced
Pork
And ha
M
 
2003-03-26 11:05:33 PM  
My penis is 3 to 6 inches longer thanks to a helpful spam mail.
 
2003-03-26 11:05:35 PM  
Kick ass... I must get over 200 spam messages a week on my main e-mail account. I don't even care about the money if I can just put a stop to the constant flood of get rich quick schemes and some girl who keeps wanting me to watch her and her naughty school girl friends do each other.
 
2003-03-26 11:06:48 PM  
Spidey
Porks
Aunt
May
 
2003-03-26 11:07:44 PM  
Super
Prestigious
Ass
Mail
 
2003-03-26 11:08:27 PM  
Self Promotional Advertisement Mail. Nothing wrong with the meat version, ghetto steak is good as a mothafarker.
 
2003-03-26 11:09:49 PM  
Anybody getting a ton of yahoo mail account spam?

I started forwarding each and every one of them to su­pport­[nospam-﹫-backwards]ooh­ay*co­m and they actually replied to me, they said they were shutting the account down. IF everyone did this, they might get the idea of looking at who is doing what with there accounts.
 
2003-03-26 11:10:34 PM  
Super-sized
Pelotas
Are
Mine
 
2003-03-26 11:11:38 PM  
Solo
Porked
Anally
Montha
 
2003-03-26 11:12:24 PM  
Stop
Please
Attacking
Me
 
2003-03-26 11:13:25 PM  
Slapping
Penis
All
Mornin'
 
2003-03-26 11:13:27 PM  
LOL
GoatBoy
You said it better than I was about to...

I would be Thrilled to get in on a class action suite against these wanks.
 
2003-03-26 11:15:10 PM  
Lipo
Checking the logs, yesterday we blocked 47.7 gigabytes (not bits) worth of junk mail destined for just one domain.

uh.. Don't you mean 45.50MB?
 
2003-03-26 11:15:22 PM  
Slice o'
Pie
Ala
Mode

Saddam
Playfully
Aroused
Moore
 
2003-03-26 11:16:16 PM  
Rain-Monkey
Spam spam spam spam
Lovely Spam, wonderful Spam...

Bloody vikings.
 
2003-03-26 11:16:45 PM  
SweaterGirl
Purrs
Around
Me
 
2003-03-26 11:17:14 PM  
OoOoh! This thread got fun while I was working! Let me go put my witty cap on!
 
2003-03-26 11:19:13 PM  
So
Pretty
Are
Monkeys
 
2003-03-26 11:19:25 PM  
PsychosisGoneCrazy!
I'm expecting great things from you here..
 
2003-03-26 11:19:41 PM  
So,
Porn
Action
Much?
 
2003-03-26 11:19:47 PM  
Some
Penis Depositories
Are
Multiple

for Ku-No-Ichi
 
2003-03-26 11:20:51 PM  
Sensei
Practices
Ancient
Martial Arts
 
2003-03-26 11:21:07 PM  
There are several ways to minimize the amount of SPAM you receive: keep an account for junk mail and only use it for signing up for contests or other BS that you know is going to add your account to a list - which will likely end up in the hands of SPAMMERS. Also, don't post your real address on web pages since web bots scour the net and will add you to a list. Another trick some of these scumbags use is that if you click on their link at the bottom of the message to be removed from their list, they know this is an active account and will send you even more crap.
 
2003-03-26 11:21:12 PM  
Sasquatch
Poses
Acquired in our
Mail
 
2003-03-26 11:21:44 PM  
Mods - Is it possible to enable voting post-posting? Some of these are good.
 
2003-03-26 11:22:03 PM  
Mystic_fool Many thanks for you kind lol. The scary thing is, before I got the spam mail offering to enlarge my penis, I was a woman.
 
2003-03-26 11:22:19 PM  
Yeah, this should be good, Ku_No_Ichi. Hmm...

Strange
People
Are
My friends
 
2003-03-26 11:23:07 PM  
Funny, the sears lady points out that part of the wording hinges on the term modem, it maybe a bad thing(TM) that the cable folks decided to continue the usage of Modem into the Cable era :) If you can apply modem to a cable gateway, could it not be applied to say a fiber gateway ? they perform the same function :)

Gotta love small claims court
 
2003-03-26 11:23:19 PM  
Someone
Please
Arrest
Me

Sinister
People
Are
Mean

Seashells
Play
Aortic
Music
 
2003-03-26 11:24:11 PM  
Soviet Russia
Porn
Ads
Mail you!
 
2003-03-26 11:24:30 PM  
Simply
Put,
Annoying
Missives.
 
2003-03-26 11:24:46 PM  
 
2003-03-26 11:25:18 PM  
Some
Posters
Are
Moronic

-
 
2003-03-26 11:25:51 PM  
GoatBoy
So true. Before SPAM, I couldn't please my woman.
 
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