Yes, it's a response to fear, and oddly enough, it was the Bush Administration's own commissioned report that found that the militia movement was on the rise and a growing danger. You might remember that one, that was poo-pooed about being silly, up until some old bugger decided to go and shoot some folks.

Trade on fear, and this is what you get. Nice going folks. You KEEP scaring folks, and they react, and then some fella gets the idea to get those folks together and give them a purpose and an outlet.

Otherwise, they just wind up like this:

oddly enough, there's an element of truth to that allegation - esp if you consider the war on drugs legislation and the activities of some of our DEA folks. They get the wrong address and your ass is beat down and in a jail cell for a while until they figure out they f*cked up. And there's nothing you can do about it either - they kill your dog, smash your house down, beat up your wife or kid(s) and it's 'oh too bad, we got the address wrong - suck it up sunshine, it's for the kids/drugs is bad'.

Now i'm not saying we're gonna roll up to the hood and start tossing political dissidents into gitmo any time soon, but we could do with a bit of restraint on some of our more zealous law and order gun bunnies.

I'm gonna have to go with Weaver95 on this.

/Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
//Sure I'm paranoid, but am I paranoid enough?

Such attacks are a vent for racial anxiety and outrage

um, what is racial anxiety??
the idea that a black man is getting paid more than you?
that the black man is sleeping with your white daughter?

the only good thing about these nuts, is that they can never keep their mouths shut. you can always get them going.

I am curious about another thing. these "the government is out to get us nuts" ... they pretty much feel that all our rights have been taken away already or will be taken soon. right?

so they are in favor of legalizing drugs, gambling and prostituion, right? all those things were legal when our country was founded.

/same goes for abortion
/yah, didnt think so

I cry myself to sleep everynight when I think of all the people I've known who have disappeared over the years or been in jail for decades over drug usage.

The number is just staggering.

"Just curious, what is the number?"

Now that you mention it...it's zero.

Tarkus: I'm gonna have to go with Weaver95 on this.

/Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
//Sure I'm paranoid, but am I paranoid enough?

Yeah, what's up with that? I have to agree too. Did he take his meds this morning?

/End the war on drugs common sense.

Page B: the government has F-22s and shiat. I'm pretty sure militias ceased to be relevant sometime around 1783.

Good point. Highly mobile, faceless, extremists with nothing but small arms and improvised devices could never be a problem.

Not a fan of the wing nuts, but to underestimate the threat potential of such a groups is silly.

MoonPirate: Page B: the government has F-22s and shiat. I'm pretty sure militias ceased to be relevant sometime around 1783.

Good point. Highly mobile, faceless, extremists with nothing but small arms and improvised devices could never be a problem.

Not a fan of the wing nuts, but to underestimate the threat potential of such a groups is silly.

Aww... Leave 'em alone. They think the government is going to be there to keep 'em in line.

thenateman: Markoff_Cheney

thenateman: The article is an interview with some nut in Wisconsin.


He's in Alaska, unfortunately.


What kind of whack job gets run out of wisconsin to alaska? Clearly mainstream conservative thought shared by everyone who ever deigns to be critical of Obama.

You *really* need to read the article. You're batting .000 right now.

After 9/11 that did happen to people who made the mistake of being Muslim and overstaying their student visa.

Luckily, though, I heard from them again.